Al Martin: Will Bush Cheney Cancel the Election?

[kera]

In his April 26 column, "Warning Signs: Is This the Calm Before the Bushonian Storm?" political-economic analyst Al Martin asks "What are the warning signs that point to an economic debacle in the United States? What are the future possibilities we face -- especially due to the recent moves undertaken by the Treasury Department including the reinstatement of the Gold Confiscation Act?"

The warning signs are quite ominous, according to Al Martin, author of "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra Insider." As one of America's foremost experts on corporate and government fraud, Martin sees subtle but important indications that the Bush Cabal may be preparing to cancel the 2004 presidential elections. He also sees signs that the Bush Cheney Regime may be preparing for economic collapse due to execssive and egregious federal deficit spending.

"There is talk coming out of the Treasury Department about upgrading the nominal monetary status of American gold bullion coins to make them confiscatable at stated value instead of the actual bullion value in the coin.


http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/

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[Syrinx]

1. What the heck is the "Gold Confiscation Act?"

I never heard of that before.

[kera]

2. answer to yur ?

The Gold Confiscation Of April 5, 1933
From: President of the United States Franklin Delano Roosevelt
To: The United States Congress
Dated: 5 April, 1933
Presidential Executive Order 6102
Forbidding the Hoarding of Gold Coin, Gold Bullion and Gold Certificates By virtue of the authority vested in me by Section 5(b) of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended by Section 2 of the Act of March 9, 1933, entitled

An Act to provide relief in the existing national emergency in banking, and for other purposes~',

in which amendatory Act Congress declared that a serious emergency exists,

I, Franklin D. Roosevelt, President of the United States of America, do declare that said national emergency still continues to exist and pursuant to said section to do hereby prohibit the hoarding gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States by individuals, partnerships, associations and corporations and hereby prescribe the following regulations for carrying out the purposes of the order:

Section 1. For the purpose of this regulation, the term 'hoarding" means the withdrawal and withholding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates from the recognized and customary channels of trade. The term "person" means any individual, partnership, association or corporation.

Section 2. All persons are hereby required to deliver on or before May 1, 1933, to a Federal Reserve bank or a branch or agency thereof or to any member bank of the Federal Reserve System all gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates now owned by them or coming into their ownership on or before April 28, 1933, except the following:

(a) Such amount of gold as may be required for legitimate and customary use in industry, profession or art within a reasonable time, including gold prior to refining and stocks of gold in reasonable amounts for the usual trade requirements of owners mining and refining such gold.

(b) Gold coin and gold certificates in an amount not exceeding in the aggregate $100.00 belonging to any one person; and gold coins having recognized special value to collectors of rare and unusual coins.

(c) Gold coin and bullion earmarked or held in trust for a recognized foreign government or foreign central bank or the Bank for International Settlements.

(d) Gold coin and bullion licensed for the other proper transactions (not involving
http://www.the-privateer.com/1933-gold-confiscation.html

[Syrinx]

4. thanks

One day I'll learn to do my own googling. :)

[seemslikeadream]

3. The Gold Confiscation Of April 5, 1933

From: President of the United States Franklin Delano Roosevelt
To: The United States Congress
Dated: 5 April, 1933
Presidential Executive Order 6102
Forbidding the Hoarding of Gold Coin, Gold Bullion and Gold Certificates By virtue of the authority vested in me by Section 5(b) of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended by Section 2 of the Act of March 9, 1933, entitled

An Act to provide relief in the existing national emergency in banking, and for other purposes~',

in which amendatory Act Congress declared that a serious emergency exists,

I, Franklin D. Roosevelt, President of the United States of America, do declare that said national emergency still continues to exist and pursuant to said section to do hereby prohibit the hoarding gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States by individuals, partnerships, associations and corporations and hereby prescribe the following regulations for carrying out the purposes of the order:

Section 1. For the purpose of this regulation, the term 'hoarding" means the withdrawal and withholding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates from the recognized and customary channels of trade. The term "person" means any individual, partnership, association or corporation.

Section 2. All persons are hereby required to deliver on or before May 1, 1933, to a Federal Reserve bank or a branch or agency thereof or to any member bank of the Federal Reserve System all gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates now owned by them or coming into their ownership on or before April 28, 1933, except the following:

(a) Such amount of gold as may be required for legitimate and customary use in industry, profession or art within a reasonable time, including gold prior to refining and stocks of gold in reasonable amounts for the usual trade requirements of owners mining and refining such gold.

(b) Gold coin and gold certificates in an amount not exceeding in the aggregate $100.00 belonging to any one person; and gold coins having recognized special value to collectors of rare and unusual coins.

(c) Gold coin and bullion earmarked or held in trust for a recognized foreign government or foreign central bank or the Bank for International Settlements.

