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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:27 PM
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U.S. strike kills 11 at wedding in Iraq's Falluja
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:33 PM
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1. how bout
a summary for those of us without access to the site? :hi:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:23 AM
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12. here goes:
FALLUJA, Iraq, Oct 8 (Reuters) - A U.S. air strike on the rebel-held city of Falluja in western Iraq killed 11 people and wounded 17 at a wedding party, with women and children among the casualties, a hospital doctor said on Friday.

Rafah al-Hayat said the U.S. raid, the latest of several which the U.S. military has staged against targets it says are used by foreign militants in Falluja, occurred at about midnight (2100 GMT) on Thursday.

The U.S. military said the "precision strike" had hit a safe-house being used by the network of Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi at 1:15 a.m. on Friday.

"Credible intelligence sources confirmed Zarqawi leaders were meeting at the safe-house at the time of the strike," an unusually detailed statement said.

<snip>

Residents and local doctors say many of these raids have inflicted civilian casualties in a city held by Sunni insurgents since a U.S. assault in April failed to dislodge them.

...more...
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ladybugg33 Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:10 AM
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32. We seem to have a propensity for bombing wedding parties in the ME
In both Afghanistan and Iraq we have just done this too many times.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:33 PM
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2. The US specializes in this sort of thing.
The Wedding Planner goes haywire every time we go after terrorists.


:eyes:
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:48 PM
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9. Never invite uncle Sam to the wedding.
I used to like ole uncle Sam, but these days "he" crashes big time.

I have to wonder if the FBI will discover a CD of bridal registries at the Pentagon. Of course, it won't be disclosed until after the US elections.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:34 PM
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3. Would you please post part of the story?
I don't want to register on the site, and the story hasn't been reported anywhere else.

Thanks.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:36 PM
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5. go here, when they're back up: bugmenot.com
http://www.bugmenot.com

they're down at the moment, but you can get to most sites that require registering

they should have a list of invaluable sites here; this would be one
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:39 PM
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6. The last time bugmenot.com was down, it was down for 4 days
That was last month.

It was frustrating as hell not being able to get pre-registered login IDs.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:36 PM
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4. Alternative link to story
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:39 PM
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7. Thanks, I was in a hurry, trying to get link to Paris bomb story
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tmooses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:40 PM
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8. Those dirty terrorists
always masquerading as wedding parties
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:50 PM
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10. more hearts and minds are won !..
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:17 AM
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11. "Bad people have parties, too"
What the hell have they accomplished by all these air strikes? Their intelligence sucks.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:08 AM
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28. LMBAO...Good one!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:49 AM
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:06 AM
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14. Are these tough people or what?
A wedding party in the midst of this chaos?? The US will never "subdue" these people. The best thing we could do is get the hell out of their oil fields and demonstrate true humanitarian interests.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:21 AM
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15. No need to read it because this bullshit line should be memorized by now.
----The U.S. military said the "precision strike" had hit a safe-house being used by the network of Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi------

Can you say al-Zarqawi safehouse?

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:29 AM
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35. Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is the Emmanual Goldstein of Iraq....
He'll be in custody "any day now." Really. And remember, we have always been at war with East Asia. All corpses are automatically insurgents, terrorists, or "al-Zarqawi leaders."
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:23 AM
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16. Maybe it was a gay wedding?
"Family values" must be upheld at all costs...
Sorry, I know its really sick humor I'm having a rough night.

It really is dangerous to get married both in Iraq and Afghanistan. I do feel horrible for the people over there.
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Mr E McSquare Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:29 AM
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31. Exactly what I was thinking
They arent gonna let a lack of a constitutional amendment stop them in Iraq.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:06 AM
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17. AFP:Twelve killed, bride among wounded, in US air strike
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 05:10 AM by leftchick
More US Terrorist Bombings....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1504&ncid=1504&e=3&u=/afp/20041008/ts_afp/iraq_unrest_fallujah_041008094712


<snip>
FALLUJAH, Iraq (AFP) - Twelve people were killed and the bride at a wedding party was among the wounded when US warplanes bombed the rebel-held Iraqi city of Fallujah, doctors said.

The US military said it was a "precision strike" targeting leaders of Iraq (news - web sites)'s most wanted man, the Al-Qaeda-linked militant Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi.


"We have received 10 dead and 16 wounded," said Dr Khaled Mohammad, noting that the bride was among nine injured females.


Two more bodies were pulled from the rubble of a house where the wedding party had taken place, which was destroyed in the attack, said a second doctor at Fallujah general hospital, Ali Hayad.


People were still sifting threw the rubble, he said.



An injured Iraqi man is comforted at the hospital in Fallujah, west of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), early morning Friday, Oct 8, 2004 after an US air strike on the Sunni city. The US air strike on the rebel-held city of Fallujah killed 13 people and wounding 17 at a wedding party, according to hospital sources. (AP Photo/Bilal Hussein)


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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:23 AM
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18. The US Goal in Falujah.
Subdue the population and get them to denounce The Resistance.

Instead of losing US Troops the airstrikes cause less ripple in the American population. The reason is always al Zagarwi. It works because he is the handy evil doer.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:53 AM
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19. Disgusting isn't it Disturbed?
And the state run televsion continues the WH lies about these terror bombings. God I wish some brave journalist would expose them... :(
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BurnedNotBeaten Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:14 AM
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21. Assuming it's a true story and the wedding was the target
What is really disgusting are the Hotel bombings near Israel that targeted and killed dozens of innocent Israelis last night.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:17 AM
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23. wtf does that have to do with the US terror strikes in Fallujah?
??
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:14 AM
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33. So are those pictures lies?
Why do you assume it is not true? Why would the people we liberated be so ungrateful as to make up such a sick story?

Why in the freaking world is the bad ass US military unable to kill one single man....in fact, they have killed hundreds of innocent people while they are using precision bombing to get him.

Yet Zarqawi lives. What? Is he immortal?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:41 AM
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:44 AM
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37. I call your post bullshit. You don't have a clue what you're...
...talking about.
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BurnedNotBeaten Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:58 AM
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46. Then see these links...
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=wedding+%2Bfalluja&btnG=Search+News

FALLUJA, Iraq (Reuters) - A U.S. air strike on the rebel-held city of Falluja in western Iraq killed 11 people and wounded 17 at a wedding party, with women and children among the casualties, a hospital doctor said Friday.

Rafah al-Hayat said the U.S. raid, the latest of several which the U.S. military has staged against targets it says are used by foreign militants in Falluja, occurred at about midnight Thursday.
The U.S. military said the "precision strike" had hit a safe-house being used by the network of Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi at 1:15 a.m. Friday.

"Credible intelligence sources confirmed Zarqawi leaders were meeting at the safe-house at the time of the strike," a statement said.

"Intelligence sources confirmed that the safe-house was being used by the group to meet and plan attacks against Iraqi civilians, Iraqi Security Forces, and Multi-National Forces."
more...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 AM
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54. ...yawn....
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 AM by leftchick
sounds like faux news, cherry picking information to justify your point.... :eyes:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 AM
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55. "Credible intelligence sources"??? Who do we have that's providing...
...our military with credible intelligence on the ground in Fallujah? You do understand that no self-respecting Iraqi still living in Fallujah is cooperating with the U. S., don't you?

And since we have no way of infiltrating ANY of the opposing organizations, how the heck are supposed to know exactly what was being discussed?

The NeoCons relied on "credible sources" that stated that Iraq had WMDs, too. And there were none to be found.

Here's another clue for you...nobody in a U. S. civilian or military intelligence organization is going to leak this kind of information to the media. Do you know why? Because information of this sort can be used by the opposing forces to pinpoint where the leaks are coming from.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:26 AM
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59. You can tell terrorist blood when you see it?
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 09:32 AM by leftchick
I am impressed....



A man mops the blood off the hospital floor following a US military attack on the city of Fallujah. US planes targeted a suspected militant hideout in Iraq (news - web sites)'s rebel city of Fallujah where medics said a wedding party was hit and 12 people were killed, amid unconfirmed reports that British hostage Kenneth Bigley had been killed.(AFP/Fares Dlimi)

...And I suppose these people are fake as well...




Mourners cry over the rubble of their relative's house, which was destroyed during an over night U.S. air raid in the western Sunni city of Falluja, October 8, 2004. A U.S. air strike aimed at foreign militants led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi killed 11 people and wounded 17 after a wedding party in Falluja Friday. REUTERS/Omar

....US bombs are so "smart" even when hitting a residential area they never kill civilians, right?



Local residents examine the debris after houses were flattened in an US overnight airstrike in Fallujah, west of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Friday, Oct 8, 2004.The US air strike on the rebel-held city of Fallujah killed 13 people and wounding 17 at a wedding party, according to hospital sources. (AP Photo/Bilal Hussein

....No wonder the Iraqis Hate the US and more and more turn Resistance Fighters against the occupation daily!
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:46 AM
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39. Did you read this part:
Residents and local doctors say many of these raids have inflicted civilian casualties in a city held by Sunni insurgents since a U.S. assault in April failed to dislodge them.

Every single time the military says it's precision strikes hit terrorists there are residents and doctors who say multiple women and children were wounded and killed.

That is a fact.

