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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:30 AM
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NYT: Reagan may not be much help to Bush in election
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/07/politics/campaign/07REPU.html?ei=5062&en=2b0daab7e3429b75&ex=1087272000&partner=GOOGLE&pagewanted=print&position=

Even some Democrats said they were concerned that the death of Mr. Reagan would provide a welcome, if perhaps temporary, tonic for a president who had been going through tough political times.

"I've been dreading this every election year for three cycles," said Jim Jordan, Mr. Kerry's former campaign manager. "Bush has totally attached himself to Ronald Reagan. He's going to turn Reagan into his own verifier."

Still, Mr. Kerry's aides said they believed Mr. Reagan's death would be, as a political matter, far in the background by the summer. And Republicans said there were risks in too conspicuously invoking Mr. Reagan as part of Mr. Bush's campaign.

Advisers to Mr. Bush said they had not determined how prominently Mr. Bush should identify his presidency with Mr. Reagan, whether Mr. Reagan's image should be incorporated in Mr. Bush's advertisements and whether Nancy Reagan might appear on Mr. Bush's behalf in the fall.

Some Republicans said the images of a forceful Mr. Reagan giving dramatic speeches on television provided a less-than-welcome contrast with Mr. Bush's own appearances these days, and that it was not in Mr. Bush's interest to encourage such comparisons. That concern was illustrated on Sunday, one Republican said, by televised images of Mr. Reagan's riveting speech in Normandy commemorating D-Day in 1984, followed by Mr. Bush's address at a similar ceremony on Sunday.

"Reagan showed what high stature that a president can have — and my fear is that Bush will look diminished by comparison," said one Republican sympathetic to Mr. Bush, who did not want to be quoted by name criticizing the president.

Another senior Republican expressed concern that by identifying too closely with Mr. Reagan, Mr. Bush risked running a campaign that looked to the past, which this adviser described as a recipe for a loss.


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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:48 AM
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1. kick
:kick:

And I thougth a Reagan-related thread wouldn't drop off the page.

Silly me.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:49 AM
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2. Sounds like they want to run Ronnie again instead of Bush*
"Reagan showed what high stature that a president can have — and my fear is that Bush will look diminished by comparison," said one Republican sympathetic to Mr. Bush, who did not want to be quoted by name criticizing the president.

Some Republicans said the images of a forceful Mr. Reagan giving dramatic speeches on television provided a less-than-welcome contrast with Mr. Bush's own appearances these days, and that it was not in Mr. Bush's interest to encourage such comparisons. That concern was illustrated on Sunday, one Republican said, by televised images of Mr. Reagan's riveting speech in Normandy commemorating D-Day in 1984, followed by Mr. Bush's address at a similar ceremony on Sunday.

ROTFLMAO
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:51 AM
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3. he`s dead
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 10:51 AM by rchsod
can`t help bush-in fact a hell of alot of people who voted for him are dead or as in dixon in nursing homes
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:53 AM
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4. I knew it!
Even the repubs are recoiling from using Reagan to pump up *

"Reagan showed what high stature that a president can have — and my fear is that Bush will look diminished by comparison," said one Republican sympathetic to Mr. Bush, who did not want to be quoted by name criticizing the president.

But you know what? Rove is just tone deaf enough to do it anyway.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:56 AM
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5. RatTerrier
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
news source.


Thank you.


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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 11:31 AM
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7. Sorry
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 11:33 AM by RatTerrier
They were short paragraphs, though.

I saw your post too late to edit. My bad.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 11:22 AM
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6. Great Communicator vs ..

The Great CONFABULATOR!!!!!

It's not a good contrast. Comparing Bush with Reagan will only make Bush look stupid. And that is ironic since Reagan wasn't too bright of a bulb himself.

Somewhere, Pat Buchanan is saying ...

"I knew Ronald Reagan, and George W Bush is no Ronald Reagan".
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 11:34 AM
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8. That's what I've been saying.
"Reagan showed what high stature that a president can have — and my fear is that Bush will look diminished by comparison,"

Bush will look like the idiot he is.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:11 PM
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9. No matter how hard he tries...
...Dubya is just not a 'Reagan'.
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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:16 PM
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10. Quite true.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:18 PM
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11. So they're already talking about using Reagan for political ads?
What was that about not politicizing Paul Wellstone's death?

I give you . . . GOP hypocrites!
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:21 PM
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12. This will BACKFIRE big-time!
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 12:22 PM by ElementaryPenguin
Images of Reagan will only remind the average repuke how downhill the party has gone - and the "Reagan Democrats" - they can kiss them goodbye - side by side Chimpy looks like the Saturday Night Live skit joke that he is!! Reagan sucked - and he was scripted - but he could give a helluva good speech and had a charismatic, rugged American thing that seemed much more authentic than Chimpy's frat rat, Eddie Haskel meets Barney Fife meets Gilligan version!!

Simply put - Reagan (a puppet) seemed PRESIDENTIAL
While the Mad War Chimp puppet - has never seemed presidential for even a single moment!
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:27 PM
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13. * has all of Reagan's faults and none of his....
...well, I don't think they're actually "virtues", so let's just say strong points.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:48 PM
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14. Well, you know, Reagan was TALL.
Smirk just looks like a little wimpy shrub by comparison. And that's before he even opens his stupid mouth.

Bake
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