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sable302 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:34 PM
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Will the Madrid bombing
help Bush get the attention away from Iraq, and the lack of WMD etc..., and back on Osama? They've been saying it for weeks with all the 'Osama cornered' and 'new push to find Bin Laden' type headlines.

Terror attacks all seem to fit well with the president's playbook anyway.

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:35 PM
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1. This is a problem for Bush
He's spent billions of dollars and thousands of human lives fighting a war on terrorism that appears to have failed miserably.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 05:46 PM
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12. his actions have increased terrorism
how many terrorists has Bush Inc CREATED ?
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 05:54 PM
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14. Hmmm. He *could* say that this hasn't happened again in the US
because HE is on guard. That would be very risky, but I could see it paying off among certain voters.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:44 PM
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2. Breakdown
Whether or not it does, the fact that we have all become so cynical speaks volumes to the complete breakdown of trust and political discourse in Amerika.

Whoever wins in November will lead a fractured Nation.

O
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:49 PM
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5. You make a VERY good point .
The Repugs may very well have destroyed our country - permanently - with their antics since Reagan in the late 70s. I think there is a good argument to make for HIM as the worst president ever - he began this.
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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:55 PM
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8. i'd say it began with nixon
the only differences between him and reagan (and both bush's as well) is that they are more extreme and they learned from nixon's mistakes.
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sable302 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:53 PM
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7. agreed
but I am cynical. It makes me sad to think about it this way, but I just can't help it these days.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:59 PM
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10. Tinfoil Tunic
My post was not meant as an attack on you personally sable. I wear tinfoil long underwear. It is amazing to me that I distrust these Bush Bastards so much that my first thought after hearing about this latest atrocity was that they were behind this somehow.

It shows how far I have gone down the rabbit hole.

O
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:48 PM
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3. Maybe for a half hour or so.
The majority of Americans probably cannot locate Spain on a map and are not going to care at all about the two hundred or so who died. And since the reasons involve details of Spanish politics, they will care even less.

One of my first thoughts upon hearing the news, was that if something like that happened here, all the commuter trains across the country would be shut down indefinitely, which would play havoc with several million commuters. And of course since the people making the decision to shut down the trains themselves are driven to work in a car or limousine, they wouldn't care at all how disruptive that would be.
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dsewell Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:49 PM
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4. It should refocus attention on our need to be a good ally
If it turns out to be the work of Al Qaeda or a related group rather than ETA, it will be a pretty damning indictment of the effects of Bush Administration's tunnel vision in going after war in Iraq. Spain is supposed to be an ally, a "coalition partner"--and we won't have been able to cooperate with them closely enough to prevent this kind of insanity from happening in Madrid? It will also underline the moral viciousness of the Bush line that regime change in Iraq "takes the war against terror out of our backyard"--right, we'll push it off to Europe.

But whether it's ETA or an Al Qaeda-esque group, the real lesson of the Madrid bombing is that the USA needs to be a genuine partner to European nations, no more of this "coalition of the willing" bullshit, no more of this go-it-alone arrogance.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:50 PM
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6. Won't matter a bit because
Most Americans couldn't even find Spain on a map.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:57 PM
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9. LOL, reminds me of a joke during Gulf War 1
What's the difference between a smart bomb and an American high school student?

The smart bomb knows where Iraq is.
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punistation Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 05:43 PM
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11. A fearful Aussie gal.
BEFORE the war in Iraq, America promised it would make the world safer.

AFTER the war, America promised the world is safer.

...what happened?


We begged America: Saddam is no threat. Go after Al Qaeda. Go after Osama. What have you been doing these past 2 years?
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 05:49 PM
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13. it's bad for him if it is AQ
why?

he has claimed over and over and over and over that 'two-thirds of the al Qaeda leadership has been caught or killed'

of course, the insipid chimp has never offered an iota of evidence that's he done that but...

he wants to run on 'trust me to protect you' and, if it is aQ, it is bad for him.

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