Hume: these numbers are bad, but they should be a lot worse

[Khephra]

Wow...Fox is actually talking about Bush polls other than their own.

[Khephra]

1. At this point in the process, Carter had an approval of 38%

[k in IA]

3. Shrub is at 42 % approval in multiple polls - not much off 38% and

this War and the prison abuse scandal are not even close to playing themselves out.

Give it time.

[Doosh]

2. and what poll numbers did fox show?

what do they have bush at right now? 62%?

[Khephra]

4. Fox, Gallup and Newsweek (I think)

So the numbers ranged from 48% to 42%.

The idea being pushed now is that it's no longer about the economy, stupid, it's all about Iraq, because the economy is so much better now.

:puke:

[Frances]

7. But to most people gas prices are part of the economy

and gas prices are at record highs. Other goods like milk are also going up.

So, the average person doesn't see the economy as a positive for Bush.

The average person doesn't understand economists and so what the pundits say about the economy doesn't register.

[DBoon]

14. Employment hasn't picked up but inflation has started

Many of the long term unemployed have yet to find jobs. We haven't really had a recovery yet, and now the economy is overheating.

[gratuitous]

5. And why aren't they worse, Brit?

Could it be because you and your treasonous nest of America-hating neocons at Faux have been puffing the incompetent, coked-up frat boy from Day One (minus 365)?

"When the river burst against it, immediately it fell, and great was the ruin of that house."

[jobycom]

6. He's right, and they WOULD be worse if the press was doing

PR work for the Republican Party 24/7.

[dusty64]

8. He is right, they

ought to be MUCH worse.

[TruthIsAll]

9. Brit, you are right..and they will get much worse...

You fascist.

[davsand]

10. When Fox admits shrub is in trouble you KNOW it is bad.

I was, however, horrified to hear that the prisoner torture is not something we should be upset by--that it is part of any war. Gawd, it makes me want to vomit to hear that kind of stuff even off of FAUX news.

Laura

[Khephra]

I think the whole "frat boy" excuse is worse, which is new for this war

But you're right...when Faux starts going "Why aren't Bush's poll numbers lower?" you know something is wrong.

:hi:

[Khephra]

12. I think the whole "frat boy" excuse is worse, which is new for this war

But you're right...when Faux starts going "Why aren't Bush's poll numbers lower?" you know something is wrong.

:hi:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

11. "As an incumbent in May of an election year, Bush should be doing

much better than behind or tied."

So, instead of "Kerry should be doing a lot better than he is" or "Bush should be doing a lot worse than he is" the point is, Bush kicking ass at this point with the advantages of incumbency and spending all that dough.

This should be the refrain to counter the oft heard Right Wing talking point that "Kerry really should be doing a lot better than being tied or slightly ahead after all the weeks of bad news from Iraq and the prisoner scandal. Kerry's in trouble."

Bush is the one who's in trouble.

[kskiska]

13. Faux's panel the other day

admitted that all the money being spent on negative ads, etc., will mean nothing, that this election is going to hinge on events in Iraq, something that the White House has absolutely no control over.