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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:21 AM
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LA Times editorial: Supreme Court to cops: knock the door down
Court to cops: knock the door down
Supes irresponsibly remove penalties for police who don't ring the doorbell.
June 16, 2006

IN A DECISION THAT MIGHT HAVE gone the other way if Justice Sandra Day O'Connor hadn't retired, the U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday needlessly gutted a venerable protection for personal privacy. By a 5-4 vote — with Samuel A. Alito Jr., O'Connor's replacement, in the majority — the justices ruled that Detroit police who entered a suspect's home unlawfully would not suffer the usual penalty for an illegal search: exclusion of the evidence at trial.

The court upheld the conviction of Booker T. Hudson, who was arrested after police, armed with a warrant, found drugs and firearms in his apartment. So what was the problem with the search? As the state of Michigan conceded, the police violated a 4th Amendment rule requiring that they make their presence known to the target of the search before rushing in.

This "knock and announce" rule is not a newfangled creation of softheaded liberal judges. Even Justice Antonin Scalia, the author of the majority opinion in this case, conceded that "the common-law principle that law enforcement officers must announce their presence and provide residents an opportunity to open the door is an ancient one." But having identified that principle, Scalia went on to trash it by holding that the evidence the police found could be used against Hudson at trial....

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Dissenting Justice Stephen Breyer countered persuasively that the question was what the officers actually did. "Although the police might have entered Hudson's home lawfully," Breyer wrote for himself and three colleagues, "they did not in fact do so. Their unlawful behavior inseparably characterizes their actual entry; that entry was a necessary condition of their presence in Hudson's home; and their presence in Hudson's home was a necessary condition of their finding and seizing the evidence."

The dispute between Scalia and Breyer is more than an abstract law school debate. It has ominous real-world consequences. If police feel they needn't announce their presence before executing a warrant, some of them won't — sometimes endangering themselves, sometimes endangering the occupants of the residence they have arrived to search. Scalia's opinion gives the police exactly that sort of blank check by removing the best deterrent to police misconduct: the exclusion of evidence at trial....

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-ed-police16jun16,0,5858377.story?coll=la-home-commentary
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:24 AM
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1. Anyone still think we needed to keep the powder dry?
Scalito should have been fillibustered no matter what the outcome would have been. A stand on principles would have done more good than harm.
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:38 AM
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2. Cantwell (D-WA) refused to support the filibuster of Alito.
She's up for the Democratic nomination. I wish to god we could unseat her.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:55 AM
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3. Gosh, no personal privacy in BushAmerica.
What a surprise!
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 09:04 AM
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4. It's worse than you think....
as bad as you may think the Supremes giving the police cart blanche to break down doors with no announcement if they have a warrant, it's worse.

What this means is, police breaking down doors in dangerous warrant executions have every reason to go through the door shooting first and asking questions latter. Why do I say that. Let's look at a scenario. The police have obtained a warrant to search a residence they have reasonable cause to think is the weigh station for the local chapter of the Cripps or Bloods drug trade. Any reasonable person would KNOW that when the door is broken down on a gang drug warehouse, the folks inside are not likely to wait to see if it is the police or a rival gang coming through the door, before they start spraying bullets. Now I don't pretend that the Cripps or bloods would shed a tear or have any compunction about shooting a cop. That's not the point. The crash through the door heightens the danger of the situation to the point where it would be entirely 'reasonable' for the police to come through the door with guns and shotguns firing.

Now lets take a look at what happens when all of the above is true, but the informant who gave to cops the info they used to obtain the warrant, just had something against an innocent family. What then? Or the info is just wrong through no malicious intent. What then?

This ruling puts the American people in danger of being shot "by mistake" and having no recourse. We are entering the gestapo period of the American experiment. I never thought I'd see the day.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:01 AM
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5. Excellent post, DWilliamsamh -- welcome to DU!
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:31 AM
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6. Recommended. Be sure to also read post #4. NT
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 07:17 AM
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7. It's also troubling that the majority didn't even contest that the entry
was UNLAWFUL. They just tossed the Exclusionary Rule, and basically said it's OK to do an unlawful search.

That's a bad slippery slope, because the Exclusionary Rule also happens to be the only thing making the police get a warrant in the first place. Scalia seems to think that allowing the exclusionary rule to die would be a good thing. That's scary.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 10:43 AM
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8. How is this going to play out in Florida?
Florida passed the NRA's Right To Kill law. Allows anyone to use a gun in their defense, as long as they they believe they're threatened...

What is going to happen when a policeman breaks down a door in Florida and gets shot to death?

Mr. Scalia, YOU got a problem here, don't you?
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 04:30 PM
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9. You appear to misunderstand Florida's new law...
which is now similar to the one California has had for decades now. You can't shoot someone simply because you "feel threatened."

In California, Florida, and most other states, you CAN shoot someone who is illegally breaking into your home, under the Castle Doctrine (which goes back to ancient English common law), and in such instances there is a presumption that the person is there to do you harm. This would NOT apply to a police officer serving a legitimate warrant, in accordance with the terms of the warrant, because he/she would have full legal right to be there. Shooting him/her would be murder in any state in the nation, including Florida.

