Where did the expression "drinking the Kool-Aid" come from, with Bush?

[coloradodem2005]

I know it means to buy into the propaganda about Bush but where did it come from?

[seabeyond]

1. jim jones i believe

????

[July]

31. I think it was Jones who started it and Paula Zahn, maybe who

used it in an interview -- with someone like Scott Ritter, during the buildup to the Iraq war? Someone here will know this, for sure.

[pinto]

2. Jones cult. Drink the cool aid is to buy into the myth...

[Terran]

3. and to die a nasty death along with yer glorious leader (n/t)

[Touchdown]

4. I think Randi Rhodes started it.

She uses that whenever a Bush Moonie calls in with canned talking points.

[bigbillhaywood]

5. Jim Jones's cult in Jonestown, Guyana had its members drink Kool-Aid

laced w/ cyanide, resulting in mass murder/suicide.

[No2W2004]

11. Yep

Jim Jones told his followers to kill themselves and be with him in paradise because he had a congressman and a team of investigators, who went to Jonestown at the request of relitives of cult members, killed. Jones knew his cult was about to be exposed. They died either by intentionaly by drinking Kool-aide laced with cyanide, or they were shot trying to escape.

[mitchum]

29. NO, IT WAS FLAVOR ADE!

Believe it or not, this was a PR nightmare for Kool Aid's parent company. They launched a massive campaign to set the record straight, but to no avail.

[kaitykaity]

6. The Thugs used it on ANYONE who didn't want

to impeach Clinton for the blow job. I guess turnabout
is fair play after all.

[boobooday]

7. Jim Jones -- it was actually kool-aid

His follower drank poisoned kool aid to commit mass suicide.

It is highly apropo when applied to BushCo.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[Deja Q]

13. Not all of them.

Some were forced to drink it, including little kids.

Others were simply shot.

Given that over 900 people died that sad day, it's a joke when people hype up David Koresh and that goofy comet troupe from a few years ago.

And to think. "Reverend" Moon, with his moonie cult and mass marriages, didn't have enough sense to do himself in. Not yet. It'll be interesting the day he speaks up... :scared: :eyes:

[jmowreader]

21. Some were injected with it.

They found some people who had needle marks in their bodies with cyanide in the surrounding tissues. Some of those needle marks were in places you can't put a needle into yourself; others were in places you can.

[russian33]

8. Last night on SNL...

..they had a skit with Chris Matthews and Andy Card, who was going on and on about Dubya...and 'Chris Matthews' said 'You didn't just drink the Kool-Aid, you went back for seconds!'...funny stuff

[coloradodem2005]

14. Yeah...

....I've heard the expression on here a couple of times and then I heard it on this skit and I started wondering what it meant.

[coloradodem2005]

15. Yeah...

....I've heard the expression on here a couple of times and then I heard it on this skit and I started wondering what it meant.

[DianeG5385]

9. Jonestown, Gguyana

Thousands died for a lie. Jim Jones ran a cult, convinced his followers to drink arsenic laced cool-aid and nearly a thousand people died. Along the way, a US congressman, who went to Guyana to investigate was killed. 1978 was a terrible year, particularly for the SF bay area. Hence the phrase "to drink cool-aid" is to follow blindly to your own detriment.

[nomaco-10]

10. That was a phrase applied to us Dean supporters....

back during the days of the primaries here. It caused quite alot of animosity, but we moved on to more progressive activities. Hadn't even thought about it til your post... Oh, well let's not open up that old wound again, it's all blood under the bridge now.

[Frederic Bastiat]

12. Sharpton used it often during debates n/t

[lapfog_1]

16. And just an historical footnote (trivia)...

that would be GRAPE kool-aid.

After the Jonestown deal (and the year Animal House came out),
a bunch of us sickos would have a toga party and serve grape
kool-aid ala Jim Jones. Just one of many cultural icons of the
era that we incorporated into some very sick and twisted stuff.

[Vickers]

17. This is REALLY picking nits, but it was Flavor Aid, not Kool Aid

I remember at the time the Kool Aid folks releasing a statement stressing that.

[lapfog_1]

34. Hey... yet another piece to trivia

Cool! I stand corrected. Not "Kool-Aid", but Flavor-Aid (which
I never even heard of).

Filed away for the day I win $1M from Regis.

