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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:08 AM
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There's a hole in this possible earthquake pattern The Mogi doughnut hypothesis, developed by a
There's a hole in this possible earthquake pattern
The Mogi doughnut hypothesis, developed by a Japanese seismologist, holds that earthquakes occur in a circular pattern over decades, building up to one very large temblor in the doughnut hole.
By Rong-Gong Lin II and Hector Becerra, Los Angeles Times July 18, 2010

http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/scimedemail/la-me-earthquake-forecast-20100718,0,3135459,full.story

As UC Davis physicist and geologist John Rundle ponders the map of recent California earthquakes, he sees visions of a doughnut even Homer J. Simpson wouldn't like. The doughnut is formed by pinpointing the recent quakes near Eureka, Mexicali and Palm Springs. Seismologists call the possible pattern a Mogi doughnut. It's the outgrowth of a concept, developed in Japan, which holds that earthquakes sometimes occur in a circular pattern over decades —building up to one very large quake in the doughnut hole. Rundle and his colleagues believe that the recent quakes, combined with larger seismic events including the 1989 Loma Prieta and 1994 Northridge temblors, could be precursors to a far larger rupture. They just don't know exactly when. The idea of predicting earthquakes remains controversial and much debated among California's many seismologists. But as technology improves and the understanding of how earthquakes distribute energy grows, experts are gingerly offering improved "forecasts," some of which have been surprisingly prescient.

For example, Southern California was hit earlier this month by a 5.4 quake that struck in the mountains about 30 miles south of Palm Springs — several weeks after seismologists at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and elsewhere warned that pressure was building in the San Jacinto fault zone, which is where the temblor occurred. That forecast underscores new thinking by seismologists about how earthquakes occur. In the past, experts paid less attention to how one fault was connected to another and how one earthquake could increase the chances of a quake on another fault. But now they believe that these connections are extremely important and that this year's temblors along the Mexican border and near Palm Springs seem to support the concept.

"Previously we would identify a fault, map it and name it," said Lisa Grant Ludwig, a UC Irvine earthquake expert. "What we've really got here is a network of faults. Maybe that's what we need to be thinking: more big-picture." Seismologists made the forecast about the quake risk south of the Palm Springs area after seeing signs that the 7.2 Mexicali temblor in April had placed more pressure on the San Jacinto fault system, which extends from the border northwest 100 miles toward Riverside and San Bernardino. They were particularly concerned because the San Jacinto fault system connects to the massive 800-mile-long San Andreas fault, which last triggered the "Big One" in Southern California in 1857, leaving a trail of destruction from Central California to the Cajon Pass in the Inland Empire.



Map From
http://www.data.scec.org/index.html
One thing I have noticed is the areas that are related to volcanic activity; Mammoth Lakes, The Geysers, the Salton Sea and Coso, have been more active lately! Lots of magma moving under there.


David Bowman, a geology professor at Cal State Fullerton, said his research indicates that the Mexicali quake — the largest to strike the region in nearly two decades — was actually triggered by a much smaller quake on a unnamed fault line. The small quake's energy "jumped on another fault and kept on going," causing the much larger Mexicali temblor that was felt all the way to Fresno. "That fault the earthquake started on is so small, we don't even really know where it is. Yet that small earthquake — that would not have made the news at all — was able to jump onto another fault and become a magnitude 7.2 event," he said. The big question is whether the Mexicali quake has made a destructive temblor in the L.A. area more likely. Experts see strong evidence that there is more pressure now on the San Jacinto and nearby Elsinore fault networks to the east of Los Angeles. The Elsinore fault zone is connected to the Whittier fault, which runs through densely populated sections of the L.A. area, including the San Gabriel Valley. As a result, there's a concern that a quake on the Whittier fault might be more likely.

The Mexicali quake has also turned into a treasure trove of data for earthquake experts. It comes at a time when quake technology has advanced in major ways. Sophisticated satellite images are being used to study creeping ground movement caused by tectonic pressure in advance of an earthquake. New GPS ground monitoring equipment is tracking how far the ground has moved after a quake, allowing scientists to calculate locations of greater seismic stress. And research in the mountains west of Bakersfield, examining the tracks of earthquakes hundreds of years ago, is showing that catastrophic earthquakes — those as large as magnitude 8 — have occurred in Southern California more frequently than previously believed.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:18 AM
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1. Predicting earthquakes is easy - There will be many earthquakes in California today
Most of them will occur on or near known faults.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:31 AM
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2. and THE BIG ONE will happen
some time. Possibly.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:01 PM
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3. Does this mean we'll lose Orange County and all the rich Republicans in it? nt
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:17 PM
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6. ha! probably not or "no such luck"
The Whittier fault would hurt central L.A. and the folks on th lower end of the socio-economic scale. :(

I live up north and we worry about not just the San Andreas but the Hayward fault. I live pretty close to that one.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:16 PM
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4. There's a hole in this possible earthquake pattern (LA Times)
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 12:33 PM by pinto
Interesting piece on the current state of earthquake "prediction" ~ pinto

There's a hole in this possible earthquake pattern

The Mogi doughnut hypothesis, developed by a Japanese seismologist, holds that earthquakes occur in a circular pattern over decades, building up to one very large temblor in the doughnut hole.

By Rong-Gong Lin II and Hector Becerra, Los Angeles Times
July 18, 2010



As UC Davis physicist and geologist John Rundle ponders the map of recent California earthquakes, he sees visions of a doughnut even Homer J. Simpson wouldn't like.

The doughnut is formed by pinpointing the recent quakes near Eureka, Mexicali and Palm Springs.

Seismologists call the possible pattern a Mogi doughnut. It's the outgrowth of a concept, developed in Japan, which holds that earthquakes sometimes occur in a circular pattern over decades —building up to one very large quake in the doughnut hole. Rundle and his colleagues believe that the recent quakes, combined with larger seismic events including the 1989 Loma Prieta and 1994 Northridge temblors, could be precursors to a far larger rupture.

They just don't know exactly when.

much more at:

http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/scimedemail/la-me-earthquake-forecast-20100718,0,1789070.story

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:16 PM
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5. Maybe everything is a lot more fragile than we think huh?
Enjoy life while u can.
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