Eyewitness: Smoke and corpses (Fallujah eyewitnesses, BBC)

[ze_dscherman]

US troops, backed by Iraqi forces, are locked in a fierce fight to wrest the city of Falluja from rebel control. The BBC News website spoke by phone to Fadhil Badrani, an Iraqi journalist and resident of Falluja who reports regularly for Reuters and the BBC World Service in Arabic.
We are publishing his and other eyewitness accounts from the city in order to provide the fullest possible range of perspectives from those who are there:

SNIP


"It is hard to know how much people outside Falluja are aware of what is going on here.

I want them to know about conditions inside this city - there are dead women and children lying on the streets.

People are getting weaker from hunger. Many are dying from their injuries because there is no medical help left in the city whatsoever. "

More: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4004873.stm

[rodeodance]

1. there is propaganda from both sides

It will be long time before the 'truth' comes out as to number of causaulties ---civilians, US troops, Iragi guards/and 'insurgents'

[Zorra]

4. Yes, true. Kill the people of Iraq! kill them all! This message approved

by George Fucking Bu$h.

[rooboy]

10. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out...

that a town which is under constant bombardment with no infrastructure is going to be littered with dead and dying. No need for propaganda - just get the US to allow some film crews in.

[illuminaughty]

13. We sure freed them from the prying eyes of the press

We first censored their newspapers
Killed journalists
Stopped demonstrations
Kicked out Al-Jazeera

and these freaks on MSM talk about elections. Sick Fucks all.

[leftchick]

12. The Red Crescent reported...

just about the same. saying both hospitals were bombed by the US first! I wonder why? With all of those Precesion strikes they brag about one must assume it was intentional. I mean TWO hospitals? Half of Fallujahs mosques as well. RC also reported a humaintarian disaster with corpses, women and children as well, everywhere and food and water running out. I hardly think the Red Crescent is exagerating but then I can think of a LOT of reasons why the US military would. Satan lives in Fallujah you know!

Here is some reading about our 'pro-life' pres. and his actions!

http://www.islamonline.net/english/In_Depth/Iraq_Aftermath/2004/11/article_04.shtml

~snip~
On November 10, the Iraqi Red Crescent Society (the equivalent of the Red Cross) reported that a humanitarian crisis was brewing in Fallujah.

According to the Society, a pregnant woman and her child died in a refugee camp outside Fallujah after the mother unexpectedly aborted and no doctors were available to treat her.


Firdaws al-Obeidi, an official from the Society, told Reuters, “From a humanitarian point of view it’s a disaster, there’s no other way to describe it. And if we don’t do something about it soon, it’s going to spread to other cities,” she said.

The Iraqi Red Crescent Society just reported that a woman and her three daughters were trying to escape the carnage in Fallujah, but their home was hit by US bombardment earlier this week and all died.

Still, US media ignores.

[Judi Lynn]

2. Thanks for posting this article.

Almost unbearable reading it..... Families starting to bury their killed loved ones in their own gardens. No food, electricity, water, etc.

Compare it to this one written by the same reporter, Friday, 11-5. Sad, sad, sad:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3986085.stm

On edit:

I have every reason in the world to believe the author is telling the truth. Most people are not like the perverts cranking out the pro-war crap for _Bush. That takes a peculiar closeness to evil.

These people only want the monsters to leave. Who can blame them? It's their damned country, and they NEVER harmed us, nor planned to.

[rodeodance]

3. They are definitely not from any of the western provinces such as al-Anbar

From the above article


"I saw some Iraqi government soldiers on the ground earlier.

I don't know which part of the country these soldiers are from. They are definitely not from any of the western provinces such as al-Anbar.

I have heard people say they are from Kurdistan.

They are well co-ordinated. When the US forces pull back from an area, the Iraqi soldiers will take over there. "

[CHIMO]

5. Squeezing jello in Iraq

By Scott Ritter
The battle for Falluja is supposed to be the proving ground of the new Iraq Army. Instead, it may well prove to be a fatal pill. The reality is there is no Iraqi Army. Of the tens of thousands recruited into its ranks, there is today only one effective unit, the 36th Battalion.

This unit has fought side by side with the Americans in Falluja, Najaf, and Samara. By all accounts, it has performed well. But this unit can only prevail when it operates alongside overwhelming American military support. Left to fend for itself, it would be slaughtered by the resistance fighters. Worse, this unit which stands as a symbol of the ideal for the new Iraqi Army is actually the antithesis of what the new Iraqi Army should be.

While the Bush administration has suppressed the formation of militia units organized along ethnic and religious lines, the 36th Battalion should be recognized for what it really is – a Kurdish militia, retained by the US military because the rest of the Iraqi Army is unwilling or unable to carry the fight to the Iraqi resistance fighters.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/718AE278-58EE-431F-8045-5A3F505021B8.htm

[oblivious]

6. Yes, I heard this on BBC TV this morning. Children starving to death. nt

[Voltaire99]

7. "Dead women and children lying on the streets."

If that can't lock in the evangelical vote, nothing will.

[JSJ]

9. thanks, troops! you ain't hungry for an education- you're just murderers!

And you've found a place to murder kids without consequences to yourselves.

[IndianaGreen]

17. Well, they are not Christian and they are not white, soooooo

they are less than human, like Palestinians.

Thank you, Jay-Zeus!

[Zhade]

8. SERIOUSLY - WHY THE FUCK ARE WE *SITTING HERE*???

Why are we not in the streets over this madness?

What the fuck will it take to get us to stop this?

[Judi Lynn]

11. Overwhelmed, afraid it's hopeless? It's so popular with the fundies.

You just can't torment, crush, rip apart nearly as many furriners to satisfy their appetite for killing the people _Bush tells them are their enemies.

They had already been slowly starving during the heartless sanctions BEFORE the war, as well. Poor, poor, poor people.

[NorthernSpy]

18. popular? then why aren't the war-supporters enlisting?

Funny how few of the people who approve of this war are even the least bit willing to go take part in it.

[illuminaughty]

14. kick this and wake up people

We have to uncover the coup that has happened here but we cannot be distracted from the slaughter that is happening in our name.

There were vigils all over the country today for Fallujah, but time is running out for these people. I can't even say what I think we need to do. It feels like madness everywhere. Sorry, but this is all so senseless and I feel helpless.

[leftchick]

15. The US Criminals Can Expect This Result from Their Massacre

~snip~

Until then, the name of Fallujah will resonate in Iraqi history. Already, we have seen the rise of a new resistance group in Iraq called the Mujahideen of Fallujah. The US military actions in Fallujah are refueling an anti-occupation movement in Iraq that will soon transform from the passive to the aggressive.

Expect more groups to pledge revenge for Fallujah, more kidnappings, more attacks, more violence.

http://www.islamonline.net/english/In_Depth/Iraq_Aftermath/2004/11/article_04.shtml

[NorthernSpy]

16. anyone who tries to justify this horror...

... has blood on his hands. I absolutely despise the chickenhawks: they just adore aggression and they're always egging on their warmongering leaders, but they haven't got the integrity to put their own asses on the line when the fighting starts. Instead, they stay home and snipe at the rest of us for refusing to applaud the very war they refuse to fight. They're evil.

How's that for "moral clarity"?