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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 08:37 PM
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Poll question: Poll: Okay, who's going down first?
Cast your vote!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:04 PM
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1. George Tenet
I changed my mind after I clicked on other, but he's someone talked about as a possible fall guy. But as Joe Conason pointed out on Salon.com, Tenet may not be so easy to get rid of because of what he knows.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:47 PM
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2. I think it's hilarious that OBL and SH get 0 votes....Wanted dead or alive
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:21 PM
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4. Ooooh, that's true.
Can I change my vote?

Pshaw.

Eloriel
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:34 PM
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9. agreed...
Yea, I think Tenet is gonna take the fall...
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:54 PM
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3. Rummy's going to get the axe...
Now that Franks retired after being offered Chief Of Staff, and they had to get a retiree to come back; Rummy's on the skids. No one in the Army wants to work for the creep. Watch closely, he's out to dry within a month.

As an added bonus, I'll go with Rice after that, Cheney...then bush.

It will be nice to say: "buh-bye" to each and every one of them.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:23 PM
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5. I think Tony Blair
This phony evidence story will get its biggest legs over seas and will take down Tony first.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:25 PM
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6. I look for Unca Dick to go first.
It will be stated as being for "health reasons" but he's treading water right now with the Sierra Club case as well as the stink about Niger and his involvement in it. His fingerprints all over the Haliburton contracts make him even more vulnerable.

Laura
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:30 PM
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7. Wolowitz?
:7
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 04:43 AM
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11. Typo. Thought I fixed it. Wolfowitz.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:31 PM
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8. Voted for Bush
Only because that is who I really really really want to see go down. Just wishful thinking, not based in reality.

MzPip
:dem:
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:58 PM
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10. You forgot to include a "no one"
It is my firm conviction...that none of the people you have listed will so much as get their hands slapped. Just ain't gonna happen. Not unless there is rioting in the streets....and what's the likelihood of that?

In any case, the mission has been accomplished. Mr. Bushes corporate sponsors have been handed Iraq. The US government has been destroyed. The US electoral process has been irreparably polluted. The media monopolized.

It's sort of like having unprotected sex with a person who doesn't tell you he or she has HIV/AIDS or better yet, one who tells you that they don't have HIV/AIDS, knowing full well that they do. After you figure out what has happened...it's to fucking late. You can scream and cry all you want. You can sue them, you can have them thrown in jail....the fact remains however that you have yourself a case of the gift that keeps on giving....and your gonna die because of it.

The country has been infected....and most of its population are to stupid to know it and a good majority of those who do, are to stupid to care.

RC
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 05:10 AM
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13. But now they can give the people their "democracy" again
The corporations have done enough raping and pillaging for a while. No need to push the paupers to the point of a riot. Throw a few boys out of the WH and on we go until they need something else from the phony democracy.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 06:46 AM
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16. Another vote for "None of the above"
By the time that the temperature has risen high enough to start
cooking someone - Blair is on the hottest gas at the moment - there
will be another "terrorist" incident. I would put money on it.

Nihil
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 05:08 AM
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12. Cheney
Bush put him in charge of the Domestic Counterterrorism in March of 2001. 9/11, forged uranium documents, halliburton, energy commission; the guy's fingerprints are all over everything. I also recall reading an article that said Rumsfeld might retire this fall, so he could go soon too. Bush probably won't go until we vote the sob out. Condi and Powell won't go unless it's totally voluntary, too messy for minority voters. I don't see Tenet taking the fall for this, he'd have done it already it seems.

Or, we get all shook up about Laci Peterson again.
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Isome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 05:23 AM
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14. It's gotta be Blair!
I saw a clip of Blair in Parliment and the other members were all over him like maggots on roadkill.

After that, I wouldn't be surprised to see Powell or Rice "resigning".
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 05:29 AM
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15. I see Blair surviving
I have absolutely nothing to back that up. Just a feeling.

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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 07:10 AM
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17. Maybe pertUK or another UK friend can help me, but
I think the British parliamentary system is more flexible than ours.
Don't know the exact nutz & boltz, but Blair can get a no confidence vote and new elections will be called for and he's out.
We are not that flexible. * either gets impeached (or resigns, neither one likely) or serves out his term.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 07:48 AM
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21. Not necessarily.
A general election is held when parliament is dissolved by the
Queen on the advice of the Prime Minister of the day - i.e., the
current PM chooses when and the monarch says "make it so" - thus
giving the incumbent a useful advantage. It must be held every
five years at least unless "exceptionally extended" - as was the
case for WWI and WWII but I couldn't find any definition of how
exceptional is "exceptional".

It is only a *convention* (= established practice, not law!) that
if a government is defeated in the House of Commons on a vote of
(no) confidence that a general election will follow. It would
be an interesting situation if Tony just stuck up two fingers to
the electorate (again) and ignored the result.

Note that, unlike impeachment, a no-confidence vote can only lead
to an election, not a prosecution. In other words, it hits the
birdcage and forces them to twitter around for a while before
setting back onto the same perch again (in most cases).

James Callaghan was the last person to suffer this back in 1979.
The "no confidence" vote held on 28 March succeeded (by 311 votes
to 310!), parliament was dissolved on 7th April and the election
was held on 3rd May - ushering in the Thatcher era.

The chance of that happening now are just about zero: Callaghan
had only hung onto power that long by forming a pact with the Liberals
and the Conservative opposition was significant and strong. Blair
has a large majority and there is no opposition from any other party.

Nihil
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 07:11 AM
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18. But then there's this
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 07:32 AM
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19. I vote Blair because of how Parliament works
The people of Great Britain didn't elect Blair, they elected the Labour Party. The party can take Blair down and it looks like that is what they want to do.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 07:37 AM
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20. I voted "other"
CIA Director will take the fall on Bush's uranium lie. Rice just said the CIA approved the information.
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