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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:07 PM
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The Republican Capital of the U.S.?
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 07:08 PM by midwayer
If one had to guess..


Where would you think it is located?

I think I know and they are in DEEP THOUGHT and thinking

They are pissed because they have donated all their money

and beginning to see the JFK bumper stickers come out of the grassroots movement and they are starting to get pissed.

Thoughts

Serious question

where? if you had to guess?

1st
2nd
3rd

?????????

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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:08 PM
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1. Naples, FL?
The Heart of Darkness...
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:14 PM
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9. Jan Micheal
Are you cheating? LOL

let see how the poll comes in
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:26 PM
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16. EEEEK! MY hometown.....
Did ya have to rub it in?

We do have a great group of rabble-rousing protesters here though. We had senior citizens with walkers protesting Cheney when he came to town.
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:35 PM
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20. Were you there? At the Hyatt Coconut?
;) I wasn't there but I'm a tradesman who knows exactly where you are talking about.

I have customers in THE BROOKS

Welcome!
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:37 PM
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37. You took the words out of my mouth!
Just do a fundrace.org search for zip code 34102. I saw 3 Kerry bumper stickers today and that doesn't include the one on my car :).
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:08 PM
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2. i'm going to guess
it's either San Diego or Orange county.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:10 PM
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3. The Center of the GOP Universe ....
Houston ....

Think Energy ...

Think Oil ...

Think legalized fraud and windfall profit ...
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:10 PM
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4. Idaho
Mormons in the south and Neo-Nazis in the north (Mark Fuhrman moved to Sand Point for a reason, ya know)
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:22 PM
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11. This is interesting
I want to learn about every state and region
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:10 PM
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5. Sugarland,Texas
No doubt about it.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:12 PM
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6. Bingo: Sugarland, Texas
With Houston being a second close. Salt Lake City is pretty Republican, but they have a Democratic mayor. Utah went for Bush in 2000 almost 3 to 1
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Comrade_Goldstein Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:16 PM
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10. Salt Lake City's not that bad
Granted it's not the most liberal city, but I was surprised how Democratic it is. Democratic mayor, hell in the recent mayoral election the only two people running were Democrats. It's definitely much better than the rest of the state.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:00 PM
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28. Provo, Utah is hell on earth
Full of self-righteous Utah Mormons...a different breed from Mormons that have to integrate into other areas of the country.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:45 PM
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24. Not Houston -- no urban area
I'll vote for Sugarland, though, just because of Tom Delay.
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lagniappe Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:02 PM
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29. Sugar Land through Pearland to Pasadena.
It would be tough to find a more conservative part of the country.
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Jayster84 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:12 PM
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7. Greater Cincinnati
I think I'm the only democrat here.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 08:08 AM
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56. Hi Jayster84!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Comrade_Goldstein Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:13 PM
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8. Texas
Just the entire state, exemplifies all Republican characteristics, evil, religiously insane, corporate greed, exploitation of all living things, division between the haves and have nots, and environmental destruction (no offense to Texan DUers, I know it's the Republicans who give Texas its bad qualities). In terms of cities which are particularly bad, Bakersfield, the gateway to hell (no apologies to anyone who has the misfortune of living there. It makes Thousand Oaks look like a great liberal bastion).
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:24 PM
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13. Texans is something like 44% independent, 33% Republican, and 21% Dem
Houston is pretty split, not Republican. They have a Democratic mayor.

Texas is not as bad as many other places. The most solidly Republican states in the country are in the Great Plains area - Utah, Idaho, Wyoming. Those are Republican states and will stay that way barring a ideological realignment of the parties.

I live in Texas, and Northern Texas minus heavy minority district is extremely Republican. Eastern (a special house race here was surprisingly close) and Western Texas is very conservative. Southern Texas, however, is where you will find a lot of Democrats. Remember, we are 16-16 in the congressional delegation, and we have 74 of 150 reps in the Texas House. Bushie and Perry (whom even the Repubs hate) have been the only two Republican governors since Bill Clements was elected in 1978. And, Gore won 45% of the vote here in 2000. So yes, it leans Republican, but we have a very large Democratic minority, if only because the state is so huge with many cultural parts.
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Comrade_Goldstein Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:29 PM
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17. maybe I was a little harsh
But it's just the Republicans there exemplify the worst parts of conservative ideology all combined into one. Maybe it's the fact that it gave us the idiot in chief.
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:50 PM
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26. Ummmmm....first of all....
...it's the great state of Florida that gave us our current idiot in chief...and he wasn't even born in Texas. (he was born in Connecticut)
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 08:22 AM
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59. Houston's mayor is a Democrat & Sheila Jackson Lee
is my representative.

