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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:00 PM
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The Most PATHETIC Moment at the "Press Conference"
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 10:03 PM by Beetwasher
Was when he was asked about appearing w/ Cheney before the 9/11 commission. Holy Cow what a WIMP!

Here's the exchange:

QUESTION: Mr. President, why are you and the vice president insisting on appearing together before the 9-11 commission? And, Mr. President, who will we be handing the Iraqi government over to on June 30th?

BUSH: We'll find that out soon. That's what Mr. Brahimi is doing. He's figuring out the nature of the entity we'll be handing sovereignty over.

And, secondly, because the 9-11 commission wants to ask us questions, that's why we're meeting. And I look forward to meeting with them and answering their questions.

QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE) I was asking why you're appearing together, rather than separately, which was their request.

BUSH: Because it's a good chance for both of us to answer questions that the 9-11 commission is looking forward to asking us. And I'm looking forward to answering them
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:01 PM
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1. agree
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:02 PM
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2. You're correct!!!
We... ah....

Say it Monkey Boy: "We weren't even in the same STATE all day, but we need to keep our phony, baloney story straight. Right Dick???"

:wtf:
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:02 PM
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3. It was nice that the reporter asked it twice
Each time the Wimp took a dive behind the podium.

Poor little scardy cat Bush! :scared:
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TXDemGal Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:50 AM
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24. That reporter probably is blacklisted now. n/t
n/t
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:04 PM
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4. Agreed. This comment, and the "biggest mistake" question
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:06 PM
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5. Why Bush needs "Vice" President Cheney's help:
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:12 PM
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6. LOL!!!
Well that cartoon is partially correct!! It is missing
Karl Rove, Karen Hughes, Richard Perle, and Paul Wolfowitz.
(Maybe they take turns??)
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:24 PM
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8. Welcome physioex, we need ALL the help we can get!
Send $$$ to Kerry please!
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:20 AM
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14. Send $$$ to Kerry
Hey I started by sending money to Howard Dean.
And I am on the $25/month to Kerry plan. This is
the first election I am giving money. TY for the
welcome. :)
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:28 AM
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19. Hi physioex!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:21 PM
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7. He shirked.
He should have said "I cannot move my lips unless Cheney's hand is up my ass" or "I am afraid to be alone" or "I am total idiot, and cannot form sentences without help from poppy Dick"
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:26 PM
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9. I suspect that..
..Lil Georgie will be sitting directly on Big Dick's lap during their appearance.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:32 PM
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10. While ducking the dual appearance question was lame, the
most disturbing answer of the PC was this:

BUSH: We'll find that out soon. That's what Mr. Brahimi is doing. He's figuring out the nature of the entity we'll be handing sovereignty over.


Scary shit, that. This is our FP. Our "exit strategy.":party:
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BostonTeaParty04 Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:44 PM
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11.  I KNow!!! He doesn't do ANY work....
doesn't put ONE OUNCE of mental/intellectual energy into anything that happens. Nothing. Nada. Zip.

He has all these people present stuff to him.. and he goes OKAY... good, we will run with that.

He's like a YES MAN for his own cabinet AND the entirety of the us military....

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TimMooring Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:53 PM
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12. It was the pathetic moment - but so much good material!
I know! I swear that Jon Stewart and the Daily Show will pick up on the "I have must-calls" moment! Wait and See!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:01 PM
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13. Something will pop in my head" - is there a transcript
for this motherlode?
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:25 AM
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15. There were so many pathetic moments,
it's really hard to pick one. I loved the answer about Brahimi. "He's figuring out the nature of the entity we'll be handing sovereignity over to." The nature of the entity-animal, vegetable or mineral? Oy.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:28 AM
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16. So, Mr. Bush. As far as the Iraqi Sovereignty Turnover...
... I take it you're saying "Your guess is as good as mine."

Well, actually, you said "We'll find out soon!" You kinda winked and smirked when you said it, as if it was the secret prize behind Door Number Fucking Three.

"We'll find out soon!" You non-answering, non-plan-havin' unelected Chimp.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:47 AM
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18. You Know, That Moment was both Most Pathetic and Chilling
The Cheney part was pathetic but the part where it's clear they are CLUELESS about what's going on in Iraq is deathly chilling. I think that moment, that question and it's answers sort of encapsulated the whole thing, all wrapped in nice tidy package.
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uncertainty1999 Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:05 AM
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17. of course, the mainstream media ignored this point in their recap...
I was howling when this question came up. The entire press corp should have been as well (though thankfully the reporter who asked the question asked it twice).
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:31 AM
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20. Hi uncertainty1999!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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CityZen-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:41 AM
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21. When The "Resident" Showed Up!
Did you notice that he was sweating like a PIG! And those Chimp facial expressions he made.
And at he end of the so called Press Conference how he told the reporters in the back of the room, "If you shout you will not be called on!"
As if he was going to call on any reporter who was not on his Butt-Puppet list!
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:45 AM
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22. amen, CZ-X. the moment spanning 8:30-9:30 p.m. ET. whole thing was shite !
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:48 AM
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23. I was HOPING so much someone would ask that!
They are talking about it right now on O'Franken!
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Elbowroom Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:54 AM
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25. my take posted from another forum
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 11:56 AM by Elbowroom
transcript from Bush's speech can be found here:


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2004/04/13/bush13.DTL


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below is my take:

Quotes from the speech start with " quote " and end with " /quote ". Everything else is comes from me. Not sure how the format is supposed to be on this site yet.

check it out:



Text of President Bush's press conference at the White House on Tuesday, April 13, 2004, as transcribed by eMediaMillWorks Inc.:

BUSH: Good evening.

