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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:29 PM
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Bush to turn gays away from sperm banks
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040520/hl_afp/us_health_homosexuals_040520172443


US to turn gays away from sperm banks

Thu May 20, 1:24 PM ET Add Health - AFP to My Yahoo!



WASHINGTON (AFP) - The US government said it would ban homosexuals from making anonymous donations to sperm banks, in the name of preventing transmittable diseases, in a move swiftly condemned by gay rights groups.


New Food and Drug Administration (news - web sites) rules that take effect May 25 require agencies that collect tissues or cells including sperm to ask the donor if he has had sex with men or used injectable drugs in the past five years. If the answer is affirmative in either case no donation is allowed.


The FDA says the rules are just an extension of procedures already in effect for donating blood or organs.


"This new rule was developed with input from many concerned consumers, associations and tissue establishments. In all cases, we carefully considered the comments we received in the proposed rule and made changes in the final rule when the science supported the change," said Acting FDA commissioner Lester Crawford.

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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:30 PM
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1. LOL...for withdrawals?

LOL...
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:34 PM
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2. Where Is Matcom - This Is A Great Story For His Paper
eom
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:48 PM
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3. " in the name of preventing transmittable diseases"
And so only gays are transmitting those diseases??? Sounds to me like someone might be afraid of a genetic connection after all and not wanting any new homosexuals.
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EV1Ltimm Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:52 PM
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6. my thoughs exactly. nt
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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:53 PM
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9. That's the first thing I thought of too
So much for the "lifestyle" bullshit.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:51 PM
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4. Bush: The Eugenics president
nt
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EV1Ltimm Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:51 PM
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5. what a crock of shit!
"This new rule was developed with input from many concerned consumers, associations ..."

Consumers (read: Religious zealots and ignorant homophobes)
Associations (read: American Family Association)
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:53 PM
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7. Don't Fundies believe

that you can choose to be homosexual?
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:53 PM
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8. Does this extend to ALL tissue? Kidneys? Livers?
I really wonder if it does, as seems to be indicated by the 2nd paragraph...

"Sorry Timmy, you're going to die because we could only find a gay kidney donor..."

The theocracy marches on...
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:03 PM
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10. Hey...
..didn't you hear? You can "catch queer" from a gay anonymous kidney (that might save your life). You know those Texas Taliban... More "policy based on sound science" from the positively whacko loons.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:09 PM
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11. Stupid
It is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. There are plenty of heterosexual people that get STDs as well.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:14 PM
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12. Jesus!!! I actually thought this was an Onion story...
Edited on Fri May-21-04 10:14 PM by alg0912
This is straight from fucking Mengele's notebook!!!

"Ve mustn't let ze homo genes pass to ze Master Race!"

This is goddamn sick!:grr:
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:55 PM
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13. When you think they can't possibly get any more whacked,
they do. Un-fucking-believable! :wtf:
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:03 PM
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14. Eugenics.
Plain and simple.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:10 PM
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15. How about turning away those psychopathic RW Rambo freakazoids?
I'd be a helluva lot less concerned about my child being gay than carrying the chromosomal blueprint of a madman/killer.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 05:40 AM
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16. Well, there is an upside to this. (pardon the pun)
Edited on Sat May-22-04 05:43 AM by The Backlash Cometh
On edit: I read the full article after I posted and realize now that they're concerned about limiting STDs. So I'm changing my response as follows:

It would make better sense if the U.S. government recognized that homosexuality is innate. It's not a learned response, but one that you're born with genetically.

In that case, I believe a woman should have the right to know something about the donor. If you get to know the race of your donor, why can't you be told about their sexual preference? Let homosexuals continue to donate their sperm, but allow for full disclosure information.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 06:38 AM
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17. When it's the union of folks like Dick and Lynne...
that spawns homosexuals, they'd better rethink their "science"!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 07:12 AM
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18. Remember when I said that people would abort gay fetuses
if they could and I got ridiculed for it. Still think I am nuts?
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 07:35 AM
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19. i don't
this was a premise of a play then movie called "Twilight of the Golds"

if there are societies that would abort a girl child, it's not far-fetched that some in this society would do the same with a gay child
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 08:49 AM
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22. You should have seen the names I was called by some pro choicers
Edited on Sat May-22-04 08:50 AM by dsc
and this was after I found several web sites from award winning scientists advocating exactly that.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 08:11 AM
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20. Bush is the worst enemy the gay community has ever had.
Bar none.

This policy announcement is just feeding into that "all gay people are promiscuous and spread disease and don't care" bullshit. It's blatantly, hateful homophobic shit.

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 08:14 AM
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21. Bush is the worst enemy the world community has ever had
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 09:02 AM
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23. More discrimination to pander to the evangelicals
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kevinhnc Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:04 AM
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24. Sigh
Edited on Mon May-24-04 08:04 AM by kevinhnc
I am a MONOGAMOUS, DISEASE-FREE, HOMOSEXUAL male. I am a successful doctor with no family history of genetic diseases. But alas, I'm a really poor candidate as a sperm donor, according to the FDA.

Most sperm donors are college students looking to get some money for their next keg party where they will sleep as many people as they can. Many lie about their family history, because hey, its $50 a pop we are talking about here.

Bush's Nazi-Taliban America at its best.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:11 AM
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25. Being gay is a transmittable disease?
Bu$hco is living in the dark ages.
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