And who the fuck are you to claim Iraqi's have fake props lying around and fake doctors who lie? Gee, do you really think the Pentagon tells you 100% truthfullness all the time? How is it convenient when there have been 2 weddings that I have heard of we bombed. Two in what 3 years. Don't you think they get married? And where does one buy wedding props in a war-ravaged rubbled out village?

:dunce:
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BurnedNotBeaten Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:01 AM
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47. I don't go with the Pentagon reports
I go by the local valid Iraqi police and military reports. I trust them more than the terrorists to tell the truth.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:03 AM
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49. Oh, I see you are a CIA spy!
And you know for a fact that civilians and doctors in a hospital are all terrorists.

You know, it would be funny if it weren't so damned scary that you believe that bullshit.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:14 AM
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56. Excuse me?? "Local valid Iraqi police and military reports"?...
Tell me this....who invaded Iraq using a pack of lies as the rationale for doing so?
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Mr E McSquare Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:08 PM
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61. Walmart
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:52 AM
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42. the people of Falluja say there are no "terrorists"...
Given the US credibility on all things Iraq I would believe the citizens before I believe the proven liars. The Military is relying on bombing the shit out of them until they accept the US occupiers.
They say there are "terrorists" there to justify their actions to the ameriKans who believe their every word. As to the Iraqi Authorities? Is that a very poor joke? LOL! The Iraqis regard them as nothing more than US puppets, which is spot on!
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:53 AM
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43. And I call it bullshit....
...whenever we end up killing civilians.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:46 AM
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40. Do you think the hotel bombings could be in retaliation for the...
...missile attacks on Palestinian apartment buildings? How about the latest Israeli incusions into the Gaza Strip?

Go buy a few clues and then come back to talk to us.
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BurnedNotBeaten Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:54 AM
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44. Israel is targeting terrorists, the PA terrorists are targeting innocents
Why do you refuse to accept this fact? The PA terrorists hide among innocents and the Israeli military wears uniforms and stays clear of innocents. There is NO comparison between the hotel terror bombings and a strike against terrorists.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:56 AM
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45. Dead civilians are Dead civilians.
You will be booted from here soon, so if you want to talk I/P why don't you go to that forum?

This thread is about Iraq and our military baby killers, not Israel's.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:02 AM
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48. Didja ever notice they always show up on Fridays?
And with the same old tired, debunked bullshit? :shrug:
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:04 AM
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51. Why are they so stupid?
Is there seriously some Kool-Aid being distributed with Stupid drugs in it? Thank goodness I don't drink it!
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:06 AM
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52. LOL "so you're a CIA spy"
you just got him all excited I'm sure. }(
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:07 AM
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53. I think that is it Ripley.....
"Stupid" laced Kool-Aid! That explains a lot about freeper logic! LOL! :)
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:03 AM
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50. Israel CLAIMS to be targeting "terrorists"...
...at least that's what they tell us, right? And they achieve the same results as the Palestinian terrorists, which is a lot of dead civilians including women and children. Do YOU deny THAT fact?

Dead civilians are dead civilians no matter how you or any other Israel apologist tries to dress it up, and no matter where they die.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:28 AM
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26. I have insulated my feelings.
I cannot feel the pain anymore.
I cannot allow myself to feel it.
Too much death and maiming in the past three years has numbed me.
All that is left is a close to the surface rage
at what is being done in the name of America.
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:13 AM
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29. Well said -- and you speak for me too. Thanks. Hans N/T
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:22 AM
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24. Forgive us, innocent ones.
:(
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:13 AM
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20. Maybe al-Zarqawi was getting married?
:shrug:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:15 AM
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22. Oops. Nice to see you back DuctapeFatwa
Hope you have been well.

Don

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:27 AM
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25. Cuz those Eyerackee weddin' folks hate us for our freedumb
Heil Bushitler!

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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:08 AM
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27. LMBAO!
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:21 AM
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30. is it possible that "insurgents" are passing bogus intelligence to
to the u.s. forces in order to create situations like this?

i just had that thought.....

i remember a story about u.s. intelligences paying for information and everbody and their brother was telling them "oh yeah, zarqawi did it, can i have my money please?"

what a mess.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:29 AM
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34. Nice to see you again, Mr. Fatwa. I have missed your posts.
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:44 AM
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38. I wonder if this video is what you talking about?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:49 AM
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41. What is the video?
Who is talking about?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:17 AM
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57. Here's a link to the story on which this video is based...
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:24 AM
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58. Yeah, I'm in that one!
I posted the response above first because I didn't want to just watch the video, because (sorry) of the posters low post count. I thought it might have been a ploy. :evilgrin:
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:15 AM
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60. Hi DF! I'm so happy to see you've returned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes the Cheney administration tradegy continues, I truly hate these stories. :hug: :hi:
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