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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:33 PM
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Without a Public Option, It's Not Really "Reform"
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/18/744056/-Without-a-Public-Option,-Its-Not-Really-Reform

Without a Public Option, It's Not Really "Reform"

by Hunter

Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 10:56:03 AM PDT

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The only major sources of opposition to a public option are the insurance companies, because they believe -- rightly -- that such an option would cut into their profits, and "free market" ideologues who simply believe that the government can't possibly do anything right if it doesn't involve paving roads or shooting guns.

Without a public option, I'd rather we stop the absurd talk of "reform" and recognize that any bill passed would mainly be for show, but if we were to seriously consider a bill without such an option, I think the one healthcare reform that would make a difference is to cancel govt health insurance for all senators, representatives, cabinet members, etc.

It's been proposed many times, but I do think it's long past time. Have the very senators and representatives who are against public health insurance spend the next few years trying to get healthcare on their own like the rest of us -- waiting months to see doctors, having to comb through lists of doctors too see which specialists you are "allowed" to see, spending countless hours on the phone with insurance companies fighting over individual bills -- I absolutely believe you'll have them socializing all of healthcare, no matter how much the goddamn lobbyists spend to woo them. For most of us in the ranks of the self-employed or -- heaven forfend -- the wrong age bracket, it's that infuriating.

Again, I point out -- 76% of Americans want this "public option." That's a mandate, as close as you can possibly get in red-blue-purple-whatever America. The fact that we're struggling to find 51 senators willing to do what the public demands, rather than what the insurance companies want, demonstrates how badly even three-quarters of America can be outnumbered by the interests of a single industry.

Of course the Republicans aren't going to go along. They have refused to go along with anything, ever, period, and consider that a badge of honor. Of course it's going to be difficult to get Democrats who are beholden to the insurance industry to buck their lobbyists -- but that doesn't mean they should easily be able to block what 76% of the public is demanding.

Nobody said this was going to be easy. So quit whining about "bipartisanship", quit wringing your hands over how dreadfully difficult it's going to be, and get on with it. Solving America's very large and very real health insurance crisis is more important, and even prominent Democrats are shrugging their shoulders in defeat before the first real shots have been fired.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:45 PM
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1. big ed raged today on his radio today about the same thing....
tonight on his tv show he did the same thing with guests bernie sanders,bill press,and nancy skinner.

big ed laid it all out today on his radio and tv show.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:52 PM
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2. It's redecorating while the house is on fire. n/t
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:50 AM
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6. Or polishing the brass on the Titanic.
A favorite line of mine from Fight Club.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 01:17 AM
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3. Another survey showing overwhelming support for government public option with private insurance
Americans prefer the public option (67% favor), keeping private insurance for some alongside a public program, over a single payer plan (49% favor). Survey results are from April 2009.

http://www.kff.org/kaiserpolls/upload/7892.pdf

g. Having a national health plan in which all Americans would get their insurance from a single government plan
49% favor
47% oppose

h. Creating a public health insurance option similar to Medicare to compete with private health insurance plans
Favor: 67%
Oppose: 29%
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 05:43 AM
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4. We'll always have a 'public option' - if they don't pass one, then people
in need will walk into emergency rooms and not pay the bill. It will happen more routinely. The gov't will have to bail out the hospitals to keep them afloat. And it will still be the costliest system in the entire world.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 09:45 AM
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5. That's depressing, but I'm sure you're right. nt
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 01:26 PM
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7. Without a public option it is just a billion dollar windfall for the insurance industry.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 02:09 PM
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8. kind of like the healthy forests initiative or ghw's new world order
more bullshit from lying thieving politicians
at this point if you expected anything different from these people you are an utter and complete moron
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