(d) Gold coin and bullion licensed for the other proper transactions (not involving hoarding) including gold coin and gold bullion imported for the re-export or held pending action on applications for export license.

Section 3. Until otherwise ordered any person becoming the owner of any gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates after April 28, 1933, shall within three days after receipt thereof, deliver the same in the manner prescribed in Section 2; unless such gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates are held for any of the purposes specified in paragraphs (a),(b) or (c) of Section 2; or unless such gold coin, gold bullion is held for purposes specified in paragraph (d) of Section 2 and the person holding it is, with respect to such gold coin or bullion, a licensee or applicant for license pending action thereon.

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http://www.the-privateer.com/1933-gold-confiscation.html

[mom cat]

5. Don't we have to cancel the elections if we go to code red?

Hey! What happens at code red anyway?

[RPM]

6. Martial law

'nuff said

[Layman]

7. No, not quite 'nuff said

Martial law AND civil war.

[newyawker99]

27. Hi soulsick in jp!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[FlemingsGhost]

8. I wish they would. Seriously.

This crypto-fascist bullshit is too easily ignored by the masses. Put martial law/dictatorship in their faces, and watch the seeds of revolution take root.

[Whoa_Nelly]

9. Can't find any recent such news re: Gold Confiscation reinstated

have googled all over and can't find any news reports that support this. Anyone have more info?

[hang a left]

13. I found this

By Jon Christian Ryter

January 12, 2004

NewsWithViews.com

Within two months gold brokers and jewelers in the United States will fall under the purview of the Bank Secrecy Act of 2001 and will be required to report to the Treasury Department's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network any time one of their customers buys $50,000 in gold or precious stones, or spends more than $10,000 in cash.

The twist in this regulation comes from Section 103.23 of the Bank Secrecy Act that forces gold brokers and jewelers to construe that separate purchases over a period of several days or weeks are, in fact, one purchase in the eyes of FinCEN. What was going to happen in late February or March, 2004 began to surface as a cyber-rumor in late November. By the middle of December the Internet was flooded with unsubstantiated rumors that gold confiscation was around the corner. A mid-level Treasury official addressing a jewelers' convention in November mentioned that the Treasury Department was writing the regulations that would enforce Section 359 of the USA Patriot Act, commonly known as the Bank Secrecy Act. The conspiracy dam ruptured, and the cyber-flood began. Only this time, the rumors were largely true with respect to a registry being created for gold brokers and diamond and precious stone merchants and their most profitable clients.

The Bank Secrecy Act of 2001 was written by the same FDIC and Fed officials who created the privacy intrusion regulations in 1998 that were innocuously promoted to the American people as a bank "service" referred to as "Know Your Customer." On the heels of the repudiation of "Know Your Customer" by America's financial institutions and privacy rights groups, Congress made two attempts--one in 1999 and another in 2000--to enact the Clinton Administration's proffered money laundering legislation that would have expanded law enforcement's access to personal information about your financial transactions (if there was sufficient grounds to suspect you might be engaged in some sort of unlawful activity due to the size of either the withdrawals from, or deposits into, your account at a bank, savings and loan, credit union or brokerage house). After HR 3886, The International Counter-Money Laundering Act of 2000 died on the vine, it would be September 11, 2001 before the American people would be frightened enough to blindly sacrifice a little bit more of their constitutional privacy for what they erroneously believed would be a safer America. On October 27, 2001 the Bank Secrecy Act piggybacked its way to passage as Section 359 of Public Law 107-56--the Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required To Intercept and Destruct Terrorism (USA Patriot Act of 2001).

Taking its time, the Paul O'Neill Treasury Department did not submit its draft outline of its proposed regulations and enforcement guidelines to the House and Senate Banking Committees for their purview until November, 2002. Dr. Ron Paul , the vice-chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, dashed off an angry e-mail to then Treasury Secretary O'Neill in which he said: "I am writing to express my concerns regarding the Financial Crime Enforcement Network (FINCEN)'s proposed new regulations implementing the USA Patriot Act's amendments to the Bank Secrecy Act . When they are implemented, these regulations will violate the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens who purchase precious metals and hinder law-enforcement efforts to identify and apprehend terrorists."

http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon13.htm

[hang a left]

14. And this

A note to clients:

