'I'm sorry. It just isn't me' (details of Sivits' testimony)

[Khephra]

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Asked why it had happened, Sivits said the other guards told him they were merely following orders. "They said they were told by military intelligence for them to keep doing what they were doing to the inmates because it was working; they were talking."

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Two other soldiers, Sgt Javal Davis and Private Lynndie England, stamped on the prisoners' hands and feet, he said. His voice trembling with emotion, Sivits then described how Frederick launched an unprovoked assault on a hooded Iraqi prisoner, punching him so hard in the chest that he collapsed. "The detainee went down and Sgt Frederick told me: 'I might have put him into cardiac arrest'."

A medic then fetched an inhaler. "They were trying to get him to breathe," he said. After another guard, Specialist Sabrina Harman, wrote the word "repist" {sic} on the leg of a prisoner, Graner punched a second hooded detainee in the head. prisoner collapsed.

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Sivits said the naked detainees were then stacked against the wall. "England then commented on the size of their penises and posed for a photo doing the thumbs up ... She was laughing," he said.

Finally, Frederick and Graner then asked the prisoners to masturbate in front of them and the other guards. "When that started, honestly I had had enough and I left," Sivits added.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1220709,00.html

[Khephra]

1. kick

[Bandit]

2. All of this stuff makes me literally sick to my stomach

I am sickened while freepers are orgasmic. She was Laughing

[Khephra]

8. That was the bit that got me the most

I don't believe any of the things she's said in her defense. You can tell from the look in her eyes then compared to her eyes now that she was enjoying the hell out of herself during those photos. It's too clear from her expression.

She was laughing

:puke:

[Coventina]

3. Unfortunately, it WAS you

but thankfully you had enough humanity to eventually get sickened and leave.

[Spazito]

4. I thought the meme out re Sivits was that he said...

there were no orders from above? This seems to be untrue from this paragraph:

Sivits said the other guards told him they were merely following orders. "They said they were told by military intelligence for them to keep doing what they were doing to the inmates because it was working; they were talking."

[Zerex71]

5. Ahh, America's heroes

Support the troops...as they rape, pillage, plunder, humiliate, torture, abuse, kill, maim, deface, destroy, ransack, murder -- well, you get the idea.

Boy, we've come a long way from fighting for real democracy. Pretty soon I'm half-expecting a benevolent country to invade Iraq for the purposes of kicking out torturous occupiers -- the US.

[Karenina]

6. The Iraqis

will oust the Amis. Bank on it. The only questions for America are
1) Now or later?
2) How many must die?

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. They hate us for our freedoms.......

"Saddam was a madman... he had rape rooms... the rape rooms are gone.
The world is a safer place now..."