Moonies knee-deep in faith-based funding Pushing celibacy, marriage counse

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/10/03/MOON.TMP

President Bush has some new troops in his crusade to promote "healthy marriage" and teen celibacy with federal funds -- followers of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, the controversial Korean evangelist and self-proclaimed new world messiah.

At least four longtime operatives of Moon's Unification Church are on the federal payroll or getting government grants in the administration's Healthy Marriage Initiative and other "faith-based" programs.

Two of those Moon associates were in Oakland last week leading dozens of local pastors and social workers enrolled in a "Certified Marriage Education Training Seminar" at the Holiday Inn next to the Coliseum.

In some ways, Moon is an unlikely ally for President Bush's crusade to promote traditional family values.

The 85-year-old Korean is perhaps best known for presiding over mass marriage ceremonies for devotees whose unions are arranged by Moon or other church leaders. After marriage, Unification Church couples are given detailed instructions for their honeymoon, right down to the sexual positions they are supposed to assume during their first three conjugal couplings.

[TaleWgnDg]

1. GWBush and his "faith-based programs" makes one want to

cleanse oneself IMMEDIATELY by jumping into a shower or a bathtub!

Thomas Jefferson is most probably rolling over in his grave!!

Didn't these radical rightwingers who are pushing their religion into our laws learn from history? Jefferson did. Jefferson demanded "a wall of separation between Church and State," hence the first amendment religious prong!

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"I don't bring God into my life
to — to, you know, kind of be a
political person." — GWBush, interview
with Tom Brokaw aboard Air Force One,
April 24, 2003

"I believe that God wants me to be
president." — Richard Land, a Director
of the conservative evangelical Southern
Baptist Convention, quoting GWBush on
"the day (GWBush) was inaugurated for his
second term as governor (of TX) in 1999."

"I could not be governor (of Texas)if I did not
believe in a divine plan that supersedes all human
plans."

"I, George W. Bush, Governor of Texas, do
hereby proclaim June 10, 2000, Jesus Day in
Texas and urge ... all Texans to answer the
call to serve those in need. By volunteering
their time, energy or resources to helping others,
adults and youngsters follow Christ's message
of love and service in thought and deed."
— GWBush, as Governor of TX, officially
proclaiming June 10, 2000, as
"JESUS DAY in TEXAS."

"After all, religion has been around a lot longer
than Darwinism." — GWBush, reported in George
Magazine, September, 2000

"Government cannot make ppl love one
another ... (; instead,) love comes from a
higher calling, a higher authority; the great
strength of America lies in the hearts and
souls of citizens who've heard that call, not
in the halls of government."
— GWBush, campaigning for president in the
2000 election explaining his "faith-based initiatives"
vs. government run programs w/o regard for the
Separation of Church and State.
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[izzie]

7. Hell my Republican father is rolling over in his grave.

Wait to we really find out how much money Bush has dished out to these churches.Bush loves spending other peoples money.

[TaleWgnDg]

8. think about it this way . . .

GWBush, w/ his "faith-based initiatives," is buying religious-based votes for president. Indeed.

GWBush is using YOUR federal tax dollars to be a "money-changer" in the halls of religious institutions for his own personal political gain and for the gain of religion-into-law. It's multi-pronged.

And he's pandering to the Black churches w/ this money, as well as to other minorities. After all, who needs and uses "social services" more than the minorities? Think about all those votes!

WAKE UP, AMERICA !!!

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[Swamp Rat]

2. Messiah Moon

[TaleWgnDg]

4. that S.O.B. "Reverend" Moon

obtained his wealth through deceitful and unconscionable means: by brainwashing America's youth and stealing their money, then "investing" and buying up legit businesses. That bastard!

[joefree1]

11. Gay Moon

"The whole world is in my hand, I will conquer and subjugate the world."
(Sun Myung Moon, Master Speaks, May 17, 1973)

[Voltaire99]

3. Forget this--Scalia is right

Orgies, people. Orgies to reduce social tension.

[Duncan Grant]

5. You have to have business acumen to succeed in religion these days.

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In the Feb. 20, 2001, broadcast of his "700 Club" television show, Robertson said the president's faith-based initiative "could be a real Pandora's box."

"What seems to be such a great initiative can rise up to bite the organizations as well as the federal government," said Robertson, who expressed particular concern about federal money going to the Church of Scientology, the Hare Krishas and "the Moonies."

Robertson and Bush have since come to a meeting of minds on the president's faith-based initiative.

Another of the 145 recipients in the most recent outlay of the Compassion Capital Fund was Robertson's charity, Operation Blessing International, which got $500,000 from the Department of Health and Human Services.
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Well, we certainly don't want principle to get in the way of the gravy train, eh Pat? It worries me that these evangelist types have their tentacles so thoroughly entwined within the gov't. :scared:

:kick:

[TaleWgnDg]

6. Moonies . . . yes, Moonies . . .

here's the scoop on the so-called "Reverend" Moon and his debacle "Unification Church" --

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Sun_Myung_Moon

. . . and again this S.O.B. collected his first monies initially from young idealized naive American kids and their families. He brain-washed these kids. So much so that their families, if fortunate enough to "reclaim" their kids, had to have them "de-programmed." I kid you not.

