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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:53 PM
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Question about Reagan-era tax cuts...?
I'm too young to know...

When Reagan cut taxes...did people get checks in the mail like they have on 2 occasions durning Bush's administration?

It just seems like Bush was buying votes...
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:56 PM
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1. I'm too old to remember
Just kidding. No, I don't remember any checks. I could be wrong. It was a while ago.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:57 PM
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2. No checks
We got umbrellas for the trickle down. ;)
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MacCovern Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:00 PM
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3. No checks in the mail in the 1980's
Nope. I was just a teenager when those tax cuts went into effect, but
there were no tax refund checks in the mail.

One thing that is forgotten about those tax cuts is how drastically
the tax code changed. The tax brackets were lowered, BUT many write-offs were discontinued (some good, some bad). No longer could you deduct credit card interest, average your income over a period of several years to lower your current year taxes, etc.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:29 PM
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19. No longer could deduct sales taxes either.
It reduced our (middle-class) deductions quite a bit. Plus we had three kids in college and got no deductions for them.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:34 PM
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7. ...but no 600 dollar checks?
...tax cuts provide relief to a struggling economy...

They well may - but does a "tax cut" imply a need to send a check to every Amercian? From the replies...I don't think that's how Reagan did it...

...when you file your tax return you get a check from the government and the size of the check is determined by how much money you make...

I'm not refering to your yearly tax return! I'm talking about the 600 dollar checks that BushCo has issued on 2 occasions...these checks were issued independently of any tax returns.

And no, I don't remember the Great Depression...heard about though. I thought the Smoot-Hawley tarrif happend after the Depression had began? The stock market crashed in 1929...Smoot-Hawley didn't happen until 1930
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:48 PM
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10. Yeah, the economy is really 'rouring', PandaPoo2
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 08:55 PM by RationalRose
only 1,000 jobs were created in December-the height of the Christmas hiring season. :eyes:

On edit: Kraft just announced it's laying off 6,000. Here's a :toast: to your 'rouring' economy!

Learn how to spell while you're at it!
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:50 PM
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11. I thought PandaPoo meant...
the deficit!!!
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:54 PM
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12. ??????
roaring economy we have now????????

after you file your return you get a check ONLY if too much withholding tax was taken out of your pay

???????????????????
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:00 PM
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14. ummm
nevermind

Oh, welcome to DU.

What do you think about Bush's new massive tax increases? Debt is a tax you know.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:14 PM
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5. No, we just saw the next paycheck climb, usually by less than a dollar.
Those of us who were able to do the math realized Reagan was cutting our taxes by pennies, but cutting the taxes on his own fortune by nearly a million. Yes, we saw those paychecks rise by a few cents. No, it didn't do any of us any good.

Then, as the tide of red ink began to rise, he doubled FICA, supposedly to create a trust fund for social security, but really putting most of the hike into the general fund, where it could be used to fudge the books. Thanks to Reagan and continued Congressional robbery, the country owes social security TEN TRILLION DOLLARS. Do you really think they're going to tap the fat cats to get that money paid back? Do you think the Red Sox will ever win a World Series again?

Reagan effectively shifted the burden of government away from wealth and onto labor, exactly the opposite of what was originally intended. May he rot in hell.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:32 PM
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6. No checks. And it wasn't a tax cut - it was an increase
for the middle class. Yes, the lowered the actual tax rate, but they got rid of all the deductions or added the percentage crap that if you bills are bigger than x% you can take them off your taxes.

I was going to buy a house at that time. I got a hold of the tax "cut" rules and found out I'd get killed if I bought that particular house. I had one friend who is a Democrat and stays up with what's going on. He claimed it was a tax cut. I ask him how much he got back - he ended up paying $3000 more a year. The middle class got royally screwed on that one.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:40 PM
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8. Intaxication?
Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you
realize it was your money to start with!

(apologies to the Washington Post)
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Overkil Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:43 PM
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9. My dad credits (in part) the reagan tax cuts.......
for spurring the economy at the same time he started his engineering firm. They just celebrated 21 yrs in business. Go Brooks Engineering and Surveying, Inc. !!
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:57 PM
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13. The '80s were an awful time for a lot of working people
unions busted, layoffs, decreasing standard of living.

Very few benefitted-you're father's ingenuity probably spurred his business, not the tax cuts.
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Mormegil42 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:12 PM
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16. How where you doing
in 1987?
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:21 PM
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18. My family was struggling.
And you?
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Mormegil42 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:08 PM
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15. No they didn't
Presidents didn't do retroactive tax cuts. That started under the current President Bush in response to President Clinton's retroactive tax increases in 1992.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:16 PM
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17. So you are saying...?
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 09:17 PM by hexola
...that the BushCo tax cut was nothing more than a political middle finger to Clinton...?
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