Before I take your questions, let me speak with the American people about the situation in Iraq.

This has been tough weeks in that country. Coalition forces have encountered serious violence in some areas of Iraq. Our military commanders report that this violence is being instigated by three groups. Some remnants of Saddam Hussein's regime, along with Islamic militants, have attacked coalition forces in the city of Fallujah. Terrorists from other countries have infiltrated Iraq to incite and organize attacks.



he he he ......come on now, at least get the first sentence of your statement right!




QUESTION: Mr. President, I'd like to follow up on a couple of these questions that have been asked.

One of the biggest criticisms of you is that whether it's WMD in Iraq, postwar planning in Iraq, or even the question of whether this administration did enough to ward off 9-11, you never admit a mistake. Is that a fair criticism, and do you believe that there were any errors in judgment that you made related to any of those topics I brought up?

BUSH: Well, I think, as I mentioned, you know, the country wasn't on war footing, and yet we're at war.

And that's just a reality, Dave. I mean, that was the situation that existed prior to 9-11, because the truth of the matter is most in the country never felt that we'd be vulnerable to an attack such as the one that Osama bin Laden unleashed on us.

We knew he had designs on us. We knew he hated us. But there was nobody in our government, at least, and I don't think the prior government that could envision flying airplanes into buildings on such a massive scale.

The people know where I stand, I mean, in terms of Iraq. I was very clear about what I believed. And, of course, I want to know why we haven't found a weapon yet. But I still know Saddam Hussein was a threat. And the world is better off without Saddam Hussein.

I don't think anybody can -- maybe people can argue that. I know the Iraqi people don't believe that, that they're better off with Saddam Hussein -- would be better off with Saddam Hussein in power.

I also know that there's an historic opportunity here to change the world. And it's very important for the loved ones of our troops to understand that the mission is an important, vital mission for the security of America and for the ability to change the world for the better.



Mr. President....you forgot to answer the question. Oh, I love the way you say ".......But there was nobody in our government, at least, and I don't think the prior government that could envision flying airplanes into buildings on such a massive scale. " That "..on such a massive scale." is the only thing that keeps that statement from being a lie.


QUESTION: Mr. President, good evening. I'd like to ask you about the August 6th PDB.

BUSH: Sure.

QUESTION: You've mentioned it at Fort Hood on Sunday. You pointed out that it did not warn of a hijacking of airplanes to crash into buildings, but that it warned of hijacking to obviously take hostages and to secure the release of extremists that are being held by the U.S.

Did that trigger some specific actions on your part in the administration, since it dealt with potentially hundreds of lives and a blackmail attempt on the United States government?

BUSH: And I asked for the briefing. And the reason I did is because there had been a lot of threat intelligence from overseas. And so, I -- part of it had to do with the Genoa G-8 conference that I was going to attend. And I asked at that point in time, let's make sure we are paying attention here at home, as well. And that's what triggered the report.

The report itself, I've characterized it as mainly history. And I think when you look at it, you'll see that it was talking about a '97 and '98 and '99.

It was also an indication, as you mentioned, that bin Laden might want to hijack an airplane but, as you said, not to fly into a building, but perhaps to release a person in jail. In other words, he would serve it as a blackmail.

And of course that concerns me. All those reports concern me. As a matter of fact, I was dealing with terrorism a lot as the president when George Tenet came in to brief me. I mean, that's where I got my information.

I changed the way that the relationship between the president and the CIA director. And I wanted Tenet in the Oval Office all the time. And we had briefings about terrorist threats. This was a summary.

Now, in the -- what's called the PDB, there was a warning about bin Laden's desires on America. But, frankly, I didn't think there was anything new. I mean, major newspapers had talked about bin Laden's desires on hurting America.

What was interesting in there was that there was a report that the FBI was conducting field investigations. And that was good news, that they were doing their job.

The way my administration worked, Ed, was that I met with Tenet all the time. I obviously met with my principals a lot. We talked about threats that had emerged. We have a counterterrorism group meeting on a regular basis to analyze the threats that came in. Had there been a threat that required action by anybody in the government, I would have dealt with it.


BUSH: In other words, had they come up and said, this is where we see something happening, you can rest assured that the people of this government would have responded and responded in a forceful way.