[Ivote]

23. Jim Jones

Originally started as a preacher in Texas, went to another state
before moving to California. As his congregation grew he moved to Guyana. If you get a chance there was a movie made about it.
Jim Jones Guyana Tragedy: The Story of Jim Jones (1980)
This was a Christian destructive, doomsday cult founded and led by James Warren Jones (1931-1978). Jim Jones held degrees from Indiana University and Butler University. He was not a Fundamentalist pastor as many reports in the media and the anti-cult movement claim. He belonged to a mainline Christian denomination, having been ordained in the Christian Church/Disciples of Christ. (At the time of his ordination, the DoC allowed a local congregation to select and ordain a minister on their own. However, ordinations conducted without denominational endorsement were not considered valid within the rest of the church.)
http://www.religioustolerance.org/dc_jones.htm

[DieboldMustDie]

25. How about Electric Kool Ade?

:crazy:

[NNN0LHI]

18. Why do I keep reading the word cult associated with Jim Jones here?

Jim Jones belonged to a mainline Christian denomination, having been ordained in the Christian Church/Disciples of Christ. They are still in business throughout the USA.

http://www.indianadisciples.org/

[No2W2004]

24. That's how he started out,

by the time he started Jonestown, he had a full, blown cult. Members had to give him all their possesions, Jones was free to have sex with anyone in the cult and they couldn't refuse, the members did all the work, while Jones did nothing. Member's relatives in the SF area asked congressman Leo Ryan to investigate their suspisions about Jones. He went to Jonestown with an investigative team and a NBC camera crew. They were all massacred at the airport by Jones' followers.

[NNN0LHI]

30. Thanks for the info but...

...do you know on what date the Christian Church/Disciples of Christ dissociated themselves from Jim Jones?

Don

[jmowreader]

19. It's from The Jonestown Massacre

In November 1978, Congressman Leo Ryan went to Guyana to investigate allegations of abuse at the compound of a cult called the People's Temple, which was run by a man named Jim Jones.

When Ryan went to the airport to leave Guyana, accompanied by 15 Temple members who'd decided they'd had enough of Jones' shit, Jones directed several members of his security apparatus to go to the airport and kill them all. They performed execution-style murders on the congressman and several of his associates, including three of the defectors. (I'm not pulling this completely from memory; some of it's off the Court TV website.)

Jones then called the members of the Temple around him. He told them the enemy was approaching, and that they'd be killed in horribly painful ways. It was time, he said, to implement the contingency plan for Revolutionary Suicide. This was a well-rehearsed plan in which the entire temple would kill itself en masse, beginning with the children: each member would drink a cup of poison-laced Kool-Aid, lay down and die. During rehearsals, everyone lined up, received a cup of Kool-Aid, and drank it.

One thing was different this time: Jones' security forces stirred three pounds of potassium cyanide into the Kool-Aid. Nine hundred thirteen people died because they trusted Jim Jones.

Drinking the Kool-Aid means to blindly follow someone who will be the end of you.

[krkaufman]

22. Thank you for this interpretation

Your statement best highlights the meaning of the phrase:

Drinking the Kool-Aid means to blindly follow someone who will be the end of you.

[i_c_a_White_Ghost]

20. has a good sound to it

Kool :beer: Aid

[Must_B_Free]

26. What about Electric Kool Aid Acid Test

an ironic double meaning that started before Jim Jones

Whether its acid or poison, same type of meaning. That kind of makes it generic.

[RedSock]

27. kool aid kids

http://gothamcity13.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_gothamcity13_archive.html#107998259415950911




click -- there's more!!!!!

[nolabels]

33. I didn't know Rummy wore lipstick for the photo opps

It is amazing when truth becomes stranger than fiction

http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/dancannon/jokes/Truth_Stranger_Than_Fiction/Criminal/Only_in_America.html
(snip)
A true story out of San Francisco: A man, wanting to rob a downtown
Bank of America, walked into the branch and wrote "this iz a stikkup.
Put all your muny in this bag."

While standing in line, waiting to give his note to the teller, he
began to worry that someone had seen him write the note and might call
the police before he reached the teller window. So he left the Bank of
America and crossed the street to Wells Fargo.

After waiting a few minutes in line, he handed his note to the Wells
Fargo teller. She read it and, surmising from his spelling errors that
he wasn't the brightest light in the harbor, told him that she could
not accept his stickup note because it was written on a Bank of
America deposit slip and that he would either have to fill out a Wells
Fargo deposit slip or go back to Bank of America.

Looking somewhat defeated, the man said, "Okay", and left. The Wells
Fargo teller then called the police who arrested the man a few minutes
later, as he was waiting in line back at Bank of America.
(snip)

[Philostopher]

28. Yeah, although I know it was probably Jonestown,

I always found the acid-laced Kool-Aid stories a sort of quirky twist on the meaning. And Republicans who blindly follow Bush do sort of seem to be on an acid trip, don't they?

[SoCalDem]

32. Jonestown massacre.. poison in the koolaid..

Parents gave it to their kids and then drank it themselves.. then they all lay down in rows and died..

Some who did not drink it, were shot..

Jones put the "fun" inc fundamentalism..:eyes: