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Daveparts Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 09:35 AM
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They will come but if you impeach them will they go? Hypothetically if you were to impeach and then have a trial and convict the President and his Dick would they go?
Just the fact that such a question needs to be asked should bring about an epiphany on how far off the path our nation has wandered from it’s path. Is it not a credible question? Are there any other administrations you can think of that the question even entered the realm of conciseness?

Over the years Presidential administrations have sent up trial balloons of their possible intentions to gauge Congressional and public opinion. In the case of attacking Iran the reaction of the public has been skeptical while the reaction in the Congressional spectrum runs from down right negative to shrill hyperbole. In a normal administration this might be considered a problem but then this is no normal administration.

So how does the administration respond to such a negative response? Dick? “ I have no doubt Iran was striving to enrich uranium to the point where they could make nuclear weapons.

He then accused Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of espousing an "apocalyptic philosophy" and making "threatening noises about Israel and the US and others".

He also said Iran was a sponsor of terrorism, especially through Hezbollah. However, the US did not believe Iran possessed any nuclear weapons as yet.

"You get various estimates of where the point of no return is," Mr Cheney said, identifying nuclear terrorism as the greatest threat to the world.
"Is it when they possess weapons or does it come sooner, when they have mastered the technology but perhaps not yet produced fissile material for weapons?"

It makes one wonder, did they just pull out the old script and x out Saddam’s name and pencil in Iran? Dicks been out of town for awhile so he doesn’t have to answer questions about his chief of staff on trial for perjury and maybe he didn’t get the memo but Condi did say "The president is going to ... do what the country needs done," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said in an interview.

WASHINGTON –AP Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice urged the Democratic-controlled Congress not to interfere in the conduct of the Iraq war and suggested President Bush would defy troop withdrawal legislation. Condi says it the AP confirms that’s is what she meant. So I ask again, if Congress were to suddenly go through metamorphisis and evolve into courageous and attempt to remove the President and his Dick would they go? Have you ever noticed the only time the President is interested in law and order is when he wants someone to obey his wishes.

But if we have learned anything in the last six years its that the administration is going to do what ever the hell it is they want to do and will not be fettered by their Congressional house slaves or least of all the petty laws that you and I live under. Congress drunk with good bourbon lobbiest checks and abandonment of responsibility are slowing learning the lesson the German Army and Industrialist learned in 1930’s. When you sell your soul to the devil you can’t get it back no matter how nice you ask.

The Fuehrer was neither liked or well thought of by the military or the industrialist of Germany yet in a speech in 1929 he explained to the army, “But, my dear sirs, do you really believe that you have anything in common with an ideology which stipulates the dissolution of all that which is the basis of the existence of an army?” and to the industrialists it was made clear that those who came on board would be favored and those that would not would be remembered. Sound familiar? You’re either with us or you’re with the terrorists.

But that was Nazi’s! Yes, but the gambit’s the same. Congress is America’s millionaires club and have things ever been better for America’s millionaires? Not since the gilded age have the wealthy had it so good so who wants to rock the boat. Let me ask you a moral question, and be honest and search your soul. If you were in a casino and found a slot machine that was broken and was paying out every time would you go run to get the management? Then after filling your pockets you found out it was an organized crime plan to bankrupt the casino what then? Do you go tell all and risk the ire of the mob and the cops? Would the cops even believe you and what if the cops were crooked or do you just take the money and keep your mouth shut.

Explain otherwise the circumstances where this President has not been impeached. Never before in the history of this nation has an administration been more deserving of removal. Nixon’s high crimes appear laughable in comparison yet his removal was legitimate now however the supposed opposition party talks of impeachment only until they reach office. Now let me ask you another question, knowing what we know about the administration and having seen what we have seen do you suppose there are any limits on what this administration would do to stifle their opponents?

Say hypothetically you’ve been elected to Speaker of the House and as you discuss your security clearance with the FBI the agent he tells you point blank if you cause trouble for the administration your son might be found to have two pounds of cocaine in the trunk of his car at college or your husband might find a dead hooker in his car shot by a gun registered to him. What would you do?

Would you go run tell what you know and risk the ire of the administration and the public? Do you go to the US attorney for help? That’s funny isn’t it? You think you would get much help from the courts? That’s what got us in this mess. No, you would be smeared and slandered as a nut in the press so what can you do but just keep your mouth shut and play the game.

Nothing changes in the world politics and hasn’t changed since Julius Caesar’s demise I’m reminded of the baseball pitcher Don Drysdale who was once asked if he ever intentionally hit a batter “I’m a professional major league pitcher I make my living throwing the ball over the plate if I hit you it is no accident” Don knew what playing in the big leagues was all about!

So if impeached and convicted would they be removed? We will never know because it will never happen the administration knows what playing in the big leagues is all about as well, you cover your bases and you cover your ass when playing hardball.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 09:57 AM
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1. Cheney's Only Got One Gun
So two cops ought to be able to handle it. If you make them, they'll go. The point is, will Congress Act?
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Daveparts Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 10:20 AM
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3. Will Congress Act?
They act every day, they act like they are doing something to help the American people yet nothing improves. If George Bush were shooting school children on the Whitehouse lawn Congress would debate only his marksmanship.We live under the two party system in America those invited to the party and those who aren't
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 09:59 AM
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2. I don`t even believe they would give testamony about anything.
I think these suckers have feathered thier nest so well that they cannot be compelled to do anything they don`t want to do. k&r
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 10:47 AM
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4. They Don't Need to Testify
They need to be prosecuted competently and judged.
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