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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 07:56 AM
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Putin Threatens Preventive Terror Actions
MOSCOW -- President Vladimir Putin said Friday that Russia was preparing to take preventive action against terrorists, the Interfax news agency reported.

Putin said that "now in Russia, we are seriously preparing to act preventively against terrorists," Interfax reported.

Lower-level officials including Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov have threatened pre-emptive strikes against terrorists abroad, and it was not immediately clear whether Putin was referring to actions only at home or abroad, too.

Interfax quoted Putin as saying that the steps would be "in strict accordance with the law and norms of the constitution, relying on international law."

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/wire/sns-ap-russia-putin,0,7746446.story?coll=sns-ap-world-headlines
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:00 AM
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1. well, if bush can do it, why can't putin? Why not stage a horrible scene
of carnage that will justify some allegedly pre-emptive attack on some coveted resource?

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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:01 AM
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2. The Bush Doctrine rears its ugly head
Who didn't see this coming (I mean, besides Condaleeza Rice)? What will the US do if Russia decides to follow our lead?
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:05 AM
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4. Well, George and his Crawford Ranch visiting Ex-KGB friend Putin have
...most likely been talking about how to do this "Brave New World" vision of the Bush Pre-emptive Doctrine to fight the War on Terra for a long time now....no surprises here....

:scared:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:01 AM
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3. this could become a very hot topic
if we had a media that would actually report the news.

CHECHEN MILITANTS SETTLING IN THE US

http://www.vor.ru/English/Exclusives/excl_next1048_eng.html

The US government granted political asylum to a Chechen militant who has been in exile in the United States since 1999.

Political asylum was granted recently to Ilyas Akhmadov who passed himself off as a foreign minister of a separatist Chechen government. It is more accurate to say that one part of the government, the Department of Homeland Security, dropped its appeal against another part of the government: the immigration court in Boston that granted the Chechen militant asylum months ago.

Curiously enough, the immigration judge argued that if he were returned to Russia, where he faces the Russian law, he had little doubt the Chechen warlord would be “shot without being afforded the opportunity to defend himself in a trial”. That judge should be informed, however, that unlike in the United States, capital punishment is no longer practiced in Russia, like in most European countries.

It is widely believed that the DHS appeal was made not on the merits of the case, but as a favor to the Russian government, which considers Akhamadov a terrorist.

Unsurprisingly, the Russian government was not amused. As the Russian Foreign Ministry pointed out “such acts do not correspond to the friendly spirit of Russian-American relations, and do not help the joint fight against international terrorism.” It is strange that a country which has suffered from may be the worst terrorist attack in its history and is waging an armed struggle against terror should be so impulsive in granting an asylum to a person on the international watch list. In Russia this is viewed as a double-standard policy.

...more...
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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:14 AM
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6. It's fun
http://www.peaceinchechnya.org/about_members.htm

It's amazing how the same people pop up everywhere.

Some are with PNAC, who want "usable" nuclear weapons. And they're also with this group who want peace. How does that work exactly?

I actually hope that Putin goes nuts. We have the Bush administration. Why should the people of Russia get off easy? They still have nuclear weapons pointed at us. We still have them pointed at Russia.

I hope they all blow up the planet. The system is broken(if it ever worked), and the reality that we all live in is insane. I'm tired of it. Just get it over with already.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:16 AM
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7. Russia's Putin warns (West) against indulging terrorists
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L17617379.htm

MOSCOW, Sept 17 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Friday that the West's "patronising and indulgent attitude" to terrorism amounted to complicity, Itar-Tass news agency said.

It quoted Putin as telling an international meeting of city mayors that Western calls to negotiate with Chechen separatist rebels amounted to the failed appeasement of Nazi Germany ahead of World War Two "We have long warned about the threat of terrorist attacks, but our voice has not been heard," he said. "Moreover, we faced double standards in the attitude towards terrorism.

"I urge you to remember the lessons of history, the amicable deal (with Adolf Hilter) in Munich in 1938 ... Of course, the scale of consequences is different ... But the situation is very similar."

Leading Western nations have expressed sympathy with Russia over a string of violent attacks blamed on Chechen rebels, in which more than 400 people died in the past three weeks, but urged Moscow to look for a political settlement in Chechnya.

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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:13 AM
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5. Even as we read this there is some mummified old nutcase in Moscow
telling Putin, "People of Amerika vill be dancink in streets to see Soviet soldiers in Houston and Juneau. Vill be greetink with pornography and Budveiser arrival of glorious new socialist workers' Paradise."
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:17 AM
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8. Rough translation:
We are NOT stuck in a quagmire in the Caucasus, Not Not NOT!,
we still have lots of stuff to try.

This is sort of like Shrub saying we are making great
progress in Iraq.

Any sort of bullshit is better than looking impotent
and clueless. Leaders have to lead even when they have
no clue where to go.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 08:25 AM
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9. America look in the mirror
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 08:26 AM by pbl
It's not so pretty is it?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 09:57 AM
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10. It's not so pretty is it?
Putin saw a monkey acting in a most peculiar way... and decided that monkey see monkey do, even now, will certainly do.

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sr_pacifica Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:46 PM
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11. Putin
This guy is so much like Bush, it's sickening.
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sr_pacifica Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:47 PM
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12. Putin
This guy is so much like Bush it's sickening.
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