And Texas is not guilty of "giving" the idiot to the country--enough people in other states voted for him to put him within stealing distance of the office.

California is a great state, but "gave" us Presidents Nixon & Reagan. Nobody's perfect.

By the way--where are you from? Your profile omits that detail.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:29 PM
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18. It's gotta be a Repub area of Texas though.They're the death penalty state
Terrible schools, air pollution, more kids in poverty than anyplace else.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:22 PM
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12. Fresno
I win. Where's my trophy?
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:26 PM
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15. Can you tell me what is happening in D.C.?
How much much money will be trickling down to micro business from Defence contractors?

Oh!...is that what that stands for ? DC??????

Defense Contractors?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:15 PM
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50. Den Of Corruption...always Has Always Will n/t
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:25 PM
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14. The entire state of Kansas,
which makes even us Texans pissed.
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:30 PM
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19. What happened to Kansas?
LOL ;)
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:39 PM
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21. Southwest Ohio.,..suburbs of Cincy & Dayton
...a real GOP valhalla.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:41 PM
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22. Weed , Califorina
I don't know where to look for the stats .
But I bet there are more repukes per capita
there than in other places . I could be wrong
but I doubt it .
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:44 PM
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23. All of Idaho
Bunch of militia gun nuts and hard-core RWers.
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:45 PM
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25. Well...the reason I ask
and it would be great to get a feel for the nation as a whole.

I live in what is considered a Republican stronghold with some SERIOUS bucks.

Marco Island to Ft. Meyers NOT many bumper stickers professing thier party or choice right now.
VERY VERY few

BUT, me thinks they are stewing, thinking, burning

waiting to see where the crowd will go

after dumping thier money into the PUG party

they had better hope thier boss has a silver bullet

cause he's gonna need one

the cowards will follow the flow and the money



































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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:00 PM
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27. Las Vegas, Nevada
Although Las Vegas attracts tourists from everywhere, who probably hold a variety of political views, the locals who reside in Las Vegas are very conservative. My family owned a small bar far from the Las Vegas strip that was frequented almost totally by Las Vegas locals. They originally came from the south and the midwest for the most part and were EXTREMELY conservative. I've lived in places like Fort Smith, Arkansas; Oklahoma City, Oklahoma; Savannah, Georgia; Colorado Springs, Colorado; and San Antonio, Texas, but I don't think I've ever run into a mass of people who all seemed to fit the description of rednecks as well as the residents of Las Vegas (although Colorado Springs came close).
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:06 PM
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30. Good question
Texas only became Republican recently with the election of Bush as gov in 1994, and their taking the state legislature with Enron money in 2002.


I'd go with Wyoming.

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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:08 PM
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31. Gore carried Las Vegas
:)
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:22 PM
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53. Wyoming has a history of Dem Governors
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:10 PM
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32. Ok...here we go
Blow up all the Arabs....drop the nuke

But then lets define the REAL meaning of the word conservative

can they do it?

No ...they can't do it

they are militant conservative and most likely at least half of them are professed Christians.

Let see now

Militant Conservative Christian, Rednecks who are converging with the Judeo Christian Straussians

Me thinks we might have a little problem here
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:11 PM
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33. LV certainly has more extremists, that's for sure
Art Bell, anyone? My buddy's parents were the co-founders of our local militia, too.

I was liberal when I lived in the South, and I'm liberal here. Latest state-wide Zogby poll has Bush over Kerry by .4 percent -- and I think that's stretching.

Also, we've got the Greenspuns, Clinton's biggest contributors, though the state party until very recently has been in an absolute shambles.