Then this S.O.B. invested into and bought legit companies. For example, he bought the Washington Times; he bought U.P. (United Press which rivals AP); and scores of other companies including much of the fish-packing and frozen food industry in the northeast coast.

As a result the so-called "Reverend" Moon is worth millions today. And contributes heavily to rightwingnut causes.

[UpInArms]

9. the bushes have been Moonies for a long long time

http://www.americaheldhostile.com/ed010702.shtml

excerpt:

On January 13, 2001, there will take place the "Coronation Ceremony of the Royal Parents of Heaven and Earth." In the Garden of Eden, the archangel, Eve and Adam united and lost their position. This means God even lost His position. We need the Messiah in order to restore God's position. That is why the True Parents came, and based on the True Parents' foundation Heavenly Father can be the real king of all creation.

After reading many of Mr. Moon's quotes and beliefs, his use of the term "Christianity" appears somehow misleading. Because Mr. Moon does not believe in Christ. He believes himself to be superior to Christ and has attempted to usurp that role for himself.

So now you are asking, what in the world does this have to do with today? What does this have to do with politics? What could I possibly tell you about Mr. Moon and politics today?

...more...

also see http://www.geocities.com/nomoonies1/1/

excerpt:

However, in the 1980's Ronald Reagan and then vice-president George H.W. Bush held Moon’s Washington Times up and gave it, and by association its owner, their blessing. (32) They, along with a long list of predominately so called “Christian” conservative Republicans, decided to ignore the fact that Moon disrupts families all over the world and has a stated goal for his group to dominate the world. They have looked the other way so they could receive his money and media influence for their blatantly hypocritical theocratic views. (33)

Tim LaHaye, author of the “Left Behind” series of books touting an end of the world point of view, was funded by Moon. (34) In 1983, Lahaye organized hundreds of ministers to protest Moon’s imprisonment for tax evasion. Despite the overwhelming evidence and Moon’s history, LaHaye whipped up the preachers telling them that the government would come after them next. (35) LaHaye was one of the founders of the Moon funded super secretive Council for National Policy (CNP), which has a theocratic agenda. (36) George W. Bush spoke to this group in 1999 and received its endorsement for President. The Bush administration refuses to let the CNP release the transcripts of his speech or tell what he promised the group. (37)

Former president, George H.W. Bush has given speeches on behalf of Moon front groups around the world. (38) Bush helped Moon open a newspaper in Argentina, giving a talk in which Bush called Moon “the man with the vision.”(39a) Moon uses the credibility he receives from Bush and others when recruiting. (39b) One year after calling Moon “the man with the vision” Moon gave a donation of one million dollars to Bush’s presidential library. (40) Jerry Falwell took Moon’s money to keep his operation afloat. (41) Moon was a VIP guest at the Reagan/Bush inaugural. (42)

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[Owlet]

10. Will the real Anti-Christ please stand up

"This is Juan Williams at the Whitehouse. Bush and Moon look at each other...the audience holds its collective breath..then one of them slowly rises...it's..it's.."

We're sorry. We seem to have lost our line to NPR's Juan Williams. In the meantime here's Bruno Walter and...

[Wind Dancer]

12. Interesting!

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"One key to Moon's success is a longtime political operative named David Caprara. Caprara, a Unification Church member and former assistant secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development under Jack Kemp, is well connected in the nation's capital and serves Moon in various overlapping capacities.

Caprara serves as president of the American Family Coalition, a Moon front group, as well as representing The Washington Times Foundation. He recently accepted an appointment to serve on an advisory council that Watts put together in advance of the GOP "faith-based" summit. The Washington Times Foundation then arranged to broadcast the event live via satellite to dozens of communities.

Caprara also runs The Empowerment Network, a public policy organization that promotes "faith-based" and family solutions to societal problems. Two U.S. senators, Santorum and Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.), serve as caucus chairmen of the organization. Its "Empowerment Leadership Roundtable" lists two men who have gone to work in Bush's Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives Stanley Carlson-Thies and Don Eberly.

Through operatives like Caprara, Moon keeps a steady hand in Washington and thus in national affairs. Moon is able to open other doors through infusions of cold, hard cash when necessary. For example, many of the ministers who attended the "We Will Stand" events were given gold Christian Bernard wristwatches estimated to cost thousands of dollars apiece."

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http://www.au.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5684&news_iv_ctrl=0&abbr=cs_

[Wind Dancer]

13. From original post

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"Another longtime political operative in Moon front groups, David Caprara, now directs the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives for the federal government's Corporation for National and Community Service. That agency runs, among other things, AmeriCorps Vista, which works with community organizations in low-income neighborhoods, and has emerged as a key player in Bush's faith-based initiative, handing out $61 million to faith-based organizations in fiscal year 2003.

Caprara is the former president of the American Family Coalition, a "grassroots leadership alliance" funded by the Washington Times Foundation and founded by Moon in 1984.

Caprara declined to comment on his Unification Church ties, referring questions to his press secretary, Sandy Scott.

"We don't inquire about employee's personal religious beliefs,'' Scott said. "What inspires David's work is a dedication to fighting poverty."

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This stuff is really scary!