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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:44 AM
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SwiftVets against John Kerry.
I heard last on Scarborough Country that only one person in the SwiftVets against John Kerry actually served with him. Is this true?
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:48 AM
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1. enough of this crap.... it's bogus and plenty of threads on this
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:00 AM
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8. Appears some people want to keep the Swift Boat story on the top
As soon as a thread drops to the second page, someone all of a sudden decides he has to ask a very urgent question which of course needs a whole new thread.
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:21 AM
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14. I apologize for the inconvenience.
This was the first time I have heard this. So, I thought, what better place to find out more about this then here on DU. Believe me, this was not intentional! I did not bring this topic up because I saw it was posted a few threads ago. This my first opportunity to post a question and I asked it. I am very grateful for everyone who replied, because it is adding to my knowledge of this whole political process.

So, to close. Again, I am truly sorry for inconveniencing anyone who has seen this thread topic posted a few time before, I am just trying to get all of the information I can and pass it on to the uninformed people I know.

Thanks!
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TiredTexan Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:48 AM
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2. None of them served with him.
The one they always claim served with him, served on the same boat, but, wait for it.............


NOT AT THE SAME TIME AS KERRY!

These people are amazing.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:48 AM
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3. Yes....Gardner is his name I think....
All the others just happened to be Swift Vets in the same war in the same country but at different times and on different boats. So of course they are perfectly qualified to judge him as a person and his service.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:38 AM
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19. Some are skippers from swift boats who did serve at the same time
as Kerry. But Doug Brinkley interviewed all or most of those guys last year for Kerry's bio and I don't believe they had any such complaints then. Of course that was before O'Neill started throwing money around.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:57 AM
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4. I just posted the Nixon Tapes "John O'Neill" segments...
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:02 AM
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9. Okay. John O'Neill is the one who wrote the book I saw last night.
This is a shame! How they can blatantly lie like this, and get away with it. Someone should call these people out and question their specific dealings with John Kerry. They should recite specific instances and have John Kerry, if he has time, rebut some of those dealings.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 10:54 AM
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22. I don't believe Doro Bush Koch is married to
Edited on Thu Aug-05-04 10:56 AM by Kerryfan
Koch Industries Koch.

http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/ContributorsAndPaybacks/pioneer_profile.cfm?pioneer_ID=99


I know this is off topic but thought I would point this out, saw on your site.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:57 AM
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5. The leader of SVAJK never served with Kerry
he replaced him. He has NO first hand knowledge of anything.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:59 AM
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6. Don't know but...
The men who stood with him at the convention were impressive to me. I watched on cspan so I don't know if other stations showed this part of the convention. I read that one of his crew said he'd follow him to hell if JK asked him to.
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vickie Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 07:59 AM
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7. What was Scarborough's response to this sanctimonious filth?
Did he ferret out the truth (yeah, o.k., I know) or did he aid and abet the filthy liars?

Please, I'd love to know.

Vickie Carter
Redondo Beach, CA
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:12 AM
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12. I caught the tail-end but, I was surprised.
From what I saw, Scarborough was not making a big issue out of it. He seem to be caught off-guard. This was most neutral I have ever seen him.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:05 AM
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10. is there any way we can get an investigation started on...
Edited on Thu Aug-05-04 08:06 AM by madmom
these idjuts? maybe they are the ones who did all these things that Kerry was protesting when he came back from the war, and they don,t want to be found out. (collecting ears, scalps,burn villages, rape, etc. can this be checked?)Maybe if we just got vocal about the possibility that they could be the ones who did this they will go away and not come back.
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Alpha Wolf Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:11 AM
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11. The one thing that will shut these guys up is...
if Kerry finally releases all of his military records. Then his true heroism will be known. He has vowed to on several occasions, but I keep running across stories that only partial records were released to date. Has anyone else been following up on this? What's the hold up?
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:35 AM
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18. I believe all the medical records pertinent to these
purple hearts are on his website. Does that mean we will see the intimate details of other trips to the dentist by Bush ?
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TryingToWarnYou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:39 AM
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20. Heres a shitload of records... I dont know what else they want...
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gttim Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:16 AM
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13. Some info
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:32 AM
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17. That is great, they are 527. Then our 527s should be able to respond.
I was worried that Kerry would have to use his 75 million to respond to this filth, but that shouldn't be necessary.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 09:16 AM
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21. Disinfopedia doesn't talk about who funds them....
Check out the political contributions of Bob Perry, the guy who gave then $100,000 of the ~$160,000 they've raised so far.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/527/search.aspx?act=com&orgid=707
http://www.publicintegrity.org/527/search.aspx?act=con&sec=indprof&orgid=806

And here's a good article from the Dallas Observer:
http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2004-07-29/feature.html

Perry and Tom Delay are like peanut butter and jelly.



Sid

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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:27 AM
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15. I have an Idea
Lets write Scarborough!..........Ask him to ask questions of this John..like.Nixon hack to get Kerry.the law firm he is in.His actions in the bush/McCain race.if members of this group are the old members of the other group against McCain.
Also I plan on saying that lately he has shown some courage in asking questions about the bush administration.......and I heard him at the Democratic Convention.he was out raged that Kerry had to rush through his speech because of the network timer clock running....he was down right irate...
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 08:29 AM
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16. Roy Hoffman, who is listed first on their organizational chart,
was the Capt who headed Operation Sealords. He was bloodthirsty, bucking for Admiral and he didn't appreciate Kerry's letting others know what he thought about him. Some of these other swift boat skippers who are now saying Kerry is unfit expressed the same sentiments as Kerry at the time and even as recently as last year, to Doug Brinkley when he interviewed them for "Tour of Duty".

I hope Brinkley comes forward with what he was told last year.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-04 12:42 PM
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23. Consolidating threads
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