I have high hopes that Nevada will be BLUE in 2004.
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sleepystudent Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:20 PM
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34. This is a stupid question...
but the answer is Washington D.C. We all live in the same country whether you like it or not, so the answer would be D.C. no matter who you are talking about. Obama's speech just last week ring a bell anyone? "We coach Little League in the blue states, have gay friends in the red states..." This kind of divisiveness is just lazily playing into their hands-congratulations, you are thinking like they want you to think and doing what they want you to do.
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:33 PM
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36. Actually you are most likely correct
in stating DC (Defense Contractors) SOON we will be turning DC into Democratic Congressmen.

Divisivness....NO.... just putting out a fun feeler , a thermometer

But..the fact that you correlate the word "they"

I respect your thoughts that much more :)
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:40 PM
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38. Income Inequality in the District of Columbia
The average income of the top fifth of the District’s households —
$186,830 in 1999 — was 31 times higher than the average income of the
bottom fifth of households —$6,126.

http://www.dcfpi.org/7-22-04pov.pdf
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:41 PM
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39. Is Wider than in Any Major U.S. City
forgot to add that part
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sleepystudent Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:57 PM
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44. And your point is?
if anything that proves my point-DC, if you ignore the fact that it is the national capital, is a fairly liberal city. Income inequality, segregation, atrocious schools for minority urban poor, etc. are seemingly intractable problems there. Same as NYC where I live. No place has a monopoly on this. People shouldn't pat themselves on the back for simply living in a blue state.

And as to your attitude that this is all in jest, this isn't divisive, this is to get a pulse of the nation, blah blah blah cakes-it is divisive even if it is in jest as you seem to think and how accurate is this-it's not like DU is some representative sample of the entire nation. It's also a waste of time.
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:02 PM
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47. I am confirming your point my friend
how old are you? just curious

maybe I should have rephrased to "the heart of the discussion."

i.e. the substace of the issue

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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:11 PM
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49. Good lord .... I'm not sure I really understand where you are coming from
maybe you would like to expound some more

thanks
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:17 PM
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51. DC "the national capital, is a fairly liberal city"
convince me

population wise>>>>> I believe

economically ....convince me
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sleepystudent Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:28 PM
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54. first off...
is it possible for you to at least attempt to put your thoughts in one post? it's like you take ten posts to complete a thought.

And how can a city be *economically* liberal? Especially in the United States under a capitalist system? If you base economic liberalism on lack of imcome inequality then I would assume some homogenous suburb would be more "economically liberal" than any city.

Sorry about apparently pissing you off for not playing along.
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:42 PM
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55. ok I give up
you didn't piss me off

I pissed you off

Apparently my attempt to spur some interest in geographical political thoughts within the DU forum albeit in fun, according to you, is not in the best interest of the forum itself.

And yes, there is a political diversity in the classes. Class warfare plays right into the political spectrum IMO

So whatever..I digress from this conversation

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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:59 PM
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45. 36%...ummmm HOUSTON...we have a PROBLEM (eom)
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:43 PM
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40. BUT...at the same time
you missed the jist of the question.
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:46 PM
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42. This is all about geeting a feel for the pulse of the nation (eom)
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:48 PM
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43.  and "getting " one too
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Worthless Teen Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:20 PM
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35. Central VA...greater Richmond area
I will not argue this.
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Dastard Stepchild Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:44 PM
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41. I'd say Michigan...
The UP specifically. Though Oakland County could give it a run for its money. Or maybe DuPage County here in Illinois.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:59 PM
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46. Grand Rapids, Michigan
Rampant Republicanism Run Amok
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Dastard Stepchild Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:08 PM
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48. I was gonna say Holland...
So yeah, I'll give you Grand Rapids. I was recently in the UP, and I was constantly greeted by Bush/Cheney placards, hence my suggestion of the UP.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 08:10 AM
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57. Hi sjbech!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:20 PM
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52. It sure ain't Hawaii, I can tell ya that much..if I had to hazard a guess,
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 09:20 PM by opihimoimoi
it has to be in Texas somewhere
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 08:12 AM
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58. Idaho...Almost the whole damned state n/t
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 08:24 AM
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60. Waukesha County Wisconsin
Big, urban, and rightwing as hell.
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