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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 09:50 AM
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The "Hillary's Resume" email- I just got it (you will too) and responded as such
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 09:55 AM by underpants
The original email is below my response.

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I checked out snopes.com since they are really good on these type of emails but as of February 13th "research in process"
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/resume.asp

Okay without going line by line there are a few things that stand out immediately


NOTE- I am not a Hillary supporter. I don't like her tactics or most of her "third way" policies or the DLC but the smear job that you and I paid for has been unfounded and purely political. So over a cup of coffee I will shoot down/point what I know about things stated here

Joe Conason and Gene Lyon's "The Hunting of the President" is a fantastic FACT BASED resource for the whole Clinton "scandal" process. I just happen to be reading it right now.


HEALTHCARE
To say that she spent $13 Million (we will spend that in an hour in Iraq) is just throwing a number out to shock you. Yes she couldn't get it passed by her own party but this is not the Republicans-there is no rubberstamp. As Will Rogers once said "I am not the member of an organized political party. I am a Democrat." and yes this did hurt them badly in the next election-mostly because the rightwing media said so but a lot of what was proposed at the time (like the medical ID card) is now a standard acceptable part of the discussion. We could have saved a lot of time, money, and LIVES if we had got this ball rolling a long time ago. A healthy workforce is necessary to make the things that need to sold at profit (and taxed) we are the only country past the stone age that doesn't recognize this or rather that rips off both the sick and employers.

I don't know the details of whom she recommended and I sincerely doubt the writer of this email does either.

Webster Hubbell was convicted but not for anything that was done IN OFFICE. In fact NO Clinton administration official was ever convicted of anything done while IN OFFICE and this includes Bill himself (by the way he was impeached though he wasn't "cited" for contempt, not perjury, until 3 months AFTER the impeachment debacle). Cisneros got caught paying off his former mistress and another official took football tickets. Google the names Libby, Lester Crawford, Claude Allen, David Safavian, Larry Franklin, Roger Stillwell, Darleen Druyun, John Korsmo, Dusty Foggo, just to name a few. Oh and I would be remiss if I didn't mention Bernie Kerik (W's DHS nominee... for about 15 minutes) and Jeff Gannon (the male prostitute repeatedly signed into the White House by someone???)


Travel gate
Trooper gate
and pretty much all of the "scandals" were nothing more than published accusations that lead nowhere. This was initiated by rightwing think-tank/organizations such as the Arkansas project (Mellon Scaife), Rev. Falwell (dead), and Rev. Moon's American Spectator magazine and Washington Times. These accusations were dutifully reported on by the corporate media until even they couldn't stand the stench any longer-the New York Times carried most of the water on Whitewater (they wanted to get them a President like the Washington Post had) and finally dropped the case when it was clearly ridiculous to continue, Newsweek (Issikoff) took the ball over the goal line for the radical looney right wing.

Money?? wasted???
Aside from the $80 Million on Whitewater Dan Burton's Government oversight committee actually spent 140 hours investigating the White House Christmas card list. Oh and Dan Burton once infamously tried to illustrate with a watermelon how Vince Foster might not have really killed himself even though Ken Starr himself had concluded that it was suicide and stopped spending our money getting it into headlines.

"Hillary almost got herself indicted ..." do they give a Nobel Prize for "attempted physics"? No this is simply implying an outcome that was never close to happening.

I have no idea about "It takes a village" as I have not read it. I also don't know much about the pardons other than the fact that Poppa Bush pardoned Caspar Weinberger who was about to testify against HIM and Orlando Bosch (look that one up WOW ) which is to say that basically no one likes another persons pardons...except of course for Scooter Libby who was the last person to petition Clinton for the Marc Rich pardon.

Nothing was stolen from the White House. That was pure bullshit created by the same people who sold you (did they?) the War on Iraq. The GAO investigated it and found nothing other than normal wear and tear and no missing items. I think it was either Office Max or Staples who tried to donate keyboards to the White House after the false story about the "W"s being taken from them and all of the donated keyboards were sent back-there was no need for them since the story was a lie.

Hillary didn't have too much to fend off Lazio's campaign because Lazio was a horrible candidate to start with.

I don't agree with hiding public records either.

I think that her record in the Senate, most everyone inside of DC at least, has been very constructive for the people of New York and she has quite a good reputation as a Senator. I of course opposed the Iraq War vote because, well, we told you how this was going to go. To say that she didn't live in the state is irresponsible since the LAW (we are still a nation of laws, right?) says that you simply have to establish residence as of the day you take office. Several politicians have "district shopped" over the years; Bush himself didn't have the pig farm rehabilitated to suit his needs completely until election day 2000.


This is mostly drivel. Useless pabulum. Take her on for her policies and tactics but there is nothing to imply any of this and implication is all that is here, for the most part.









> From: *************
> To: ***************
> Subject: Check this out--true?
> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:00:53 -0400
>
>
>
> Hillary's Resume
>
> Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the
> most qualified candidate for president based on her 'record,' which she says
> includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or
> 'co-president' - and her seven years in the Senate.
>
>
>
> Here is a reminder of what that record includes:
>
> - As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care
> Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both
> Bill Bradley and Patrick Moynihan, key votes needed to pass her legislation,
> that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she
> couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party.
> (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and
> Senate.)
>
> - Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney
> General. Her first two recommendations, Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, were
> forced to withdraw their names from consideration. She then chose Janet
> Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst
> mistake.'
>
> - Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil
> Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had
> to be withdrawn.
>
> - Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell,
> Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department,
> White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later
> imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.
>
> - Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons,
> Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security.
> When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI
> files of Clinton enemies and the widespread use of drugs by White House
> staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis
> Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in 1996, both
> the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that,
> the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving seven
> presidents for over thirty years.
>
> - In order to open the White House for her friends the
> Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be
> awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office
> fired; they were reported to the FBI for 'gross mismanagement' and their
> reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy
> Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House
> funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours.
>
> - Another of Hillary's assumed duties was directing the 'bimbo
> eruption squad' and scandal defense:
>
> ---- She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones
> lawsuit.
>
> ---- She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which
> led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million
> dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led t o Monica
> Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.
>
> ---- Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all.
>
> ---- And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury
>
> ---- And Bill was impeached by the House.
>
> ---- And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and
> obstruction of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, 'I do
> not recall,' 'I have no recollection,' and 'I don't know' 56 times under
> oath).
>
> - Hillary wrote 'It Takes a Village,' demonstrating her
> Socialist viewpoint.
>
> - Hillary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state
> she had never lived in. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get
> Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary
> also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get
> financial support.
>
> - Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return
> $200,000 in White House furniture, China, and artwork she had stolen.
>
> - In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the 'woman
> card' by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on her.
>
> - Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the
> National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of
> their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence
> and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those
> records.)
>
> - As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no
> major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend
> to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of
> workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11.
>
> - Hillary's one notable vote; supporting the plan to invade
> Iraq, she has since disavowed.
>

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