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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:09 AM
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Gingrich: Laws preventing child labor are 'truly stupid'
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 02:10 AM by Adenoid_Hynkel
Source: CNN

(CNN) - Newt Gingrich proposed a plan Friday that would allow poor children to clean their schools for money, saying such a setup would both allow students to earn income and endow them with a strong work ethic.

Speaking at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, the former House Speaker said his system would be an improvement on current child labor laws, which he called "truly stupid."

"It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in child laws which are truly stupid," Gingrich said. "Saying to people you shouldn't go to work before you're 14, 16. You're totally poor, you're in a school that's failing with a teacher that's failing."

<...>

"I tried for years to have a very simple model. These schools should get rid of unionized janitors, have one master janitor, pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work; they'd have cash; they'd have pride in the schools. They'd begin the process of rising."

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/19/gingrich-laws-preventing-child-labor-are-truly-stupid/




Leave it to Newt to use one speech to both propose a throwback to the workhouses of Dickensian England and attack school janitors as some kind of cushy elite.


"No second helping of porridge for you, Oliver Twist! Now go scrub the toilets in the boys room!"
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:13 AM
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1. I can tell it did him a lot of good.......NOT.
Kids are in school to LEARN. Period. OK, some social skills and like that, but working at keeping the school clean is not the point.

My. God.

He boggles my mind.

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:01 PM
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197. to learn! exactly, CP! he boggles all of our minds. how can people support such stupidity?
they're repubs, that's how. lol. you are so quick at getting first post! you know, that's a game on the intertubes, getting first comment, and you seem to do it better than most. On the next big story where you're first post, put FIRST in the subject just for my kicks n giggles! LOL

Love you CP! :hug:


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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:04 PM
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200. My dear Peggy...
the whole slate of republicans boggles my mind.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:16 AM
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2. If there is a God, then she must be telling us something important about the Gingrich.
As, like, he wants child slavery.

Good idea. Please be the Republican nominee, you Silly Salamander.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:10 PM
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183. That only works if Obama doesn't do what he always does
and try to find a halfway point between opposing and supporting News on this idea.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:25 AM
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3. fat evil troll. what a fat evil troll.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:56 AM
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Yes! And full of hot air...
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:11 PM
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184. To paraphrase George Harrison's immortal line about the "bigger piggies"
(and, mods, this is only metaphorical, so don't freak):

"In his mind there's something lacking,
What he need's a damn good whacking!"
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 08:43 AM
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219. Dear Charles Dickens
Sir:

If you could, please send the ghost of Ayn Rand along with 3 others to visit Newt on Christmas Eve.

Thanks!

Joe B
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:30 AM
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4. How many janitors are employed per school?
And how many poor students does the Newt think are in each of the schools? Does this new plan apply to all schools since there should not be any limit to child employment?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:07 AM
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64. This is how clueless he is...schools have been cut so badly they might only have one janitor
he's so out of touch he doesn't realize how many unionized teachers are cleaning their classrooms on their own time.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:23 PM
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149. Well, after all of our schools are privatized this will probably
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 02:29 PM by dotymed
happen. Those damned greedy Union janitors should be fired. Everyone knows how overpaid they are. I bet they make $10 an hour. Who cares? Then the private schools can "hire" the students for $3 an hour and they can support their lazy assed ex-janitor parent and the rest of their no good family.
:sarcasm:


If ever there was a bastard that deserved to have his million$ seized and distributed to the needy it is him. That disgusting POS has no idea of what work is. Where does he "work," the heritage foundation? The place where idiots like him are paid million$ to espouse hate and poverty? Where being a sociopath is the only requirement.

When people like Jonathon Swift made statements like this, at least everyone knew he was a satirist. When Grinch makes a "Modest Proposal" he is serious and believes his own insanity. My God, how can any media or anyone not see that this is a seriously deranged, dangerous person? He really deserves to be given to the poor people of this country. He makes Jack-the-ripper look like a saint.

msp
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christx30 Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:52 AM
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5. I'm actually glad
Newt said this. We paint the entire GOP with this brush, and force them to either repudiate what he said or somehow come to Newt's aid. Obama gets 300 electoral votes.
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nobodyspecial Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:53 AM
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6. So are the rich kids attending private schools
going to be cleaning the toilets as well so they learn a strong work ethic.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:01 AM
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8. no, because inner city kids can do it instead
once Newt deports all the illegal aliens who used to clean the 1 percent's mess
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:55 AM
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79. It's called "work study" ...
lessons in what they'll be looking forward to under a Repugniconvict regime ... low wages in a (literally) shi* job ...
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zogofzorkon Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:11 AM
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27. No... bus in the poor kids,prepare them for the their future
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:13 AM
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44. They will not need a strong work ethic.
They will have a trust fund.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:33 PM
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132. Of course not - they have money. They don't need a strong work ethic. nt
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:59 AM
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7. Maybe he is the best candidate for the GOP. Cause he truly is evil.
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:02 AM
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9. Newt is such a creep.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:12 AM
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10. This is a man who advocated orphanages for the children of unwed teens
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:45 AM
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74. Somehow, I think Newt got the wrong message from reading Dickens...
He thought the author was describing Paradise Lost.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:17 AM
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11. "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"
Newt is Scrooge. He needs to be visited by ghosts.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:25 AM
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28. Actually, Scrooge is the Newt's moral superior.

For pure dickery and douchebaggery, Gingrich's is rivaled only by Cheney, Abramoff or Wolfowitz, and perhaps by John Edwards.

But, so what? He's only saying the most extreme things now to keep his name in the papers. Like all his opponents except Romney, his campaign isn't going anywhere.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:06 AM
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33. edwards? what did edwards do to make it on that list?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:21 AM
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38. You are so lucky if you don't know.
It is very close to what Newt did with his cancer stricken wife number ______.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:32 AM
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40. oh, yes, he cheated on his wife who had cancer
I just dont count cheating on ones spouse as bad as advocating that kids work. on a moral level cheating is horrible, i have never done it and had it done to me a few times. i just have a disconnect between sex life and politics.

on a personal level i agree that edwards is not the kind of person i would be (people do cheat, when my male or female friends begin to tell me about cheating i cut it off quick and say dont tell me what you wouldnt tell your spouse because i dont want to know and keep a secret from them, it will cause me stress)

on a political level he is no where near as bad as the others you listed, i just thought i missed something politally horrible he had done.

i think we can agree that cheaters are not nice people (unless it is an "open marriage" of course and the other spouse expects such behavior)
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red dog 1 Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:35 PM
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206. He had his wife sign the divorce papers while she was in the hospital with Cancer.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:30 PM
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116. cheating on a dying spouse is very bad
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 12:30 PM by DBoon
Publicly advocating policies that enslave and degrade and entire generation is a level of evil only a prominent public politician can achieve.

Edward's lack of personal ethics harmed his family (and his own career) severely

Newt's will cripple an entire nation
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:33 AM
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70. Really!
:wtf:
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:09 AM
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81. he cheated on his wife
but that is nothing like advocating that poor kids clean their schools. one is being an asshole on a personal level, the other is being an asshole to millions
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:56 AM
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105. You look at the deception he was doing after cheating and conceiving a kid

That he lined up a friend to lie for him and say that it was his child, and that he hired his mistress on the campaign. I don't look at the cheating at all. I look at the other things he did, and things that came out after his career collapsed, none of which have been good. Though I would be surprised if Edwards made a comeback. I wouldn't put it beyond him, though.

I hope you noticed I didn't include Anthony Weiner. It's still an injustice that he had to resign.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:14 AM
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45. "douchebaggery"
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:39 PM
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195. Newt would have Tiny Tim pulling a rickshaw, crutch and all, with Newt's fat ass in it
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:23 AM
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12. That twisted face is like something out of The Empire Strikes Back. Or something.
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digidigido Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:28 AM
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13. This is what witches mean when the say "eye of Newt" in their potions
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:34 AM
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14. What a jerk! nt
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:42 AM
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15. at what age newt?
when would they do their schoolwork? when would they play? any sports, any rest in their lives? any time for friends and family?
he's disgusting.
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vankuria Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:51 AM
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104. Should be great for a kids ego...
Having to clean toilets while their better off friends are using their free time to patricipate in sports, fun, activities, etc. And they can bus the poor kids to the more elite schools so they can clean up after rich kids! Wow what an idea!
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:34 PM
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117. that's actually how I got through college
housekeeping jobs were the pretty much the only on-campus jobs that weren't work study (parents refused to complete financial disclosure forms required for any aid - another issue)

Ended up in charge of an all-guys dorm noted for parties and general rowdiness.

Nothing like cleaning up other people's shit for a living. Especially when the other people have affluent parents paying their full bill (hence the time to party)

And no I'm not bragging about my sacrifice - it was truly miserable
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 02:33 AM
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218. I'd rather have the character you developed for yourself by having that job
than all of their money.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:56 PM
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163. it really is disgusting.
i just don't get how anybody sees any of these candidates as worthwhile or viable.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:43 AM
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16. The continued race to return to the 1880's
there is a special place for these people and Dante comes to mind.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:46 AM
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17. I DID work on the janitorial crew for our school when I was 15, back in 1995
I have no idea what he's talking about with regard to laws preventing children from working. In fact, I was employed through either a state or federal program (I forget which) that provided tax-free summer employment to children of low-income families. I was paid minimum wage and worked 40 hr a week during summer break, along with 4 other students and the two full-time janitors. I showed up at the school at 7am, painted, buffed floors, carried school supplies, mowed grass, did minor repairs, etc, took a 30-min lunch break, and went home at 3:30pm. THEN I had chores to do around the farm.

Have the laws been changed since then to prevent such work? I truly enjoyed that job; it wasn't back-breaking labor like baling hay, paid better than what my parents gave me, allowed me to bank over $1000 that summer alone, gave me something to put down on future job applications, and was actually fun working with classmates.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:14 AM
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20. You're missing the point. Gingrich wants 6,7, 8yr olds, etc. to work.
Must earn your keep you know? God forbid that adults do the jobs that preteens can do.

For the record, I had my first paying job at 14. Worked construction all summer between 8th and 9th grade. I did it because I wanted to, not because it was the only way I could afford to pay for my crappy school lunches. Because you know that's where Gingrich and his ilk are headed.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:30 AM
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23. Ah, I see that now
Though to be fair, he did "only" mention something in the article about kids 9-14 years of age.

Yeah, anything before 14 yr or so is probably not a good idea.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:26 AM
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39. ... and that's why it's illegal. nt.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:38 PM
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180. And I doubt he intends it to be 'voluntary'. And what of students who are having trouble learning?
What will a work day do to them?

Oh, well, maybe they can flunk out and end up as Boehner said 'You were born to be a ditch digger because your parents didn't work hard enough to pay your college tuition, so just get on with it.'

Still, I'm glad you had a good experience with it. There was something similar at my high school, which also taught vocational skills for those not planning to go to college. They had a beauty school to teach that profession, automotive and wood shop, also ROTC for those who wanted to go that route.

I'm sure Newt's solution is to privatize or charter school after shutting the public, take all comers, schools down. We have too many people looking for work and TPTB don't care about educating them to get better lives, they just want them to die out of sight.

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:27 AM
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22. He wants YOUNGER kids to be "able" to work. Much younger.
He wants to change the current labor laws that allowed you to work at 15.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:31 AM
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24. Gingirch is talking about them working at much younger ages, and during school
He's complaining that children under 14 can't do work like being a janitor, and claims that successful people all started work between 9 and 14. And he wants to fire adult janitors, who do the work all through the year, and replace them with the poor children. So they'd be doing this work during the school year, clearing up after their richer classmates, and no doubt getting very tired with their schoolwork suffering. But it would suit him to have poor children visibly serving the richer ones.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:07 AM
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18. Right idea, wrong cast of characters
It's members of Congress who should be cleaning up their own shit so they remember what a noble, privileged position janitors have.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:07 AM
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19. Can you imagine the stigma?
Such a program would only "allow" the poor students to be school janitors? Apparently, it's no longer enough that poor students endure the shame and humiliation of hand-me-down clothes and lunch program vouchers; now they should have to clean up the school for everyone else?

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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:43 AM
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73. Exactly...Schools are having issues with bullying now...I somehow doubt
this would help.:eyes:
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:37 PM
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118. I imagine bullies would leave a literal turd on the floor for their victims
there is a metaphor here for the Republican vision of the future
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:27 PM
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151. I wouldn't be surprised. n/t
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:20 AM
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21. "Back into the coal-mines, ya runts!"
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:07 PM
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109. Life in the Coal Mine...
Work in the coal breakers is exceedingly hard and dangerous. Crouched over the chutes, the boys sit hour after hour, picking out the pieces of slate and other refuse from the coal as it rushes past to the washers. From the cramped position they have to assume, most of them become more or less deformed and bent-backed like old men. When a boy has been working for some time and begins to get round-shouldered, his fellows say that Hes got his boy to carry round wherever he goes.

The coal is hard, and accidents to the hands, such as cut, broken, or crushed fingers, are common among the boys. Sometimes there is a worse accident: a terrified shriek is heard, and a boy is mangled and torn in the machinery, or disappears in the chute to be picked out later smothered and dead. Clouds of dust fill the breakers and are inhaled by the boys, laying the foundations for asthma and miners' consumption.

I once stood in a breaker for half an hour and tried to do the work a twelve-year-old boy was doing day after day, for ten hours at a stretch, for sixty cents a day. The gloom of the breaker appalled me. Outside the sun shone brightly, the air was pellucid , and the birds sang in chorus with the trees and the rivers. Within the breaker there was blackness, clouds of deadly dust enfolded everything, the harsh, grinding roar of the machinery and the ceaseless rushing of coal through the chutes filled the ears. I tried to pick out the pieces of slate from the hurrying stream of coal, often missing them; my hands were bruised and cut in a few minutes; I was covered from head to foot with coal dust, and for many hours afterwards I was expectorating some of the small particles of anthracite I had swallowed.

I could not do that work and live, but there were boys of ten and twelve years of age doing it for fifty and sixty cents a day. Some of them had never been inside of a school; few of them could read a childs primer. True, some of them attended the night schools, but after working ten hours in the breaker the educational results from attending school were practically nil. We goes fer a good time, an we keeps de guys wots dere hoppin all de time, said little Owen Jones, whose work I had been trying to do. . . .

--snip--

http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5571/
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:36 AM
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25. Back to the shirt factories! With no fire escapes.
It's pretty obvious that he's playing a mind-fuck game with Republicans.

He must have a bet with someone, that says, "No matter how stupid a policy I propose, I can get the rest of these idiots to agree, and praise my brilliance"!
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bl968 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:01 AM
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26. The first step is the hardest
Step 1. Change Child Labor Laws to allow children as young as 5 years old to work.
Step 2. Require any student receiving free or reduced price lunches to work to reimburse the state for their "free ride"
Step 3.....
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:27 AM
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29. Step 4: Profit!
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:56 AM
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31. Where is that from?
It's the second time I've seen it. First was in response to a Facebook post of mine.

TlalocW
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:59 AM
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32. I think it comes from here
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 05:59 AM by sakabatou
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:53 PM
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138. The South Park Underwear Gnomes' business model.
Step one: Steal underwear.

Step two: ????

Step three: Profit!
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:31 AM
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30. Would the Newtie's child laborers earn the same wage as the unemployed Union janitor? Newtie's idea
is to forcefully remove a child's childhood.
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:06 AM
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34. Moralizing hypocrite
But Newt, I've been hearing recently from your sociopathic, grifter base that capitalism, essentially, rendered child labor unnecessary because of the productivity advances brought about by the economic system. Yet, you posit this - I guess - as a serious idea.

So, is the system as productive as advertised or are you just a nihilistic, con-man asshole?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:11 AM
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35. Let me try to sort this out. He just jumped to the top rethug contender.
He divorced his wife on her death bed.

He took millions from one of the worst offenders in the great crash of '08.

And now, ladies and gentlemen, he wants to put America's poorest children to work.

Doing what? Cleaning lavatories to straighten out what's wrong with America?

Seriously. The repukes are more pukey than ever. Puke on, thugs! You've dug your own grave, now sleep in it!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:41 AM
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59. That sounds like an outline for a TeeVee ad.
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HowHeThinks Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:15 AM
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36. It amazes me......
that Republicans actually think this guy would be a good President. What goes on in the minds of the typical GOP voter? :shrug: They're so easily manipulated, so easily convinced that their best interests are the PROBLEM with this country. :crazy: Critical thinking skills are not a RepubliCANT'S best attribute. I often wonder if they're capable of critical thinking at all, or if their overwhelming zeal to please those in authority is the only stimulus that keeps electrical impulses firing through their minuscule brains.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:19 AM
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37. Gingrich is intimately acquainted with stupid - he sees it looking out of his mirror daily
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 06:24 AM by tavalon
And when he looks at his ass, he sees a tail with a spike on the end, a gift from an old friend.
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youbetterwork Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:03 AM
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53. careful
To assume that he is just stupid you need to be ignorant of the fact that he has a PhD in modern European history from Tulane.

He was a science teacher, a history teacher, and a geography teacher.

His dissertation was on "Belgian Education Policy in the Congo." Tulane doesn't give those papers out like Chiclets. I know that he has discussed childhood education with really smart people for months on end. Those discussions would surely have included the real science (which we knew even in 1971 when he studied) that childhood education truly breaks the poverty cycle and that childhood work programs do not. Science is cool like that.

He isn't just stupid. He's cruel. His arguments are not good faith arguments. He isn't trying to solve the problems, because he knows the actual science connected to the cure but refuses to advocate for it.
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youbetterwork Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:08 AM
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54. also
I meant the third person YOU.. as in all people.

Looking back on my post it seems a little hostile towards you for saying that he is stupid. I didn't intend that...

thanks...
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:39 AM
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58. I stand corrected
He's a monster in the rovian model.
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:04 AM
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97. You mean the Belgian education policy in the Congo where they
held the wives and children of miners in gulags and chopped off their limbs to "encourage" the miners to be more productive?


I learned about that as a freshman econ major at Texas A&M in the early 70s.

It was thought to be cruel, even by economists.

Newt is damaged. The Unabomber was an academic as well. Too many different sorts of intelligences abound to make any real statement about that, but we can certainly point out sociopathic behaviors, as has been done on this thread and many others previously.

The interview with his hideous parents years ago on television should put to rest any wondering about where he got the damage, but he's too fucked to fix now.

Wishing him an early and earned dirt nap from clogged arteries, exploded system, or other infarction, I'll close my feelings about him.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:33 PM
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155. hideous parents?
I'd really be interested to see that interview, since I came from a damaging childhood too. Only I worked hard to recover----plus I'm not a psychopath at heart.

I didn't know about that "productivity" plan in the Congo, but I was a freshman in the mid 70's, didn't take any Econ classes either...and as I said, I was very damaged. What you describe is....beyond unbelievable.... I'm speechless :(
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:28 PM
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168. Here's a snippet from the Connie Chung interview - there's bound to be
more that a longer search would turn up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vecw539MjWM


And yes, certainly, anyone who is willing to work can change themselves, but lazy fuckers who think they're already superior won't do that - hence, Newt.

Footnote to King Leopold and his Congo enterprise: he desperately needed money for gifts so that a 19 year old girl he was pursuing would have sex with him. She got a palace in the middle of a lake and more than a billion dollars worth of gifts in today's values - but it's unknown if she ever did consent.

Delightful, these Western morals, are they not?
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:05 PM
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221. thanks for that link, plumbob
don't have time right this second, but I will check it out!!!!




King Leopold......ugh. Powerful men poisoned with greed, testosterone and nothing to reign them in...disgusting is a grievous UNDERSTATEMENT.

Not to mention, Newtie would have been WELL aware of the whole thing.....


ugh.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:36 AM
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41. Newt Gingrich is 'truly stupid'
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:11 AM
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42. Of all the Republican asshole candidates
Gingrich is the most assholiest.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:50 AM
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93. ...and I hope he is their candidate...
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Bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:11 AM
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43. What's wrong with letting kids earn extra money?
I had a paper rout and mowed lawns and cut trees at 13....
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pschoeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:53 AM
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61. You can do all those things now
The child labor laws only limit the amount of time a child under 16 can work during the day and week, some jobs are not allowed at all because they are too hazardous or unhealthy for children. The laws also maintain a minimum wage, as well as making sure the child is willingly working.

So knowing all this, what do you think Newt wants?
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:11 AM
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98. I teach in a large high school of more than 3500 enrollment. You think
some kids are ridiculed now?

Can't wait to see the "classy" kids pour out their drink on the floor, and say, "Hey, janitor-boy? Clean that UP before you get fired!"

High school is not cruel enough already for those without proper clothes, the neat accessories, a phone of latest design, clear complexion, expensive haircut?

In addition, 85% of the students here qualify for free or reduced lunch, and there are 4 janitors to clean five buildings scattered across 6 city blocks. 3 of those janitors don't deserve to keep their jobs to support their families in this lousy economy?

Paper routes and mowing lawns have a couple of things in common - they can be begun or quit at leisure, and neither is performed in the company and service of other kids.


One last thought - which will have priority - mopping somebody's puke right now or going to science lab?
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:40 AM
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102. +1
Outstanding & well said.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:19 PM
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146. Bet there'll be no response from Bo
Just a feeling I have.
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Moonwalk Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:06 PM
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203. I dunno. What is wrong with a 9-year-old using hazardous chemicals....
To clean toilets, instead of doing school work--i.e., no labor laws means he can work instead of going to school--and doing it for a pittance that won't buy him much, instead of the money going to a unionized adult janitor who not only can better handle such hazardous chemicals, but use the fair wage the union got him to feed his family?

Please don't compare apples and oranges here. Newt isn't suggesting that kids start lemonade stands on the weekend or that teens to work the register at a burger joint over the summer. He wants to take away jobs from adults, take away the unions that make sure those adults get a fair wage, and give them to kids (no union to make sure they're safe or earning a fair wage or working fair hours) even those now considered hazardous for kids.

Does that really sound right to you?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:19 AM
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46. this from a guy that never put in a real days work in his life...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:25 AM
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47. Chickenhawk Newtie is hurling mud at janitors?
beyond pathetic.
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red dog 1 Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:30 PM
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205. Chickenhawk Newbie is hurling mud only at UNION janitors.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:35 AM
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48. Whoa. Just 2 days ago I explained to my 10-yr old granddaughter what OWS
movement is about. One of many reasons being protection of labor laws for the health and safety of workers, and that keep little girls like her in school instead of having to work. Her eyes popped out. Yeah well, Newtie just made my eyes pop out. Unbelievable.

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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:33 PM
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154. Show your granddaughter this thread.
Then she'll know that what you said was literally true.
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Dutchmaster Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:47 AM
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49. Is he saying this as a candidate or a historian?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:47 AM
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50. THis man is disgusting , we all knew
but it seems he is going out of his way to remind us what a subhuman piece of shit he really is.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:56 AM
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51. He wants them to pay for their subsidized school lunches.
Newt is one of two congressmen who voted against subsidized lunches every single year.
No doubt he wants the students to pay for them, and no doubt, while earning less than
minimum wage...$2.50 an hour maybe?
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:56 AM
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52. He wants them to pay for their subsidized school lunches.
Newt is one of two congressmen who voted against subsidized lunches every single year.
No doubt he wants the students to pay for them, and no doubt, while earning less than
minimum wage...$2.50 an hour maybe?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:24 AM
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55. I know who is "truly stupid"..
... and yet somehow he gets tagged with the mantle of "thinker".

"Thinking" bullshit does not make you a thinker.
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alterfurz Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:19 PM
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192. "Newt Gingrich is a stupid mans idea of what a smart person sounds like."
-- Paul Krugman, quoting "somebody once said"
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:33 AM
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56. An awful, evil man from an awful, evil party. Yuck. /nt
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:35 AM
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57. I believe these sorts of nonsensical statements are purposefully made
and calculated to get the maximum amount of media attention (these degenerates don't care if it's negative or positive attention). Every one of the dysfunctional GOP candidates has made one when the camera has looked away from them.

It almost seems like they have now been paid off to be the red-meat generators for the repuke "base" in order to divert from the big business establishment who are busy gaming the system in the background.
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youbetterwork Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:03 AM
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63. I agree
But this is not just a one off "gaffe".

He has been saying this for ages. He was the one who fought so hard to put the welfare + work thing together during Clinton's years in office. He's being very consistent about putting children to work, and the media should point that out. Instead it's put out there like an odd statement or something said off the cuff, when actually it's a lifelong position...
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:42 AM
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60. Are there no Stupid Houses? n/t
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:54 AM
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62. Just what I expect from ol' Newty
During the Clinton administration, my father, a Repug, had Newt's book "To Renew America". I started reading some of it.


It is clear to me, just from reading some of one of Newty's many books, that he is as insane as Bachmann. He is completely nuts and should never be near any kind of public office. He is certainly not fit to be president, like all the GOP nominees.
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vademocrat Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:09 AM
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65. The GOP truly does want to repeal the entire 20th century!
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:11 AM
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66. Ulitmately kids could be selling his "books" &"DVD's" door to door
at below legal wages. I believe that's his underlying plan.

Why does anyone repeat what this con man has to say?
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:14 AM
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67. I started working at 12 - in the summer - there was a nearby "pickle farm"
They used migrant workers to pick the cucumbers and get them ready for processing. The owners had a large farm house and 4 children under 10. There were 4 of us girls and we worked in teams of 2 usually - every other day. We were 12-14 yrs old in age. We cleaned the house, did laundry, watched the kids, and prepared home-cooked meals (3x day - we worked 6am-6pm) for the owners, managers and kids (usually 10-12 folks).

Myself and my girlfriends did this job for $1/hr. We were pretty good at it too - we all were working class kids with brothers and sisters. At the end of the summer my dad turned them into the state for labor violations & we got back pay (minimum wage was 3.25 or so back then). They also had been turned in for migrant violations so they had some serious problems there (there were migrant children younger than us working in the fields).

This is why we need minimum wages laws, unions, and strong support for labor. Poor kids always have to work - and with folks like Gingrich around it will only get worse and worse.
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 08:03 PM
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225. Your dad = brave. :-)
I would've done the same thing he did.........we need more courageous acts like that. =)
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:24 AM
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68. One reason kids drop out of school
Is that they would rather make money working for a living. It's not that they don't have a work ethic, it's the lure of a paycheck that keeps some kids from graduating. I've seen it many times.

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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:26 AM
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69. I beg to differ with the up thread comment that Newt isn't stupid.
It's stupid to take jobs away from janitors who are supporting themselves and families! Sorry but I know many with advanced degrees who do not possess an ounce of social sense. Obviously Newt is steeped in stupidity with this latest reactionary notion he publically professed.

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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:36 AM
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71. OMG...Yes, let's destroy unions by reversing century old Child Labor laws and putting kids to work
"Teach them a good work ethic" and their "place" in society, no doubt.

Is this guy real?:eyes:
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:41 AM
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72. I run outside a large elementary school in the evenings
and I watch the two janitors in there working very hard for the one or two hours which I am outside of the school (and I run at differen times and they always seem to be busy). I cannnot imagine expecting children to do that work. They should be home studying - that is their job now.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:47 AM
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75. Newt, you ugly, old bastard do the world a favor --
fuck off and die.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:48 AM
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76. One Master janitor, that pretty much sums up Newt's utopia.
One Master.
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jdadd Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:49 AM
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77. I feel dyslexic.......
Every time I see Gingrich in print, I read Grinch. Maybe it's some kind of sublimanal Message, huh?
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:52 AM
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78. Republicans deny the reality of abuse
because they condone torture, subjugation of woman and sweat shops.

I swear these people have blind spots so vast they are looking at life through a straw.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:57 AM
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80. Republicans have truly lost their minds
No department of education, no EPA, no unions, no regulations, no child labor laws. Yeah cause the 1800's were such a great time.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:10 AM
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82. The GOP is now officially the party of the insane. They
need to be publicly shamed for shit like this.
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KeyserSoze87 Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:14 AM
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83. Why stop there, Newt?
Why not just go all the way and bring back slavery while you're at it? Holy shit, I hate these people.

:mad:
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citizen blues Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:17 AM
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84. My grandfather had permanent nerve damage from working.....
in coal mines starting at the age of 8. Because of his size,they would send him into areas too small for grown men. He often ended up standing in hip deep in ice water. The nerve damage was permanent, he never did fully regain the feeling in his legs. He had a 3rd grade education.

I am just speechless that any politician would even say these words, let alone mean them! Have we truly lost all sense of decency in this country? Each day I'm more and more and more disillusioned......... no, more like disgusted with the USA.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:17 AM
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85. Newt: You first. For the first time in your life, clean a toilet.
Instead of being a toilet.
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Iliyah Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:29 AM
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87. Pay the students .25 cents
an hour, which would get rid of the adult janitors pay with benefits which I think is the most important aspect of Newt's reasoning behind his child slavery act. Teach them how the clean early in order for them to become the next generation of slaves for the 1%. Keep them dumb enough so that the 99% children will be forever in the 1% control.

Newt I bet the 1% children will be exempt, huh.
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idiotgardener Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:51 PM
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123. That's less than a penny.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:26 AM
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86. And, Rachel says that Herman Cain's campaign is performance art....
Newt has him beat by a mile. This has got to be a huge joke he's pulling on his party.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:38 AM
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88. That gets to the core of what the 1% want
Return to the days of sweatshop labor and the children work and don't go to school.

This is extremely revealing!
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:44 AM
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89. Pot says to kettle, "You're black!"
What an ass!
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Riley18 Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:45 AM
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90. My mom remembers how the nuns let her work after school
because her family was so poor after the Depression. She made $20.00 a month for sweeping their stairs and they always had a piece of cake and a glass of milk waiting for her. Somehow, the fat evil troll bastard has twisted that idea into an unholy and disgusting way to further enslave the 99%.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:47 AM
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91. Bringing down wages and building a permanent underclass
Yeah, let's send underprivileged children into the workforce and get rid of the unionized jobs of adults. Scott Walker must be impressed. And while we're at it, let's do away with age of consent laws and go back to the 19th century with children in brothels. Gingrich should make his campaign slogan "Bridge Into The New Gilded Age".
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:47 AM
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92. I guess he doesn't want the nomination either?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:51 AM
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94. Slave labor.
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 10:52 AM by Avalux
Why Americans can't understand what Republicans want to do to us in collusion with the ruling class is beyond comprehension.

A nation of a few controlling everything with the rest of us as serfs who will be desperate to do anything to eat. To them we are expendable commodities; they don't care if we live or die.

That is their vision of the perfect United States.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:56 AM
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95. imo Newt is a corrupt con man - it's amazing that anyone is still fooled by him.
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Tom Ripley Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:12 PM
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142. Agreed. He really does come off like a 19th or early 20th century medicine show
quack full of ballyhoo and bullshit.
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:16 AM
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99. This Makes Sense To People Like Gingrich
Because all regulation is bad to him. Both child labor laws and unions are burdensome regulations in the eyes of those like Gingrich and that is why Gingrich is using this particular linkage, never mind that it doesn't hold water. It's just that Gingrich doesn't have the guts to frame it using the real reason he thinks this is true.
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:27 AM
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100. there is a moderate distinction between child labor and kids cleaning their classrooms like they do
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 11:30 AM by firehorse
in Japan.

Kids clean their schools in japan, but its not like bad or poor kids are singled out. They aren't doing it for money or for punishment. Everyone, everyday from little kids on up who go to school are all responsible for maintaining their school.

They do it because its their place to learn and it teaches them good things such as pride and to care for their school giving them a sense of ownership and responsibility. It's a similar mentality to keeping yourself clean and your home clean. I've always liked the way Japan goes about it. You are not going to see kids doing grafitti or bringing weapons like you do in the U.S. when you grow up in an environment to care for your place of learning.

Gingrich's ideas just seem like they are coming from some distorted place, and more about ripping regulations and stepping on unions toes than from a genuine place of care and respect.
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:39 PM
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119. Newt Is Not Talking About
Keeping the classroom picked up. He is specifically talking about replacing union janitors with children. He would probably demand that the schools pay these children less than minimum wage (another regulation he would like to eliminate). Janitor work can't all be done before and after normal school hours so would he pull these kids out of the classroom for emergency repairs? I do agree with your last paragraph though.
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pbrower2a Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:29 PM
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188. OK, a little clean-up
Children do need to learn the virtue of neatness in their environment, so it is reasonable to expect them to pick up their dropped crayons and large pieces of paper. But that is responsibility for what one does.

As a substitute teacher I have been told to refer any gross messes (like vomit, urine, or blood) to the janitor who has some training in potentially-hazardous materials. That is the policy for regular teachers as well. There can be some scary stuff in those messes.

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:37 AM
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101. I assumed this was from The Onion.
Wow.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:46 AM
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103. If he wants to see truly stupid look no further than the Republican field of Presidential candidates
While he is at it he can find truly stupid in the mirror.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:04 PM
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107. A toxic Newt is the very best that the GOP has to offer.
And I know some republicans who love Newt even more than the love Ann Coulter!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:06 PM
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108. "Strong work ethic?"
:rofl:

The anti-union, pro-Wall Street Republican believes in a "strong work ethic?"
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pbrower2a Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:39 PM
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213. Work without pay, of course
Economic elites have almost always sought to inculcate a work ethic without economic rewards. In a perverse parody of Marx' "From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs", they seek to extract as much toil as possible for as little as possible to those who do the work -- and they keep the difference. It's easy enough to figure what the bare needs are -- just to keep people from starving and freezing. But maximal effort? That comes from the lash. Anyone who dissents is cast off to starve slowly or die some horrific death.

Capitalism became humane when capitalists started competing for workers... and found that the best way to prevent a proletarian revolution was to make the proletariat into a market, which takes solid pay and limited hours of toil. But as the capitalists combine to preclude competition, things get dreadful for workers. We begin to see that now. The current economic elites have no virtues and no morals except for fear of their world crashing down upon them. There's nothing to teach them any ethical values. Religion for them is a tool for controlling the proles but not a guide to behavior. They have no problem with war so long as they make the profit and someone else does the dying -- and their assets remain intact.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:08 PM
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110. holy fuck!!! what a monster...nt
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Arby Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:09 PM
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111. Conservatives in the USA
adhere to two guiding principles when promoting their extreme policies:

- Only a crisis -- actual or perceived -- produces real changes. When the crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around. That, I believe, is our basic function: to develop alternatives to existing policies to keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes politically inevitable." - Milton Friedman

- We will make it so that a Democrat cannot govern as a Democrat.
GROVER NORQUIST, 2003, speech at his 25th college reunion
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:12 PM
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112. How about giving that kid's mother or father a good
union janitorial job cleaning the schools so that kid can go to school and onward without having to work at low wage servitude instead?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:23 PM
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113. Headline Edit! Gingrich IDEAS "are truly stupid!"
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:28 PM
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114. This is why rethugs love sending their companies to China and other
such nations. Cheap child labor. They are criminals.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:28 PM
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115. Newt is 'truly stupid'
children should learn about work from their parents, not slave owners.

My first job, at a restaurant paid 50 cents an hour, Newtie.

Those jobs he's talking about should go to adults that need work.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:47 PM
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120. Gingrich is one of RW's most adept propagandists ... this is direction they're going in ...
We'd be a much healthier nation -- all of us -- if we took the emphasis off of

dollar bills and got back to concern for human beings ---

and the planet!!


Let's just uninvent the dollar -- and stop judging everything by the yardstick of

a dollar bill!!
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:47 PM
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121. This is the end game when public education is eliminated
Children whose parents can't afford private schools will enter the workforce
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LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:48 PM
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122. That evil bastard couldn't win in a fair election...
OK, anyone remember the last time the GOP even fought fair in a major election?
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DreamSmoker Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:56 PM
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124. Just another Brick in the Wall (K&R)
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:58 PM
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125. Since unemployment is high, this does not make any sense
Regardless about what anyone thinks about whether or not children should work. It would make more sense to allow their parents to be employed full time at a living wage. If you have almost all employable adults working full time who desire full time employment, employed at a living wage, only then should we be talking about employing younger children.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:06 PM
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126. Why not force the very wealthy to clean the schools for nothing to teach them a strong work ethic?
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 01:06 PM by valerief
And since they're so rich, they can give money to poor kids. You know, share their wealth.
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ChadwickHenryWard Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:13 PM
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127. Evil. Truly evil. n/t
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:19 PM
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128. "... get rid of unionized janitors ..."
Unionized janitors. The rest is obviously horrible, but I suspect your motive's right there.
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:23 PM
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129. How the fuck do people like him do that with their mouth?
Palin, Bachmann, Tommy Davis (the spokesman for scientology)...I'm sure there's more...

I've tried doing that with my mouth while looking in the mirror, I seem to lack the muscles, and no one else I know can pull off that pout either.

I suspect it is a warning for all of us who cannot grimace like that that the person who can is selfish, immature, short-sighted and fucking meaner than a shithouse rat.
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mysuzuki2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:24 PM
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130. I keep expecting that Newtie or one of his buddies
to suggest bringing back slavery. I mean, what's next? How low can they go?
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rizlaplus Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:29 PM
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131. Why not have the children build the schools?

If anything it shows the Republicans are bereft of ideas that don't have a root in the 19th. century.

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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:36 PM
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133. the unemployment rate is really over 10% and
he wants to add kids?
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:36 PM
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134. This guy just misses the point, doesn't he?
We shouldn't have kids living in such poor conditions that they need to work as janitors to help put dinner on the table. I like the idea of a work ethic, but there are other, better ways to instill it.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:45 PM
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136. Exactly. As a substitute teacher, I come in contact with these types of kids
on a daily basis. Their families are so poor that half the kids in a class don't have a snack packed for them. Sometimes they don't even have a lunch. Their parents need better opportunities, not the kids working when they should be in class or after school studying. Newt is an idiot!
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:37 PM
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135. And there you have it
Child slave labor based on your economic caste. A flooded job market with too many people making too little to live on.

As other people have said above, this is the 1%'s utopian vision.

Funny how he didn't even dress it up, huh? Your children are now on the chopping block.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:46 PM
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137. And some people actually support him to be the next POTUS???
Words totally fail me.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:18 PM
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145. newtistheir#1tearoarist


(A tribute to DUer Swamp Rat.)
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:57 PM
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139. Your child, too, can be known as "the little match girl."
:banghead:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:08 PM
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140. and they can replace the illegal immigrants picking fruits & veggies
in California and other places.
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Tom Ripley Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:09 PM
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141. Newt = PT Barnum as psychopath
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usrname Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:15 PM
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143. For a history professor...
He doesn't seem to know much of history. Child labor laws weren't created in a vacuum by faceless bureaucrats fronting for unions, itching to squeeze every last dime from employers. They were created in response to unending tragedy and misery hoisted on the poor, especially the children of the poor who had no say in how they arrived to their lot in life.

So to suggest that we should eliminate child labor laws sounds rather ignorant of the historical roots of those laws.
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nobodyspecial Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:34 PM
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156. It's not ignorance
That's exactly the type of society they want to create. All of these pesky regulations just stand in their way.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:16 PM
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144. Rich one Gingrich
This from a guy who makes his living selling fake awards. Let's not forget all those consulting and lobbying fees for doing absolutely nothing.
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:19 PM
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147. Newt should be cleaning toilets in a federal prison!
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:20 PM
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148. Oh...My...GAWD! This guy is evil, evil, evil...
My gawd. I'm not even sure what to say or where to start.

Suffice to say...YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE, Newty. WHAT SCUM you are, Newty.

Such a perfect Poster Child for the GOPBagger / T.Hater / Ultra Christian / CONservaturd...and
we see what your "party" supports...

abusing CHILDREN!

Sick!!!!!

...counting down to the flip-flop.
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The Genealogist Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:25 PM
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150. Another piece of the New Gilded Age puzzle falls into place
Except this New Gilded Age will make the first one look like a big old socialist utopia. We are pretty far along as it is, this insane idea is just another step closer.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:28 PM
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152. In other news: work houses, company stores and job tests are all the rage again.
jackass.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:31 PM
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153. This is who the Rethuglicans are offering us. Pure hatred.
I'm 60. If he somehow becomes president, I will have to leave this nation. Won't be easy, but no choice.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:38 PM
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157. Delete "Laws preventing child labor are"
and you'll have an accurate headline. :P
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:42 PM
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158. Cannot even contain my rage at the number of levels this is WRONG!
Kids go to school to LEARN, Newt, not work. Little kids don't need work ethic, they need employed parents who can support them while they LEARN. Not being able to work at the age of 9 is not "entrapment" in poor neighborhoods, living in poverty with no ability for their PARENTS to get out of it is entrapment. ARRRRGGGHHHH!!! That this man is even considered a legitimate candidate for the highest office in the land is mind-boggling to me.

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MarkCharles Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:43 PM
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159. What is the youngest age at which a person can be employed?
What is the youngest age at which a person can be employed?
The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets 14 as the minimum age for most non-agricultural work. However, at any age, youth may deliver newspapers; perform in radio, television, movie, or theatrical productions; work in businesses owned by their parents (except in mining, manufacturing or hazardous jobs); and perform babysitting or perform minor chores around a private home. Also, at any age, youth may be employed as homeworkers to gather evergreens and make evergreen wreaths.
Different age requirements apply to the employment of youth in agriculture.
Many states have enacted child labor laws, some of which may have a minimum age for employment which is higher than the FLSA. Where both the FLSA and state child labor laws apply, the higher minimum standard must be obeyed.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:46 PM
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160. Newtie, Newtie, Newtie.
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 03:19 PM by Brigid
This isn't the nineteenth century. Get a clue.

So now school janitors are to have their jobs threatened by grade-schoolers? Eight-year-olds are to run buffers and scrub toilets? Is that really what you want, Newt? Really? Holy Mother of God. :banghead:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:51 PM
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161. No, what he'd really like to see is...
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:34 PM
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170. Wow. Cool site.
But those pictures! :cry:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:13 PM
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185. Sad, but that is exactly the what the Newtcases would like it to be...
like next year.

