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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:06 PM
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House of Saud bought Bush for $1.477 billion - got private flight 9/13
It appears that Bush may have personally authorized Bin Laden family members to fly out of the country on "lavishly customized Boeing 727 airliner that was equipped with a master bedroom suite, huge flat-screen TVs, and a bathroom with gold-plated fixtures".

Why? Because Bush works for the Saudis. They've paid him $1.477 billion over the years, and he takes orders from them.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2004/04/11/unasked_questions/



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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:12 PM
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1. Looks very incriminating doesn't it?
Suspicious at the very least.

Well, lets see if they dare ask even?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:14 PM
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2. dare i dream it????
The beginning of the great unraveling?
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:19 PM
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3. Take the money and run huh?
I'd like to see some more info on this. Which cities were the flights from, etc. What were the Saudi's doing here?

Irony of ironies, the horses name, War Emblem
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:11 PM
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4. THAT is the question, "WHAT were they doing here?"
This is VERY inflammatory stuff.

Why were there so many of them here....I mean, the higher ups? Were they waiting to make sure it all happened the way they'd planned? How big of a check did they write bush out on that balcony, for staying out of the way while their people blew up the towers?

Georgie has some 'splainin' to do.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:24 AM
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22. Just like any other nationality, Kuwaitis & Saudis have large
land investments here in the U.S.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:50 PM
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11. One was at the Keeneland
yearling sale at the time. He flew out of the Lexington Ky Bluegrass Field.

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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:17 PM
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5. Kick! Kick! Kick!
This article is damning! Look at this:

Former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke told me, and later the 9/11 commission, about discussions in the White House that allowed the flights to begin.

That's right, discussions IN THE WHITE HOUSE about letting the Saudis flee the country without being interviewed first by the FBI and CIA.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:25 PM
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6. Clarke said in testimony two weeks ago that
the request came from either Andrew Card or State. He said in the confusion of the emergency he didn't remember who requested it, but they refused it and passed it on to FBI.

Your bet - did it come from Andrew Card (WH Chief of Staff,) or State?
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:30 PM
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7. It's good to see this in the Boston Globe....n/t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:32 PM
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8. Excerpt:
Let's go back to Sept. 13, 2001, and look at several scenes that were taking place simultaneously. Three thousand people had just been killed. The toxic rubble of the World Trade Center was still ablaze. American airspace was locked down. Not even Bill Clinton and Al Gore, who were out of the country, were allowed to fly home.

<snip>

The plane taking off from Tampa was the first of at least eight aircraft that began flying across the country, stopping in at least 12 American cities and carrying at least 140 passengers out of the country over the next week or so. The planes included a lavishly customized Boeing 727 airliner that was equipped with a master bedroom suite, huge flat-screen TVs, and a bathroom with gold-plated fixtures. Many of the passengers were high-ranking members of the royal House of Saud. About 24 of them were members of the bin Laden family, which owned the Saudi Binladin Group, a multibillion-dollar construction conglomerate.

All this occurred at a time when intelligence analysts knew that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, that Saudi money was one of the major forces behind Al Qaeda, and that the prime suspect -- Osama bin Laden -- was Saudi as well.

For its part, the Bush administration has erected the proverbial stone wall on the topic of the Saudi evacuation. The White House told me that it is "absolutely confident" the Sept. 13 flight from Tampa did not take place. The FBI said "unequivocally" it played no role in facilitating any flights. The Federal Aviation Administration said that the Tampa-to-Lexington flight was not in the logs and did not take place.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:40 PM
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9. i just can't BELIEVE this isn't getting more attention
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:41 PM
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10. Thats a good reason why we give them
free reign as they teach kids wahabiism. Future terrorists .

Our Pres is so corrupt its just staggering.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 12:01 AM
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12. Just flipping channels and bumped into a Dennis Miller rerun...a woman
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 12:11 AM by Gloria
reporter from Newsweek International, asking why the Democrats on the commission aren't asking about the 60 Saudis getting flown out of the country. Nearly fell off my chair. Her name was ? Louis Badrach (SP??)
She said it was distrubing.

She mentioned the fact that it was done over the objections of the FBI and another agency..CIA?

She was also incensed about the photo op Bush had with Prince Bandar (I think) just after 911, with the cowboy boots, etc.....

#############

If I recall, the flights went out over the course of a few days...I think one was a group out of Las Vegas...which is interesting because apparently some of the hijackers had spent time in Las Vegas.....The Kentucky flight has been mentioned in a post (above).
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 12:06 AM
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13. Blackmail?
Do the Saudis know something about bush that he doesn't want spread? Or are they threatening to shut off the oil if he allows the Saudis to be fingered as the perps?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 02:22 AM
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18. Great minds think alike!
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 02:31 AM by Old and In the Way
:-)

Really, are there national security implications in this relationship?

(1) The bin Laden family safe passage after 9/11.
(2) No retaliation on Saudi Arabia although 15/19 pilots come from there.
(3) Safe passage out of Afghanistan for AQ/Pakistani fighters.
(4) The really huge elephant in the room: How many trillions of Saudi money is invested in our economy?
(5) Moving our bases out of SA.
(6) Saudi Arabia's #1 regional concern? Iraq. Could our sons and daughters be shedding blood to support the strategic objectives of the House of Saud?

Clearly, there's been a financial relationship for Bush and Republican interests over the past 25 years. Has this come at our ultimate expense?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:29 AM
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23. That's what happens when you have a huge family with lots of sons.
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 08:30 AM by The Backlash Cometh
They need land to expand their holdings and Iraq was the most vulnerable oil rich country.

Damn. The Iraq War and the Bush/bin Laden relationship goes to show you what happens when you privatize national interests.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:44 PM
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25. If we do secure bases in Iraq, then we will become Saudi Arabia's
greatest threat. We will not be their enemy because we desire revenge, but the main oil fields in SA is in the east of of the country, across the border from Iraq is what we desire.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:07 AM
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27. That would be phase 2....after we've drained the Iraqi fields,
In the meantime, we've made the Royal Family's life a lot more bearable by acceding to OBL's wishes.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:00 PM
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28. I have gotten two Republicans to read
the PNAC document, "Rebuilding America's Defenses."
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 12:11 AM
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14. What kind of deals has Bush made with the Saudis??
Behind the guise of United States President, in the secrecy of Crawford, what part of our Nation has Bush SOLD & traded to the Saudi Govt.
Hiding behind the drama of the Iraq War, mean old Sadaam, fake patriotism, and the Vulcan's in the W House, we have no doubt been wheeled and dealed without consent or knowing.

Like I said when Bush was in early campaign status of 2000:
Bush people are born oil men. That is their business. Not politicians or statesmen. They make big $$ deals with global oil barons and the Presidency of this Nation, was necessary to afford them the powers, protection, and access to funds to wheel & deal with the biggest of them all.

Oil men, its in their blood. Bush has proved this so often by the pilfering of our national trusts, use of our military and flat out lying to America & the World. His ONLY goal of the Office of Presidency was to personally benefit from all it had to offer his end means.
Bush family plays in the big league with big oil deals.
It has ALWAYS been about oil. Thats who the Bush people ARE!

Bush & Bin Laden Families go back forever. Thats why Osama will never be captured. Bush doesn't want him. Osama is still a Bin Laden, even if his royal family has publicly denounced his terrorist actions. He still remains "of the BinLaden Family"..Bush will not kill off one of their blood.
Boston Globe has a great story..
We need to keep it alive..We need to DEMAND it gets deserved attention.
Bush and BinLaden family coup on Iraq, and America.
For the power of Oil. That's all it was to begin with.
Thats all it still is about. The rest is smokescreen.

What deals has Bush secretly made with the Saudis, that we will only know about years from now.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 02:32 AM
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19. Those aren't Vulcans in the White House!
Neocons are far too illogical for that. They're more like the BORG, with the greed of the Ferengi thrown in.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 12:16 AM
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15. This story needs to be forwarded to people more powerful than me!!
This should be the NEXT of Bush's "sins on America" that is loudly chanted across the airwaves until it gets answered...

Lying SOB G Bush*****Censure Bush NOW..sign moveon.org petition.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 12:59 AM
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16. Bush& BinLaden..Its All About the Oil..Always was
Bush's Overthrough of the US Govt. Office of the Presidency, for the Powers it afforded the Oil Cabal.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 01:56 AM
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17. What will the Bush administration's excuse be? Cast your predictions now.
How will the Bush administration explain the fact that they allowed Saudi nationals and Bin Laden family members to fly out of the US shortly after 9/11?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 02:37 AM
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20. I know one of these planes flew over my
house. After 9/11 the skies were so clear of aircraft, that one afternoon, I heard a huge roar and ran outside 2 see a passenger jet flying over the house - I am NOT in a flight path - I could only guess it was from Long Beach airport because of the low altitude. A friend in San Diego told me later that she hit the floor when she heard a plane fly over - she DOES live near SD airport and the total air silence was shattered by that plane.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:12 AM
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21. Well, we know that 9/11 was a surprise to the Saudi government also
because Bandi would have called his people home before the attack if he knew.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:30 AM
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24. One of Bush's* first oil ventures was financed by bin laden's...
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 08:30 AM by Q
...brother in law. The relationship between the Bush- Saudi/bin Laden families is welll-known...but the American media doesn't want to touch it or connect the dots.

- This is TREASON...if Bush* is discovered to have actually helped those who attacked America escape justice.
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:30 PM
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26. Waxman Letter to Ashcroft 4/12/04 Concerning 9/13/01 Flights
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:15 PM
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29. if he didn't have gallbladder probs B4
he will sure have more of them now!~
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