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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 05:21 PM
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BBV -- some of the best quotes from the new Vanity Fair Article
Edited on Wed Mar-10-04 05:33 PM by BevHarris
This is worth the $4.50 cover price, folks. Go buy it -- lots of interview quotes never before seen, including one with a Finnish hacker and a whole new rendition of the Phil Foster (Sequoia) indictment, with details from his own brother-in-law.

* * * * * *

"Strangely, another function allowed anyone with access to the GEMS central server to create minus votes. Why...would there ever be cause to record negative votes in an electronic voting machine? Later, Diebold spokesman David Bear would offer this response:

"'Yes, negative votes can be entered into GEMS. If for some reason an election administrator determines they have a need to enter negative votes, that is for them to determine, and we do not believe the system should prevent that.'"

* * * * * *

"Here was a Diebold engineer admitting that the system was not secure. Not to mention encouraging the recipient of his memo to hide information from the labs. ('We don't have another version ,' says Diebold's David Bear when asked about Clark's memo. 'I don't know what he specifically meant..')

"Who was 'Jane'? And what did he mean by saying that the Access back door got 'people' out of a bind, and that 'King County is famous for it'? Did this mean that the back door through Microsoft Access could be used to tinker with vote tallies?"

* * * * * *

"If O'Dell was guilty of poor judgment, no one could accuse him of being a criminal. The same could not be said, Andy Stephenson soon determined ... of everyone who worked for Diebold Election Systems and the company it had purchased in 2002, Texas-based G.E.S.

"One director of G.E.S., Michael K. Graye, was arrested in 1996 in Canada on tax-fraud and money-laundering charges that involved $18 million. Before he could be sentenced, he was indicted in the U.S. for stock fraud. He shuttled between prisons in New York and Ontario for 18 months, before pleading guilty in April 2003 to the tax-fraud charges in Canada.

"After Graye had left G.E.S., it operated without further taint for some time. but strangely, in 2000, G.E.S. hired Jeffrey Dean as a senior vice president, according to S.E.C. filings, despite the fact that he had served time on 23 felony counts of embezzlement involving, as a court document cites, 'a high degree of sophisticattion and planning in the use and alteration of records in the computerized accounting system that defendant maintained for the victim...

"one of Dean's realms of responsibility was King County, Washington. Was it the same King County famous for 'fancy footwork,' according to Diebold engineer Ken Clark? Almost certainly, given that this was the only King County served by Diebold machines..."

"'Now, imagine,' says Harris, 'there's only about 20 guys in Vancouver. If (G.E.S.) wanted to clean up their act, why hire another shady character? And then his friend, John Elder? At that point you've lost me.'

"Elder...is a convicted cocaine trafficker who served nearly five years in the same prison where Dean was incarcerated. Not long after Dean joined G.E.S., his fellow ex-con came aboard to oversee the printing of paper ballots and punch cards produced for several states.

* * * * * *

(and, quoting Georgia's Rob Behler):

"'They had stacks and stacks of machines on pallets that had failed, bombed out. I went down to the DeKalb County warehouse, one of the larger ones, with Greg Loe, second in charge to Diebold president Bob Urosevich, he and I together, because he wanted to see the machines. I had explained, 'Don't expect a lot--they're broke, man. They do crazy crap, and they don't do the same crazy crap twice.'

"...at the company's direction, he assembled two "SWAT" teams of five or six people each to go in vans...to debug the machines before Williams and his team got to them. 'Wherever they were headed,' Behler says, 'we'd get ahead of them and try to lower the failure rate...'"

* * * * *

"'Think of D.E.S. as a door-key system,' (Dr. Doug) Jones explains. 'Everyone who wants to use my door needs a copy of the same key.' That, he explains, is the issue of 'key management.' Other doors would need keys of their own. But not Diebold's.

"'Diebold was using the same key for every bit of encrypted code,' he marvels. 'In other words, my office-door key was being used for every door in the university!'"

(By the way, the issue of the hard-coded password and the inappropriate use of D.E.S. was FIRST exposed right here on Democratic Underground. One of the people who first posted a detailed description of this was someone I've seen posting here in the last couple days. Democratic Underground "broke" the news on this more than a month before the famous Johns Hopkins/Rice report with Avi Rubin et. al.)

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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 05:29 PM
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1. Holy Flurking Snit.....
Have been so glad to see Kerry making mention of this issue and specifially talking about Florida. I have written to the (Repugnican) Sec'y of State here in MN and have gotten only the stock response about wanting to maintain integrity of elections but I think there are some concerns here in MN particularly in urban areas where they are more likely to have the electronic machines than the places out here in the sticks...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 05:41 PM
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2. Is it on the news stand now?
I will get two as soon as I can. One for me and one for Don Wright, BBV apologist for the state of NC. Great going Bev and Andy! :)
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 05:43 PM
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4. Yes -- it's on the newsstands, just went out today. Make sure you
check to see that it's the APRIL issue.

Bev
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 07:40 PM
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11. Not at Borders in Berlin, MA, today.
March issue still on display. :( Will check again tomorrow.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 05:43 PM
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3. I still can't believe this issue is where it is today...
thanks, Bev, once again --
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 05:45 PM
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5. Reminds me of my servers today
'Don't expect a lot--they're broke, man. They do crazy crap, and they don't do the same crazy crap twice.'

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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 06:59 PM
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7. Just what kind of restaurants are you eating at, man?
Oh, oh,

That kind of server.

:beer:

I'm just sitting around here waiting for the news truck to arrive with April's Vanity Fair.
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:55 PM
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15. Waiting until tomorrow....
....for the magazine, too.

