WTF...Bush Announces "Bold" New Job Plan for India:

[cthrumatrix]

Here's a gem. I'm sure everyone in America is proud of our leader. Please share with your local republican who refuses to see that this man is ruining our country.


February 16, 2003
NEWS ANALYSIS ARCHIVES

Bush Announces "Bold" New Job Plan for India:
GOP Hires 75 Telephone Marketers in New Delhi Suburb to Raise Funds for the Republicans, Exporting Away American Jobs

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS

Karl Rove has been using the word "bold" lately as spin to cover up the dreadful reality of most of Bush's proposals in recent weeks, including his deficit time bomb of an economic plan.

So it may be no surprise that Bush has launched, surreptitiously, a "bold" new jobs programs for telemarketers in India. Of course, this "bold" program means that these 75 jobs have been lost to American workers in need.

And what will this "band of young and enthusiastic fundraisers " be doing for the Bush GOP Cartel? Why raising money for the Republican coffers, of course.

snip....
http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/02/16_India.html

[expatriot]

1. oh my god.... and US telemarketers are about to be laid off en masse.....

wowzers.... Rove miscalculated here....

[cthrumatrix]

2. And when you lose your job he has a plan......has anyone seen this?

"My Administration is also providing assistance to help trade-impacted workers adapt to the challenge of international competition. The Trade Adjustment Assistance program helps trade-impacted workers gain or enhance job-related skills and find new jobs. The program provides eligible workers with up to 2 years of training, income support during training, job search assistance, and relocation allowances."

http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov/wwwhpr0519.html

What's the budgeting...? who has recieved this..? Is it bullshit?

[ima_sinnic]

3. wtf? so let's hold him to it

. . . my head hurts after reading these 2 articles--see the original source for the buzzflash story:

http://www.business-standard.com/archives/2003/jan/50310103.016.asp

<snip>

The Republican contract comes on the heels of a successful anti-abortion campaign run by HCL eServe for a US politician.

HCL eServe is building additional capacity in view of an expected growth in business. It is giving final touches to two new facilities — a 1,200-seat centre in Noida and a 700-seat centre in Chennai. . . .

</snip>

(HCL eServe is "the business process outsourcing arm of HCL Technologies," an Indian IT empire)

buzzflash asks in their update (mentioning that RNC denies this story) "if the RNC or any Republican fundraising committee in the United States has retained, now or in the past, HCL to fundraise using telemarketers in India?" The anti-abortion campaign, if true, says yes.

btw, I just noticed the dates on these: February 2003--that might explain why the Indian corporation would invest in telemarketing facilities--the Do Not Call law hadn't even been proposed then, had it?

[punpirate]

4. Bush is taking credit for the program...

... but it's been in effect for almost forty years (although it's been modified considerably over the years).

More info here:

http://www.miami.edu/nsc/publications/pub-ap-pdf/43AP.pdf

Cheers.

[TheBigGuy]

5. Im sorry, but this is really, really crass.

telemarketing is sort of the bottom of the barrel when it comes to jobs (at least thats how I see it), and now the GOP is outsourcing even these jobs overseas,
.
...when they could have hired some bubbas and bubette republicans out in the red states somewhere, cheap, to do this call center work.

[MUAD_DIB]

6. Just thought of something.

If you are a an overseas telemarketer does that mean that you need not follow the new national Do Not Call List, and if this is the case then it doesn't it make perfect Republican sense?

[SummerGrace]

7. Calls from overseas are covered but

calls for political contributions are not.

32. Are telemarketing calls from overseas covered?
Yes. Any telemarketers calling U.S. consumers are covered, regardless of where they are calling from. If a company within the U.S. solicits sales through an overseas professional telemarketer, that U.S. company is liable for any violations by the telemarketer. The FTC can initiate enforcement actions against such companies.

28. I get calls soliciting money for political organizations or for charities - will the National Do Not Call Registry stop those calls?
Political solicitations are not covered by the National Do Not Call Registry. Telemarketers calling to solicit charitable contributions are not covered by the registry, but if you make a request to a specific organization that they not call you, they are required to honor your request. If they subsequently call you again, they may be subject to a fine of up to $11,000.
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/alerts/dncalrt.htm

[punpirate]

11. Hmm... Congress took care...

... of themselves in that legislation, didn't they?

Cheers.

[punpirate]

9. Umm, not sure, but...

... if the Republicans hired them, they are aware of the law in this country. If they sought to evade the law by using a foreign firm, someone could always file complaints with the Commerce Dept. and the Consumer Protection Agency. I don't see why you couldn't go after an American client if the firm they hired was overseas and calling exclusively for that client in the U.S.

On edit, I'll have to correct the above based on the previous message. So, if they aren't going to India to get around the "Do Not Call" penalties, then they're just cheap labor conservatives trying to squeeze out a few bucks in their telemarketing budget. Geez, these people raise more money than God, but they hire Indian firms for telemarketing. That's chutzpah!

Cheers.

[HawkerHurricane]

8. HEY! How about a Bold New Jobs Plan for

The United States!
(I'll be unemployed in Feb 04, and I would really like to find some work...cheap labor conservatives chap my hide)

[punpirate]

10. Twenty and out?

What's your present rate? I'm losing a job myself, but I might have some suggestions.

Cheers.

[HawkerHurricane]

12. I'm in a extreme low tech rate

I've done police work (didn't like it) and QA (which I did). Working on my History Degree. 1/2 pay retirement is really 1/3 pay, since it's only 1/2 of base pay, without bonuses (sea pay, housing allowance, etc.)

[Starpass]

13. ahhhh--a little exposure of this from Dems would be nice

I just hope they don't have some "Indians" in there closet, too......It would be nice,though, if this could be brought to the attention of some of our candidates.

[whoYaCallinAlib]

14. Rove is losing his mind.

If he doesn't see this as an outright PR disaster, he has lost touch with reality.

[Norbert]

15. Bu$h actually though he was doing a good thing

in producig American jobs.

He thought India was a midwestern state.

[Tom Kitten]

16. Ah, for the days of Imperial Rome!

At least they had public vomitoriums, albeit for a different reason.
I guess we should feel lucky. A Bush "bold" new job plan for America would probably consist entirely of eliminating any and all taxes for the upper 1 percent, thereby freeing up money for investing in, well I guess third world countries like Bangladesh and Indonesia and Malaysia...so they can produce electronics and other goods cheap enough that any burger-flipping head of household can easily afford on time payments. And then, providing they work double shifts, or moonlight, they might be able to afford cable tv so they can watch Fox News Network and rail against the foreigners who are stealing their jobs...

Please excuse me I'm feeling mighty cynical today, I got a phone solicitation Saturday at 8 am, and now I just say, "I don't accept phone solicitations" and hang up before they say "but..."

I guess I have a bunch of inner anger to deal with...

[yakmoe]

17. We are the world

Bush is the NWO (new world order) usher. :argh: