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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:48 AM
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Stair-Climbing Wheelchair Gets FDA's OK
It's complicated and carries a hefty pricetag, but the federally approved iBOT wheelchair promises to give some of the nation's 2 million wheelchair users new freedom of movement, even allowing them to climb stairs.

The Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday authorized the sale of the iBOT, which uses sensors and gyroscopes to climb up and down stairs. It also shifts into four-wheel drive to navigate grassy hills and can lift its occupant to standing height.

Doctors have called the technology potentially revolutionary and the FDA termed it a breakthrough, but one so complex that, unlike other wheelchairs, it will require a doctor's prescription and special training before patients can buy an iBOT.

The iBOT will cost $29,000, less than some top-of-the-line models for the severely impaired but far more than basic wheelchairs. The maker, Johnson & Johnson subsidiary Independence Technology, is negotiating with Medicare and other insurers to pay for the wheelchair, but could not say Wednesday if that is likely.


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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:22 AM
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1. Invented by Dean Kamen
Same guy who invented the Segway.

I've read stories about people using the iBot and having a face to face conversation with others for the first time in years - which had a profoundly positive effect on them. Also watched a simulated shoving match between a person in a "standing" iBot with another person - it was astounding to see the iBot user win.

Revolutionary technology.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:32 AM
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2. Great news
Thanks for the link. I'll have to see if "The It Question" Website or the "Dweeb Cabal" has this. They are avid followers of Dean and his inventions.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:06 PM
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14. You are welcome DemonFighterLives!
:-)
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:53 AM
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3. Check Out This Link
I Have Been Following The iBOT Since The Start Of The Whole IT hoopla. I knew that keeping this link for the past three years would be good for something.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/285231.asp

To see just how revolutionary this machine is, make sure you watch the video. IMHO it is more important then the Segway.

Jay
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 10:49 AM
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4. The video

That video brought tears to my eyes when I watched it 4 years ago, and it did it again today. Kamen is definitely the Edison of our age.

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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:15 AM
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5. Same Here,...
I hadn't cried in 20 years.

Jay
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:27 AM
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8. The price tag
brought tears to my eyes. Only wealthy wheelchair users can afford it. Medicare certainly won't pay for it.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:38 AM
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9. Hopefully The Price Will Come Down...
as the cost of R&D is chewed up by initial sales. In theory the price should also drop as cost of manufacturing comes down. But we have all heard that one before. CD's anyone?

Jay
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:16 PM
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12. The cost of the R & D was...


...underwritten by the Heinz foundation. That's controlled by Teresa Heinz, wife of John Kerry.
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:58 PM
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10. Not really
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 01:12 PM by Johnyawl
Only wealthy wheelchair users can afford it

While $29,000.00 is nothing to sneeze at, put it in context: The vast majority of the SUVs & PUs on the road today, driven mainly by the middle class, start in that price range.

That said, there are plewnty of people in wheelchairs who are not middle class, don't have that kind of money, or credit, and have no insurance or insurance settlements to help them with the price tag. SS Disability and Medicare are going to have to cover this. Like prescription drugs, this is going to have to be made an issue.

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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:13 PM
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11. Insurance won't cover it either
I've been following this story for well over three years. In the beginning, is was wonderful to image the freedom a chair like the Ibot would bring to the disabled.

But after researching and discovering that neither insurance companies, nor Medicare would pay for it, reality sunk in. It's kind of cruel in a way. Hey look! Look what you can do in this chair! It can climb stairs, climb hills, wheel through mud, sand, rocks and water and you can have a face to face conversation w/every abled bodied person!

The majority of PWDs live on SSDI and I seriouly doubt many have $29K laying around after paying for their monthly medical needs which Medicare does not pay for.

That said, I am happy for all of the rich crips out there that can afford one.

P.S. The reason that the insurance companies decided ahead of time not to cover the Ibot, is due to liabilty. (An accident waiting to happen.)
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Aaron Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 05:16 PM
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15. Is it unlikely to change with a Dem' administration?
I'm not a scholar of disability politics in the US by any means but my uneducated guess is that Dem's are more likely to get something like this paid for by medicare than Repub's. Is that true? Or is it more of a bureaucratic issue or issue that the Dem's don't differ significantly from the Repub's on?
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Fair and Balanced Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:18 AM
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6. What great news
But I must admit, looking at it, I'd be scared to death taking it up steps! All in getting used to it, I suppose.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 02:37 PM
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16. Hi Fair and Balanced!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Best_man23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:21 AM
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7. My older brother was wheelchair-bound
Before he died in 1990, he dreamed of having a chair that could climb stairs and negotiate obstacles.

He would have loved this new chair. Dean is a genius.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:28 PM
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13. I would be afraid to get in that thing
What a ride that would be if it failed. Have a hunch it won't sell like hotcakes, especially at $29,000.00. I doubt if Medicare would cover such a contraption. The wealthy could well afford to have a strong body to carry them up the stairs more safely. Would I trust a patient who is severely impaired to have the ability to manuever such a monster? I think not.
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