Champagane time for IT, ITeS (outsourcers rejoice at Bush win)

[quaoar]

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/909944.cms

With the Republican party led by George W Bush on a home run in the US Presidential election , it is champagne time for the software and IT-enabled services community in the country.

The industry is pleased as punch that IT outsourcing wave will continue without any policy road-blocks. In fact, many of the industry executives that ET spoke to anticipate significant ramp up in business, post elections.

This is due to the fence sitters jumping onto the bandwagon and those on board accelerating their offshoring plans.

The strong half yearly results posted by software companies in fact indicates an upswing in outsourcing contracts. A few senior executives said that the indications are that ’05 onwards will be a great period for the Indian software firms.

[DS1]

1. Pleased as punch

Yeah, there's a few people I'd like to beat.

[Liberal Veteran]

2. I am SOOOO gonna enjoy watching Bush supporting IT people....

...watch their jobs evaporate.

[Nay]

5. Me, too. They can go to hell. I'll wave at them as I go thru the driveup

window. Fucking idiots.

[mreilly]

6. Not going to be much fun for us Kerry-supporting IT people

But the one small consolation I've nursed all day is the fact I work for a company that sells products primarily to wealthy retirees. I'm sure the wealthy will continue to prosper for the next four years, having their every whim catered to and met by this administration, so maybe my job will stay stateside for a while longer.

[Liberal Veteran]

7. Well, I lost my IT job last year to India....so, I can sympathize.

:)

[Deja Q]

3. I no longer despise pirates and hackers. What's left to do?

The outsourcing corporations are ruining the US infrastructure.

They are taking away jobs and pocketing the difference for themselves.

They still charge the same astronomical prices that keep going up and expect us to buy their products to keep the economy afloat. :crazy:

Okay, hacking is wrong and so is piracy - no argument there, it's a moral thing (and yet * won on moral issues :crazy: ). But if those 'people' want me to support them as they're stabbing daggers in the backs of EVERYONE in the US who is an IT worker, they can go cheney themselves raw until they bleed their green blood.

Don't forget folks, this is an ideological war. And something will give. Our economy might be it, because most of our domestic economy comes from the middle class consumers - the very group of people who are getting more taxes shifted onto them WHILE their jobs are being exterminated. And IT replaced manufacturing during the 1980s. What's going to replace IT? Surely not McJob and Wal-Attendant!

The future is not good. I won't side for either anymore, and I no longer say that either hacking or piracy is wrong. Not when the oursourcers are doing the stealing of our very country's foundation. No more sides for me, let them play their own game. I will sit back and laugh until I end up jobless like the rest.

But, in all honesty, would Kerry's policies have made a difference? The cost difference between a US worker and an India worker is gigantic. Greater than twentyfold on average...)

[Don Claybrook]

8. About piracy

I can appreciate if you have moral qualms about piracy. But the new me says pirate whatever the hell you want. Download all the top 40 crap you want. Put it in album order on a CD and give it away to ALL your friends and neighbors.

Rent the DVD once, or better yet, borrow it from a friend. Then copy the hell out of it and give it away. Show everyone you know how to use DVD copy software. Just leave the independent films alone.

These entertainment companies, they supported the fraud. How's that profit margin looking?

[mreilly]

9. I've never found any moral problems with cracks or piracy

At least involving products made by the big corporations. You see, they expect you to follow their rules and shell out hundreds of bucks for their products, then endure shitty documentation, support, lack of updates, etc. As meanwhile they repeat the brainwash: "downloading free software is STEALING. It's no different than walking out of a department store with a stolen shirt." These are companies that produce software with bugs that cause errors and you go to their website to look up the meaning of the error message and get "no results found" in the sad excuse for a knowledgebase. Call them up and they demand a credit card number and a minimum support fee (i.e. $200) before they'll even think of hearing about your problem.

