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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:34 AM
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Children tortured before parents, raped, all covered up by Bush/Cheney and our media

Perhaps the worst incident at Abu Ghraib involved a girl aged 12 or 13 who screamed for help to her brother in an upper cell while stripped naked and beaten. Iraqi journalist Suhaib Badr-Addin al-Baz, who heard the girls screams, also witnessed an ill 15-year-old who was forced to run up and down with two heavy cans of water and beaten whenever he stopped. When he finally collapsed, guards stripped and poured cold water on him. Finally, a hooded man was brought in. When unhooded, the boy realized that the man was his father, who doubtless was being intimidated into confessing something upon sight of his brutalized son.

Empathy is what keeps men from becoming MONSTERS.

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MinistryOfTruth's diary :: :: They did it brazenly in front of other prisoners. Nothing but a sheet separated the sound of screaming and the torment of children.

This is how you create your own insurgency.

From this PDF obtained by The Washington Post I have transcribed a portion of an Iraqi detainees testimony to a Titan Corp translator detailing horror in Abu Gharib.

I saw REDACTED fucking a kid, his age would be about 15 - 18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard the screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn't covered, and I saw REDACTED who was in military uniform putting his dick in the little kids ass.


They put the sheets again on the door. Grainer and his helper they cuffed one prisoner in room #1, named REDACTED, he was an Iraqi citizen. They tied him to the bed and they were inserted the phosphoric light in his ass and he was yelling for God's help.

The web address on that PDF is How long they have had this info and neglected to report on it I cannot guess.

How much of a failure for our Democracy is it when the media covers up these war crimes, and instead gives us Dick and Liz Cheney to defend themselves and claim without opposition that these crimes were just fine and even necessary.

This statement was made by Kasim Mehaddi Hilas, who abused by Charles Grainer at Abu Ghraib and witnessed many photos being taken by soldiers in Abu Gharib. Many of those photos, I believe, that detail violent rape and torture are among those the Obama Administration refuses to make public.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 11:07 AM
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1. "He who does not punish evil commands it to be done"
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 01:00 PM
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2. It was reported on. Perhaps the author of this article
wasn't aware of that. The story of the 12 year-old-girl, witnessed by the journalist was posted all over the internet. I do not know if it was reported in the Washington Post, but airc, many stories were published on the back pages of that newspaper that didn't make it to TV or to the front page of any newspaper.

The sodomizing of young boys was reported in late 2003 and Sy Hersch spoke about it, according to people who were there, 'nervously'.

I saw Sy Hersch being interviewed on a TV news program several years ago. He looked terrified, a fact that the interviewer remarked on airc. He was asked after his dire statements of what was going on in this country 'What should we do' and his answer was 'Get another passport?' I wasn't sure if he was being fascitious or not, but he was trying to show how serious the situation was. His demeanor and his response to that question, scared me. I do not remember which program it was althought I think it was on MSNBC.

Sy Hersch has a lot of contacts in the Intelligence community. He has often hinted that many of them are very concerned about this country.

One thing is certain, this country can never make the claim that they did not know what was going on in their name. Most of this information was around, thanks to great independent reporters like Sy Hersch, Robert Fisk, Dahr Jamail (someone praised by Hersch btw) but their work never appeared in the MSM. However, that doesn't mean it was not accessible or that the MSM was unaware of it. I know that many of us sent their work to members of Congress.

When Obama said, eg, that he had just been given the information about the Iraqis suffocated in those containers, I was shocked. That too was a story reported widely on the Internet and in the British papers. He was online back then, airc. I wondered how he could have missed that horror story.

For years these monstrous stories have been documented yet Congress ignored them. Criminals like Negroponte were installed with major news organizations reporting that the 'Salvador Option' would be employed in Iraq. This news was not reported with the shock it should have evoked, but as a simple statement of fact.

Maybe we are too far gone down the path of darkness to pull back, I don't know, but the apathetic reaction to these horrific criminal acts, not to mention the 'analysis' and defense of them, even when they are revealed, doesn't give much hope.

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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 01:50 PM
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3. I screamed and ranted and posted about it then...
and am doing so again now. Why is this not main stream news? Why are we even allowing these people to own tv and radio and newspapers when they wont report the news?
We deserve all thats coming when we allow this to not be prosecuted to the fullest extent allowed by law.
The people that did this deserve life with no parole at the very least and this includes every politician and elected official that is allowing this.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 03:56 PM
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4. K&R
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