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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:26 AM
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Tea Party cools as Keynes makes a comeback {don't miss the tea party comments}
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/30/tea-party-cools-as-keynes-makes-a-comeback/

Is the Tea Party running out of steam? I ask because there appears to be growing evidence that the Mad Hatters’ wild ride, culminating in Obama’s defeat last month over the debt ceiling at the hands of the Tea Party in Congress, has slowed to a trot. Exhibit one, the entrails of the most recent Pew poll where there is a startling finding. Just two months ago, those who believed trimming the deficit was the nation’s top priority outnumbered those who wanted more spending “to help the economy recover” by ten percent. Today, the number who advocate more government spending to fix the lackluster economy are neck and neck with those who wish to cut the budget deficit without delay.

Why the shift? Well, it seems that some Americans have changed their minds over the issue that lies at the heart of our politics. Today’s great political debate divides along the lines established eighty years ago by John Maynard Keynes and Friedrich Hayek. In 1932, when one in four Americans was out of work, Keynes suggested a mixture of policies to pump money into the economy to increase demand and get people back into jobs: keep the cost of borrowing cheap so that businesses could expand; invest in public works that directly employs the jobless; and cut taxes to put cash into people’s pockets. Hayek countered that such expansionist policies were unlikely to work and would have unintended consequences. At the very least they would in the long run fuel inflation and, when the government took its foot off the gas, cause businesses artificially boosted by the measures to go bust.

When Obama was elected in November 2008 he faced an economy that was teetering on disaster. His answer was a Keynesian stimulus package that meant plunging the nation even deeper into debt than George W. Bush had left it after bailing out the banks, enacting a huge tax cut and funding two overseas wars. No sooner had Obama adopted a Keynesian remedy than some of his opponents demanded a Hayekian antidote: paying down the debt as soon as possible. This outbreak of electors’ remorse gave rise to the Tea Party whose argument appeared to be that if a family has to pay off its overdrafts and credit card borrowings when it is going bankrupt, surely a nation should do the same. The 2010 midterms saw the election of a wave of Tea Party candidates, most of whom had pledged not to agree to anything that would either raise taxes or fail to address the national deficit. The raising of the debt ceiling, which had always been a routine matter between the two parties, became a pitched battle, with the president having to bow to the Tea Party’s principles or allow America to default on its debts.

But the tide may well have turned. If the trend Pew has spotted is genuine and continuing, what a month ago seemed like Obama’s Waterloo is looking increasingly like the Tea Party’s Chancellorsville. The devil is in the details. Not surprisingly, Democrats still favor spending over cuts by two to one. Nor has the Tea Party shifted: four out of five thought deficit reduction the most important issue in June; the same proportion thinks so today. But moderate Republicans have shifted. While two months ago they divided two to one in favor of cuts over spending, now they divide 55 percent to 40. Independents, too, are on the move. Two months ago they favored deficit reduction by 54 percent to 39; today they are evenly divided.





***a stimulous package that is mostly tax breaks isn't really keynes, imo.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:34 AM
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1. These media bullshit offensives are self-limiting, they never last.
I can hardly wait for what comes next.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:37 AM
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2. ...
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:50 AM
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3. CBO says 2.9 million owe their jobs to stimulus
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 10:13 AM
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4. Sorry, but one poll is not a "trend"
Still, deadlines to meet, pages to fill and all that.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 12:43 PM
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5. None of the "stimulus" so far have really been a stimulus. They were reimbursement of gambling debt
Putting that much money into the economy wold have started a good recovery by now.

We are either being lied to by the 'experts' or they are incompetent. More than likely both
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