But on the flip side, they get to set whatever rules they like for themselves, legal or not. Fire five thousand loyal employees and move the work to India? Sure, why not? "Move" to Bermuda so we can avoid paying U.S. taxes but still enjoy all the benefits of governmental contracts? No problem! Jam spyware or popup ads on users computers, or perhaps lobby Dell to put unwanted garbage on preinstalled systems that nobody is interested in (and yet which hounds you incessantly to register or buy the full version, at least until you uninstall the crap)? Great marketing strategy!

[Eloriel]

13. I cancelled Earthlink as my ISP

once I found out (late, but I did find out) that they'd outsourced nearly all their tech support jobs to India. I was -- and still am -- livid. I'd had that same email address for about 10 years (I thought it was 12 years, but only 10). It's a small thing in the grand scheme of things, not much more than a gesture, but I sure as heck enjoyed telling them WHY I was cancelling.

I went with http://www.redjellyfish.net. Good ole lefties with a leftie home page.

[DBoon]

17. Hmm.. Just like the former Soviet Block

A lot of very educated computer-literate people were unemployed after the introduction of "free market" reforms destroyed their economy. Some of these bright enterprising folks took up illegal activities - pirating software, virus development, cyber extortion, hacking for hire, etc.

Makes sense now.

[xchrom]

4. another facet of the jewell

this country hasn't been about the rights of the individual since reagan -- and corporate america holds the crown.

[Politicub]

10. And the people who are really screwed

Are the red state people who are lucky enough to still have a factory job.

They can reap what they sow. It's ironic (but lost on them I'm sure) that knowledge workers, the blue state creative class, comprise many of the folks that are extremely difficult to outsource.

Whew! Praise Jayzsus that Adam can't Marry Steve as you plead for an extension of unemployment benefits.

[The_Casual_Observer]

11. After the crash that's sure to come, these shit companies will

have no customers anyway, fuck them. It's about time for smart garage guys to come up with some new shit anyway.

[Robert Oak]

12. yup free license to ruin the American middle class

Isn't this fun?

I hate to say this but I see only the real hope of a total economic
collapse...

then we could get a government representing the people.

I don't want this by any means...but this is where their policies
are leading and it's more a silver lining potentially.

I've been so sad today...in 2000 I felt I watched the death of America..
and was hoping for a resurrection, but alas, not to be.

[Eloriel]

15. If it helps any,

a Kerry administration would have been only a slightly more pleasant reprieve, and I am not dissing Kerry with that statement (tho it's no secret he was NEVER my favorite).

Until/unless we get ALL our Dem leaders to "get it" about what needs to be done (and the list is very, very long, tho it starts simply enough with the Bush Crime Family), the country wouldn't be on the right track anyway, just a pleasant divergence.

[Steelangel]

14. whoever vote for Bush and lose their jobs to outsourcers, it is THEIR

fault.

[juliagoolia]

16. Kerry supporter...

IT worker and pissed.. thats me..

[OhioChick]

18. Voted Kerry

IT worker here, as well and just as pissed off as you. :grr:

[steely]

19. Which companies outsource? Is there a list?

I saw the recent DELL *commercial and wondered.

*guy phones support weenie from his own bed in the middle of the night - implication is the support staff works thru the nite (western hemisphere) - or is it?

[OhioChick]

20. Try Here.....

http://www.workingamerica.org/

[TexasChick]

21. I really hope this crap backfires on these greedy fascists! How in the

hell are they going to get anybody to buy their products if Americans are losing their jobs and they are paying these foreigners pennies on the dollar for their labor? They surely aren't going to be able to buy any! I really hope we have an economic collapse. When I found out that Bush won, I said to myself "I hope the worse for this country. I really do!" I love America, but damn, we are never going to get it back unless something really bad happens and believe me, us Dems who refuse to shop and buy products from this big corporations that donate to the Republican party are gonna pay! All they know is money and if they see that they aren't getting any, just maybe, maybe they'll start bringing back our jobs! Seems feasible to me, at least.