I mean, one of the things about Elizabeth's question was, I stepped back and I've asked myself a lot, is there anything we could have done to stop the attacks? Of course I've asked that question, as have many people in my government. Nobody wants this to happen to America.

And the answer is that had I had any inkling whatsoever that the people were going to fly airplanes into buildings, we would have moved heaven and earth to save the country, just like we're working hard to prevent a further attack.



Mr. Bush....you forgot to answer the question again. Did the PDB trigger any specific actions on your part? What Ed is wanting to know is....did you contact the FAA and tell them to be on the look out? Did you tell them to have all of their pilots be on the look out? Did you contact any airports to tell their security to be extra aware? That is what Ed wants to know. Did you do anything specific like that? Did you take action? I know you were on vacation for that whole month, but yo still could have done some things.
You said "The report itself, I've characterized it as mainly history. And I think when you look at it, you'll see that it was talking about a '97 and '98 and '99. " What does the following excerpt from that PDB have to do with the late 90's: "Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York."? Does recent not really mean recent?
Oh...I see, you said "It was also an indication, as you mentioned, that bin Laden might want to hijack an airplane but, as you said, not to fly into a building, but perhaps to release a person in jail. In other words, he would serve it as a blackmail."
When you say "release a person from jail", doesn't that mean they wanted to take Americans(..maybe 100/200+) hostage in order to release a person from jail? Why did you not speak of that part of the equation? It isn't just blakmail...it is taking hundereds of Americans hostage.

QUESTION: Mr. President, why are you and the vice president insisting on appearing together before the 9-11 commission? And, Mr. President, who will we be handing the Iraqi government over to on June 30th?

BUSH: We'll find that out soon. That's what Mr. Brahimi is doing. He's figuring out the nature of the entity we'll be handing sovereignty over.

And, secondly, because the 9-11 commission wants to ask us questions, that's why we're meeting. And I look forward to meeting with them and answering their questions.

QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE) I was asking why you're appearing together, rather than separately, which was their request.

BUSH: Because it's a good chance for both of us to answer questions that the 9-11 commission is looking forward to asking us. And I'm looking forward to answering them.

Let's see. Hold on for a minute. Let's see. Oh, Jim.



Hey dumbshit, you forgot to answer the question. Why are you two appearing together, rather than separately, which was their request.











askjfbkjdsfbkjdas!!!!! These are only just a few of the questions you danced around. We deserve the truth, not this BS. Turn the tele-prompter off, take out your ear piece that is used to feed you answers and speak to us fo real.


one more:


QUESTION: Thank you, Mr. President.

In the last campaign, you were asked a question about the biggest mistake you'd made in your life, and you used to like to joke that it was trading Sammy Sosa.

You've looked back before 9-11 for what mistakes might have been made. After 9-11, what would your biggest mistake be, would you say, and what lessons have learned from it?

BUSH: I wish you'd have given me this written question ahead of time so I could plan for it.

John, I'm sure historians will look back and say, gosh, he could've done it better this way or that way. You know, I just - I'm sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference, with all the pressure of trying to come up with answer, but it hadn't yet.

I would've gone into Afghanistan the way we went into Afghanistan. Even knowing what I know today about the stockpiles of weapons, I still would've called upon the world to deal with Saddam Hussein.

See, I'm of the belief that we'll find out the truth on the weapons. That's why we sent up the independent commission. I look forward to hearing the truth as to exactly where they are. They could still be there. They could be hidden, like the 50 tons of mustard gas in a turkey farm.

One of the things that Charlie Duelfer talked about was that he was surprised of the level of intimidation he found amongst people who should know about weapons and their fear of talking about them because they don't want to be killed.

You know, there's this kind of - there's a terror still in the soul of some of the people in Iraq. They're worried about getting killed, and therefore they're not going to talk. But it'll all settle out, John. We'll find out the truth about the weapons at some point in time.

However, the fact that he had the capacity to make them bothers me today just like it would have bothered me then. He's a dangerous man. He's a man who actually not only had weapons of mass destruction - the reason I can say that with certainty is because he used them.

And I have no doubt in my mind that he would like to have inflicted harm, or paid people to inflict harm, or trained people to inflict harm, on America, because he hated us.

I hope - I don't want to sound like I have made no mistakes. I'm confident I have. I just haven't - you just put me under the spot here, and maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one.

Yes, Ann?




you arrogant arrogant man..........you obviously can do no wrong
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Elbowroom Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:01 PM
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27. fuck
just go here to see what i am tring to post

http://www.lunarmagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7608
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:57 AM
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26. Maybe Bush was told he HAD to appear with Cheney
Sometimes I think the forces that rule are bigger than Bush himself. That Bush is just a dupe who is told what to say and do. Not only because he wants to, but because he has to. There must be a certain fear among the big money boys in the Republican Party and the secretive neocons that someone as simple and shallow as Bush may pose a threat to exposing their master plan and corrupt games.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:05 PM
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28. Anyone hearing that answer HAD to be left with the following thought
"WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?"

I would venture to guess in the next few days, some in the press will take off with that.
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