To understand how a gold confiscation might be possible nearly 70 years after the last one under Franklin Roosevelt occurred in 1933, all one needs to do is attempt to postulate how the massive federal debt (nearly $6 trillion and growing) and the outstanding international dollar float (resulting from the U.S. trade and budget deficits) are going to be reconciled. At present, the U.S. dollar enjoys special status around the world as the primary reserve currency. This encourages -- some would say "forces" -- central banks and individual investors globally to hold it. Leaving the various circumstances and potential scenarios aside, what would be the outcome if the props were kicked out from underneath this built-in dollar market, for whatever reason, and even a portion of the foreign-held greenbacks were repatriated to the United States, or set loose on world currency markets? Even more importantly, how would the government react to an economic emergency in which individuals, beset by either a devastating domestic inflation or a deflationary nightmare or both, were fleeing the banks and equity markets for gold as a means of preserving their personal capital? Beyond that, what would happen if our foreign creditors decided that the national debt should now be backed by something other than the government's promise to pay, and forced the United States to bring its gold reserves into play? Historically, confiscation has all too often been the option taken by governments beset by an economic breakdown. Just as gold is the asset of last resort for the individual portfolio doing service in the most financially threatening times, so it is all too often the asset of last resort for troubled governments as well. As recently as 1998 during the Asian Contagion, both South Korea and Thailand implemented "voluntary" gold call-ins. The temptation presented by its citizens' gold holdings was simply too facile to resist.

This memorandum -- which includes a question and answer overview and comprehensive supporting appendices -- details why we believe pre-1933 gold coins offer the best protection against a potential government gold confiscation. We do not in any way intend this to be a formal legal opinion, but a simple presentation of documents and political/economic history that might help you form your own opinion on the matter. Furthermore, we are not stating categorically that pre-1933 gold coins will survive confiscation. Instead we are stating that we believe, given the weight of legal precedent as reprinted here, this is the best option available for those with concerns about confiscation. Ultimately, you will be the one to weigh the potential for a gold confiscation and whether or not pre-1933 gold coins will be part of (or the totality) of your gold holdings. This memorandum provides to our knowledge the most detailed and comprehensive documentation on the subject of gold confiscation in the United States assembled to date. We sincerely hope it it fulfills the purpose for which it is intended -- to help you make an informed decision on the type of gold best suited to meet your portfolio goals.

First-time Gold Buyers: What you need to know before you buy your first ounce of gold.

http://www.usagold.com/cpm/privacy.html

[Whoa_Nelly]

15. Thanks, liberalnproud

Your search'n'find efforts and postings are much appreciated O8)

[hang a left]

16. Your welcome Angel O.

I just love tin foil. I like conspiracy planet too. It may be out there, but so is this world today.

[seemslikeadream]

21. have you seen this?

http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/april2004/042504bushseizure.htm

[hang a left]

22. That was in GD a couple of days ago.

Lots of funny posts. It was a crack-up.

[zydeco]

10. I hate to sound naive

but has there ever been an election canceled? I cannot fathom a reason for this to ever occur and if it did I hate to consider the consequences of such an action.

[Lindacooks]

17. There was never an election stolen before either

before 2000, where a recount was stopped by the Supreme Court and the 'winner' appointed to the Presidency having lost the popular vote.

Don't put anything past these guys. They will do ANYTHING to get and keep power.

[huellewig]

18. I would like to know this too.

If this happened I think I would flip my shit. (I don't know what flipping my shit is but it sounds really bad) I'm glad we have many guns and boxes of ammo.

--awaiting the revolution--

[Stephanie]

11. Al Martin qualifies as a legitimate LBN source?

I don't really find him credible.

[sally343434]

12. Al Martin? Not reliable

Al Martin is a "political-economic analyst" according to ... Al Martin.

Al Martin is "one of America's foremost experts on corporate and government fraud" according to ... Al Martin.

The guy writes his own promotional material like this in the third person. I've read his stuff and he's WAY out there in his own fantasy land. Some would call him "certifiable."

[BadGimp]

19. TFH Alert

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[dusty64]

20. Hmm, I would

put NOTHING past our cabal. What does he mean by this? I do not recall hearing about it.
>> These warning signs are telling us that the Bush-Cheney regime will be in office next year -- and they might not necessarily be an elected government, as renowned New York Times columnist William Safire also recently pointed out. <<

[Jack The Tab]

23. Oh yeah, I believe Al Martin....

the same way I believe Lyndon LaRouche.

[yellowcanine]

24. * thinks he will win the election, why cancel it?

* is convinced that God helped him "win" in 2000 - why wouldn't God help him again? It doesn't matter what the polls are and in fact the last polls probably will be similar to the last polls in 2000 - so * will figure that God will pull him through again. By the time he realizes his mistake it will be too late - Kerry will be the President-elect. He dang sure won't be able to do anything about it then. Even the Pubbies would vote to impeach if he tried.

[TNOE]

25. Well they thought they had it all wrapped up

with the voting machines, but since that may present a problem for them.... yea, you'd think with God on their side - they wouldn't need to stoop to diry political tricks or even worry. Although I must say - it doesn't look like God is on our side in Iraq......

The Repubs are not going to get it until he comes for their guns - then too late.

[TrogL]

26. This sounds more like goldbug ranting

than :tinfoilhat: