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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 09:40 PM
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BBV - Elections official warns glitches may scramble vote auditing - ES&S
Matthew Haggman
Miami Daily Business Review
05-13-2004

A scathing internal review of the iVotronic touch-screen voting machines used in Miami-Dade and Broward, Fla., counties, written by a Miami-Dade County elections official, has raised fresh doubts about how accurately the electronic machines count the vote.

The review, contained in a June 6, 2003, memo that came to light last month, concludes there is a "serious bug" in the voting machine software that results in votes potentially being lost and voting machines not being accounted for in the voting system's self-generated post-election audit.

The Miami-Dade County Commission's elections subcommittee has scheduled meetings today and Friday to discuss the issues raised in the memo.

The memo could cast a new shadow over the credibility of electronic voting as the November presidential election approaches. Electronic voting machines are coming under increasing criticism for being glitch-prone, not providing an adequate way to perform a recount in close races, and being vulnerable to computer hacking and fraud.

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http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1084316008117
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 09:50 PM
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1. disqualify them all. call for hand-ballots, and count them using humans.
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ex_jew Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 10:09 PM
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3. That's the ticket !
There is no alternative at this point.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 11:16 PM
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5. I agree
There is no necessity to have the results within minutes of closing.

Votes should be tallied by each precinct and then reported to the county and state election boards.

Too many are sent to a central county site to be tallied. What happens during the transport? What happens during the transmission of data via electronic methods? What happens at the central site?

What could happen that could result in the results being incorrect? Too much!!!!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 09:51 PM
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2. kick
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 10:59 PM
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4. Vote by absentee ballot.

If all democrats voted by absentee ballots there would be no problem.
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Marthe48 Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 11:58 PM
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6. yep
even if our paper ballots get tossed in a box and not counted, at least we know for sure we didn't vote that that POS Bush
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:53 AM
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7. Isn't Miami-Dade the county where the election official was fired?
Miriam Oliphant, wasn't that her name? And she was opposed to some of these machines. Jeb Bush finally fired her, IIRC, but for "incompetence."
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:24 AM
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8. These machines are NOT "glitch-prone."
They are performing EXACTLY the way they have been programmed to perform. There's your trouble.

:argh:
dbt
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 07:19 AM
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9. That won't bother our
"election" officials as they will force them on us anyway. It seems they are so nakedly beholden to these extremist corporations that NO flaw and NO amount of evidence that these machines are rotten is enough to get them to stop them. It seems corruption at its worst is rampant in our election system and the people who are in charge of them, a COMPLETE flushing of the cesspool is necessary.
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duhneece Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 07:34 AM
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10. I urge all of you to check out your state's forum on BBV
At BlackBoxVotingOrg (please google for exact site), there are individual state forums. Through the New Mexico forum there, several of us have 'connected' and are becoming strong, strong enough to get TV, newspaper and radio coverage which makes us even stronger.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 07:54 AM
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11. How can serial numbers
for machines that aren't even being used in the precinct show up in the audit log???

a.) The machine is making up serial numbers
b.) The number is left over from previous usage
c.)?


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