If fast food joints are defined as manufacturers what about the 4 Seasons?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

and other top restaurants. They're doing the same thing. This is fucking insane! Lies and tax-breaks for all - just give me 4 more years (and maybe we can get rid of term limits).

[Drifter]

1. And what about hookers ...

aren't they manfacturing pleasure, or fantasy.

With logic like that, every "job" that exists can be considered manufacturing.

Cheers
Drifter

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

2. the bushies define manufacturing as mechanicaly, chemicaly combining

two or more substances into a product (I'm paraphrasing). I say hookers are mechanicly and chemicly combining hormones and bodies to produce orgasms. We're all manufacturers of something! I manufacture many of my own orgasms - give me a tax break!

[lapislzi]

5. You're not contributing to the economy by doing that

You need to sell it to someone else to qualify for a tax break. You're a closed system, so to speak.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

6. good point - I'll cut my own taxes! There, I fast tracked it!

I was just pointing out how silly this is

[Andy_Stephenson]

27. Unless your orgasm is producing over 200k

in income...you don't qualify for a tax break

[SoCalDem]

3. gas stations...

manufacture.."movement"

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

4. Woo hoo - TAX BREAKS FOR ALL MY FELLOW MANUFACTURERS!!!

It's miller time!!!!!

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

25. actually it would be better to be a lobyist - lets figure one out for that

then we could be doing what we do now and actually get some political action out of it. It all seems to depend on the definition. I know DU has some creative minds out there. Let's counteract this!!!

[zbdent]

7. Could I be paid to eat out

if I go to a buffet?

What's the pay scale?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

8. You should.

But not under the protection of any union - you're a part time employee - try to organize and you'll be shown the door

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

9. actually I think you'd be a sub-contractor

therefore have fun finding insurance for your new business

[zbdent]

10. Please, like any good Repuke . . .

I'd be paid "under the table".

Besides, I ain't quitting my day job.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

11. you don't happen to be an illegal alien do you?

I've got a great idea for you, if so

[zbdent]

26. Sorry, I'm just an alien

Or so my high-school classmates seemed to believe.

Nope, been a legal resident of the USA since conception. I don't even think I visited Canada while still a collection of cells.

[RandomKoolzip]

12. Hey JB: gimme a link, man!

I manufacture ill will. And you ungrateful bastards aren't properly compensating me!

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

14. Got no link for this, heard it on the radio. I'll find you one

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

15. Here's a link

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18079

[RandomKoolzip]

17. whoops-deleted due to bad eyesight

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

18. in all honesty I haven't had much time to really research it

My breif research shows that this is sa legit idea being tossed around and lobbyed for. And after reading Fast Food Nation it isn't even remotely far fetched. It's a hilarious idea though. When I have a sec - I'll do some real investigation.

[RandomKoolzip]

19. I saw this same thing in The Nation, too....

Supposedly it's on Page 73 of "the President's Economic Report," but until I actually see it with me own orbs in print, I dunno....

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

20. found this at the San Francisco Chronicle

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/03/07/BUGMJ5F97N1.DTL&type=business

[NewJeffCT]

13. Life Insurance

Believe it or not, I worked in the financial department of a large insurance company until about a year ago and went to a meeting where the Life Insurance department head referred to "manufacturing" life insurance policies - selling the policy, going through underwriting, putting together a package for the proposal, etc.

I rolled my eyes at that one!

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

16. I work in an international financial services company

I wouldn't be surprised if we're manufacturing money, somehow, insomebody's mind

[smirkymonkey]

21. Poor people don't go to the Four Seasons...

or work at the Four Seasons. Could you see a snooty, upscale NY restaurant waiter being told that he now belonged to the "manufacturing" sector?? Hell hath no fury....

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

22. I could hear an underpaid immigrant or illegal alien being told this

and having no power to do anything about it. And if you don't think these people work at the Four Seasons, oh boy! The waiters would be PR/sales people for these manufacturing firms

[RandomKoolzip]

23. Uhhh....go in the kitchen.....

Many "upscale" restaurants (and justt about every other kind of restaurant) evrywhere in the US will only hire Mexican immigrants now, because they're willing to work for three or four bucks less an hour than a gringo or a black person. Sorry, but it's true; I'm a cook, so I know this....you would not BELIEVE the times I've had in the last year, watching my pay rate go down so hat I'm getting paid less now to do MORE work and harder work than I did five years ago....

Seriously, GO TO THE KITCHEN.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

24. When I was in school in Manhattan 5 years ago (and I'm sure now as well)

all over the city Immigrant workers were picketing upscale restaurants. That was the Giuliani days, guess how well they were doing?