Went to two stores today, nothing.

What you get for being "out of town." (And town is no metro area, either!)
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 05:09 PM
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19. I got mine this morning...
Sweet.
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 08:40 PM
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14. That one made me laugh out loud.
Rob has been one of the real heroes of this story.

Bev
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thingfish Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 05:59 PM
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6. Madame, thank you for everything you're doing.
You're a magnificent human being.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 07:04 PM
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8. kick
:kick:
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 07:08 PM
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9. wow
incredible, great work bev and crew :toast:

peace
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 07:14 PM
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10. My Favorite is
"But if O'Dell was guilty of poor judgement. No one could call him a criminal. The same could not be said, Harris's colleague Andy Stephenson soon determined from the Diebold memos, of everyone that worked for Diebold Election Systems and the company it had purchased in 2002, Texas based G.E.S."


OK OK it is not a great quote...but I am really psyched to see my name in OMFG Vanity Fair!

Waaaaahooooo

:)
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 07:42 PM
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12. WTFG, Andy.
Edited on Wed Mar-10-04 07:42 PM by gristy
Too cool. But too bad they didn't refer to you as "Harris collegue and WA State SOS candidate".
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 07:49 PM
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13. It's ok
Edited on Wed Mar-10-04 08:24 PM by God_bush_n_cheney
My opponent Ms what's her name...can claim she has championed a bill in the state legislature. Unfortunately she chose to champion the wrong one. She has done nothing to further the cause and in fact was an obstacle to meaningful reforms.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:39 AM
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16. just finished the article with my AM coffee
and it is quite a read.

not TOO many surprises for DU/BBV but... still worth it. (and a faboo pic of Bev too)

this struck me as a jaw-dropper:

"To our knowledge," Usosevich (Diebold) adds, "there has not been an electronic voting system that has not recorded votes. and has not through recounts and audit logs proved to be 100 percent of what the voters' intent was."

without physical BALLOTS, 'recounts' are impossible.

without physical BALLOTS, 'voters' intent' cannot be determined.

Usosevich is 'full of it'
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 10:31 AM
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17. BBV on CNN's home page | Graham/Clinto introduce "ballot" bill
BBV took on MAJOR legs this week. don't forget to read the April Vanity Fair (on sale now). 10,000 word story on BBV, Bev Harris (great photo too!), Diebold, lots and lots of juice!



WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bob Graham called Wednesday for a paper trail to back up electronic voting throughout the country.

The Democratic senators told reporters a bill they have drafted calls for every jurisdiction to have machines that produce paper records that would enable recounts.
<snip>
"Yesterday in Palm Beach County, Florida, the 'oops' factor again reared its ugly head, casting doubt in the minds of many Floridians about whether or not their vote was actually counted," Graham said.
<snip>
Graham represents Florida, which held its presidential preference primary Tuesday. Balloting problems in that state four years ago put the presidential election in dispute until it was resolved by the U.S. Supreme Court.

He pointed out that after vote-counting "irregularities" in Bay County, officials there were able to pursue a recount because they were still operating with the old paper-ballot system.

"These problems raise the fundamental issue of a citizen's confidence in the voting process," Graham said.

more


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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 11:13 AM
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18. slow DU day for BBV stories.... KICK n/t
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 04:20 PM
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20. Finally got a copy of Vanity Fair
What I like, is the set-up by Doug Jones at the end. And entirely true.

You don't "hack" a system and tip your hand with trivial stuff.

You lull everyone into a false sense of security and then strike.

The big issue on hacking may not be the 2004 election, although it is a crucial election.

The big use of hacking could come in 2008, when with either Jeb or Chuck Nagel running. Let the storm die down, let people forget.

Which is why we've got to get the paper ballots that are verified by the voter AND procedure and accounting in place- with penalies for those who don't follow the law.

BEST article yet on BBV. Remember to thank Vanity Fair by suscribing, tell them why, and say you want more.

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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:19 PM
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21. Im a VF subscriber, but I went to the store and got it anyway
because I didnt want to wait.***

In a word, it was fantastic. I agree it is the best article written about electronic voting as of yet.

I know this gets old to hear, but I am SO INCREDIBLY IMPRESSED, APPRECIATIVE AND GRATEFUL to Bev Harris,

she has been unbelievably steadfast, determined, courageous, smart, committed, tenaceous to get this incredibly huge elephant on the map.

The issue affects every single American and no doubt is the most important issue facing our Democracy.

I think its safe to say we owe a tremendous amount of gratitude to her (and of course others who have been involved on this issue since day one - I wanted to say a specific thanks however for all the work and the overall initiative taken by Bev).
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:38 PM
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22. don't miss "Macbush" in the same issue...
brilliant!
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:38 PM
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23. Yowsa! Everywhere I turn, I see BBV and Bev
Waiting by the mailbox for my VF.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:48 PM
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24. Amazing!!
Not that I am really amazed. Because I knew that this issue would come this far. But it is amazing to have sat here and watched it all unfold on DU. History in the making.

People, this is an example of how true Democracy works. One person, then two, then twenty, then twenty thousand, then....

It CAN be done. We can DU it.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:54 PM
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26. Youre right, it is true Democracy in action*******
and we can DU it.

:)
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:52 PM
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25. Well, gbnc, you won the race
You got in Vanity Fair before I did. :D

:toast:
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:09 PM
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27. Thanks for the post, will get it and inform my friends.......
:thumbsup: I'm so grateful for all your work.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 02:33 AM
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28. The Seattle Weekly was a killer article Bev.
Thanks for the effort.
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