FWIW, preventing mistaken identity tragedies is why no-knock warrants USED to be restricted to special situations, before the court issued this idiotic ruling. From an FBI report on the way things USED to be:

http://www.fbi.gov/publications/leb/1997/may976.htm

UNDERLYING RATIONALE FOR KNOCK AND ANNOUNCE

The Supreme Court has determined that "every householder, the good and the bad, the guilty and the innocent, is entitled to the protection designed to secure the common interest against unlawful invasion of the house."19 The knock and announce rule provides citizens with psychological security, knowing that one need not fear an unexpected intrusion. Privacy interests also are protected, avoiding unnecessary embarrassment, shock, or property damage resulting from an unannounced entry.

The rule serves to protect both the individual citizen and the police from the risk of harm and the potential for violence that may occur as a result of an unannounced entry.20 Announcement protects officers by ensuring that they are not "mistaken for prowlers and shot down by a fearful householder."21 Innocent citizens also are protected from law enforcement officers who mistakenly might shoot armed occupants who merely are trying to defend themselves from who they preceive to be armed intruders.


The second paragraph is particularly apropos.



The thing about the new decision is, if you read the ruling, you will see that the opinion does NOT dispute that the search was unlawful. Rather, it says that the evidence obtained in this kind of unlawful search is no longer subject to the exclusionary rule.

If the court is willing to throw the exclusionary rule out the window, then this ruling may have ramifications far beyond how a warrant is served. Once you set the precedent that evidence obtained via illegal searches may be presented in court, you've just eliminated the ONE provision that makes a search warrant necessary in the first place. It's not a big leap from allowing evidence from this unlawful search, to allowing evidence from other kinds of unlawful searches.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 07:03 PM
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10. You miss the point
Edited on Sun Jun-18-06 07:04 PM by Joe Bacon
The point bluntly is what will happen when a policeman breaks down a door unannounced in Florida and gets shot to death.

The shooter invokes the NRA's self defense law.

Now what happens next? Does the shooter go free?
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 07:59 PM
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11. Not if the officer had a warrant...
Edited on Sun Jun-18-06 08:11 PM by benEzra
The point bluntly is what will happen when a policeman breaks down a door unannounced in Florida and gets shot to death.

The shooter invokes the NRA's self defense law.

Now what happens next? Does the shooter go free?

Not if the officer had a warrant...since the Florida law specifically applies to an unlawful forced entry. A majority of states have such laws, including my state of North Carolina, as well as California. In Florida, if you shoot an officer executing a warrant in good faith (even if the warrant is not valid), you're going to face voluntary manslaughter at best, and the death penalty for murder of a police officer at worst.

Most states also make it a crime to resist an officer of the law who is performing his offical duties in good faith, even if he/she is acting on a search warrant that (unbeknownst to him/her) is invalid.

Now, if the officer does NOT have a warrant, and is knowingly acting outside the law, the the law would treat the officer as it would any other armed criminal, whether or not the state in question had a Castle Doctrine law. But I assume that isn't the situation you're describing.


The problem is, if you are NOT a criminal, NOT doing or selling drugs, etc., then the masked men kicking in your door are unlikely to be police officers at all. Police occasionally get the wrong house, but they are usually very careful not to raid the wrong place (big civil liability, if nothing else). In the past few years, the number of home invasions by criminals posing as police have greatly outnumbered incidents of police raiding the wrong place, although thankfully both are quite rare. But if the police do raid the wrong house, and do so by kicking in the door like common criminals, then it's a lose-lose situation for everybody. That's was a major rationale why no-knock warrants used to be restricted to special circumstances (known violent criminals, etc.) instead of having de facto blanket approval, as I've mentioned previously:

http://www.fbi.gov/publications/leb/1997/may976.htm

UNDERLYING RATIONALE FOR KNOCK AND ANNOUNCE

The Supreme Court has determined that "every householder, the good and the bad, the guilty and the innocent, is entitled to the protection designed to secure the common interest against unlawful invasion of the house."19 The knock and announce rule provides citizens with psychological security, knowing that one need not fear an unexpected intrusion. Privacy interests also are protected, avoiding unnecessary embarrassment, shock, or property damage resulting from an unannounced entry.

The rule serves to protect both the individual citizen and the police from the risk of harm and the potential for violence that may occur as a result of an unannounced entry.20 Announcement protects officers by ensuring that they are not "mistaken for prowlers and shot down by a fearful householder."21 Innocent citizens also are protected from law enforcement officers who mistakenly might shoot armed occupants who merely are trying to defend themselves from who they preceive to be armed intruders.


Now that the Supreme Court says a routine search warrant no longer has to give the homeowner the opportunity to comply peacefully in order for evidence to be admissible in court, then I'm afraid some police departments might be tempted to take a more gung-ho approach to serving routine warrants, and that sets up a bad situation if they get the wrong house. Making paramilitary raids a potential first resort for serving routine search warrants is a step down a bad road indeed.

IMHO, the way out of this is to reserve no-knock warrants for known violent criminals, and return "knock and announce" warrants to the role they were intended.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 08:29 PM
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12. The Fourth Amendment is pretty much a joke at this point
Edited on Sun Jun-18-06 08:31 PM by teryang
The appellate courts allow pretty much anything at this point when it comes to police raids on homes.

The same goes for traffic stops, which often turn into felony arrests.

The same goes for so called casual encounters on the street by police without probable cause, who just stop people and search them based upon appearance and race.
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