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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 02:10 PM
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#1 Diary @ DailyKos Today: (4 Reasons) Osama Bin Laden Is a Dead Man by Cenk Uygur

By Cenk Uygur

Almost exactly three years ago . And a . Sometimes you can see the handwriting on the wall. Zarqawi had gotten careless and had also turned the local population against him, which I figured would eventually catch up with him. And it did. Now, I see similar handwriting on the wall for Osama bin Laden.

Here are the clues that Osama's days are numbered:

1. In one of his latest tapes, he was to his cause. This is not something that was part of the regular fare before. If they're desperate enough to attach that to a threat that was otherwise bragging about how they're going to rip us apart, then they might be running low on cash. It doesn't sound very menacing to beg for a handout. If they're running low on funds, then .

2. The as we speak. They've already cleared out the Swat valley. Bin Laden was so nervous about that, that he did a tape on the intricacies of Pakistani politics, . Gee, I wonder why he knows so much about Pakistan and cares so much about the army's movement into these tribal areas. He hears footsteps.

3. The Taliban who have traditionally protected Al Qaeda leadership have alienated the local population in Pakistan by carrying out a series of terrorist attacks against respected tribal leaders and innocent civilians. When you lose the local population, you're living on borrowed time.

4. We have a smart president. In the seven years after 9/11, the Bush administration could not for the life of them get the Pakistani government to move against the Taliban or Al Qaeda, who had taken shelter in northern Pakistan. They got almost no results in rooting out those forces from the Swat and Waziristan areas. I don't know if it's because they didn't know what they were doing or it was because .

But now we have a president who actually cares to get the job done and apparently knows how to do it. I say that because of the facts on the ground. A Pakistani government that was considered weak and ineffectual in the five months since Obama's inauguration has somehow been able to muster up a massive campaign against the Taliban and Al Qaeda in the north. I don't know what the Obama administration did behind the scenes to get this done, but they did it. ...

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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 02:14 PM
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1. All good news. We can get out of Afghanistan now.
The Pakistani government and army are finally doing the job.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 02:45 PM
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2. K&R
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 02:51 PM
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3. K&R
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:07 PM
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4. ummm didnt you read about it? Osoma is dead and has been dead
and will stay dead.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 10:32 PM
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9. It's never been confirmed either way.
Edited on Wed Jun-17-09 10:34 PM by ihavenobias
Regardless, Cenk's post has good information about the situation in Pakistan, the Taliban, etc.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 11:50 PM
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10. I missed that one.
Link?
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 11:50 PM
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11. K&R
Great read.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:35 AM
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12. Someone provided some links below.
But again, never confirmed 100% by a credible source.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 04:11 PM
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5. Smart analysis.
k & r
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 04:20 PM
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6. December 2001. Better late than never,
:)

Seriously, it was reported with an obit in an Egyptian paper, in Pakistan, in many international 'mainstream' reports and even here:

FOXNEWS.COM HOME > WORLD > NATIONAL
Report: Bin Laden Already Dead

Wednesday, December 26, 2001

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

China also reported it in 2001:

http://www.nationalreview.com/interrogatory/interrogatory102501b.shtml

Sorry, linked article in Chinese.

http://www.chinanews.com.cn/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Various other M$M links here:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.html?q=osama_dead.html

:hi:
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 05:31 PM
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7. If he isn't dead, he might as well be.
The organization he left behind is extraordinarily patient and we most probably will hear from them again. I hope not, but it could happen. Thanks for this analysis. Cenk rocks! K&R!
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 07:37 PM
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8. K&R
:kick:
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