Even worse conditions for the parents of the kids.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:52 PM
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162. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care.
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MarkCharles Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:03 PM
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164. When and how many hours can youth work?
"When and how many hours can youth work?
Under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), the minimum age for employment in non-agricultural employment is 14. Hours worked by 14- and 15-year-olds are limited to:
Non-school hours;
3 hours in a school day;
18 hours in a school week;
8 hours on a non-school day;
40 hours on a non-school week; and
hours between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. (except from June 1 through Labor Day, when evening hours are extended to 9 p.m.)"


http://www.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/028.htm
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:10 PM
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165. What a disgusting piece of shit he is.
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:




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nadine_mn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:12 PM
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166. Am I the only also outraged at the "get rid of the unionized janitor"
I think the "let children work" is a smokescreen for his real agenda - get rid of unionized janitor - cuz those unions are so bad.

sigh

its all stupid, just not sure what to be more outraged about
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:20 PM
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167. Put those little buggers to work.......interesting.....
think how much it would save corporate America we could have sub-minimum wages...


1. Missouri state Senator Jane Cunningham has proposed a bill that would modify child labor laws, eliminating the prohibition on employment of children under 14.

2. Newly minted Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah said in a lecture posted to his YouTube channel that Congressional laws banning child labor are forbidden by the US Constitution.

Congress decided it wanted to prohibit that practice, so it passed a law. No more child labor. The Supreme Court heard a challenge to that law, and the Supreme Court decided a case in 1918 called Hammer v. Dagenhardt, Lee said. In that case, the Supreme Court acknowledged something very interesting that, as reprehensible as child labor is, and as much as it ought to be abandoned thats something that has to be done by state legislators, not by Members of Congress.

Lees reasoning was that labor and manufacturing are by their very nature, local activities and not interstate commercial transactions. He added: This may sound harsh, but it was designed to be that way. It was designed to be a little bit harsh.

3. Rep. David Burns, R-Whiting, is sponsoring the bill, which also would eliminate the maximum number of hours a minor over 16 can work during school days.

Burns said the bill empowers both employers and employees and that employers would have more opportunities to hire minors.

An employers got to have employees, so they can decide what they want to pay, Burns said. The student wants to have a job, and they can decide what theyre willing to work for.





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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:30 PM
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169. Well, at least he got the ''truly stupid'' part right. :-/ - K&R n/t
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:42 PM
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171. Unemployment (the real %) is in the high teens/low twenties
And it's "stupid" to limit the hours that children can work?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:00 PM
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172. To call this man a pig, is an insult to pigs. nt
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:11 PM
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174. To call him a piece of shit is an insult to, well, shit.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:17 PM
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175. LOL! Yup! nt
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:25 PM
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178. The bacteria that break down excrement would find Gingrich unpalatable
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:38 PM
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190. LMAO!!!
:rofl:
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 01:30 AM
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232. he'd gag a maggot
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Marthe48 Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:05 PM
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173. Family-owned grocery store, working at 8
I went to school, went to the store to work. No allowance. I wasn't abused, but my childhood was sacrificed. When I had my kids, I taught them how to do things and they had some easy chores, but I didn't want them to work, even around the house. Both are college grads in super responsible positions, married and just really good people. Gingrich is an idiot and he doesn't have a clue about real life.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:19 PM
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176. Well, maybe Newtie could tap Tom Corbett to be his running mate.
Their platform: WE REFUSE TO PROTECT CHILDREN!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:21 PM
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177. Moving down the pyramid

First it was the bureacrats in the Education Department that wanted to push same sex agenda.

Then it was local school administrators pushing out prayer.

School teachers were the obvious next target.

Now the janitors are stealing from the kids.

The city trash collectors must be the last target,
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:31 PM
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179. Could you imagine what Newt would do with Tiny Tim?
:scared:
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:52 PM
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181. Maybe these lazy kids need to...
Walk 10 miles,in the snow to school, too... won't that save the cost of transportation in the school district and think the added bonus is it cuts down on carbon emissions from all the school buses hence preventing global climate change....

Parents just have to make sure them kiddies is up and outtta the house by 3 a.m. so they don't miss the 8 o'clock bell....

:sarcasm: :eyes:
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:08 PM
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182. Scrubbing toilets is RISING?
:eyes:

(And, funny thing how Newt only suggests this for kids at POOR schools...because, of course, you would never want children of HIS class to have to clean anything...)

Basically, Newt wants to teach poor kids the "three r's"(two of which are actually spelling errors, for the record)and the "K,Y, And P"(Know Your Place).
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:25 PM
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186. The link between poverty and poor education: school funding from property tax.
I'm not really sure how reinforcing and even encouraging already ugly inequalities is a good thing when there are other solutions to the problem that would have a better result.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:28 PM
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187. Child labor - a virtually untapped source of cheap labor! The man is a genius.
A completely mad, insane, genius who should be locked away.
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MarkCharles Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:30 PM
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189. Think of the billions of dollars in taxpayer money we could save if we just..
fired all the public employees and gave the jobs to kids at minimum wage or less!
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:08 PM
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191. If a Democrat did this, Fox News would be all over them
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:19 PM
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193. Ketchup is a vegetable. EOM
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:37 PM
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194. Notice that he didn't say the kids would be paid minimum wage
That's because they wouldn't. They'd get paid whatever the school board -- which are being taken over by conservatives -- thought they "deserved." The kids would be lucky to get half minimum wage, and "they should be grateful for that!"

The main point is that it's another union-busting move by a Republican.

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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:57 PM
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196. That's what Dominionists believe, as well as the stoning of uncorrigible children.
Alex, I'll take "Christian Dominionism" for 500.
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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:40 PM
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198. Completely aside from this idiot
I do wish there were exceptions.

My 12 year-old really, really wants to work doing a certain job, but the law says no. Funny, if we had a family business doing it she could work.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:43 PM
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199. Mr. Grinch
You're a mean one, Mister Grinch
You really are a heel,
You're as cuddly as a cactus, you're as charming as an eel, Mister Grinch,

You're a bad banana with a greasy black peel!



You're a monster, Mister Grinch,
Your heart's an empty hole,
Your brain is full of spiders, you've got garlic in your soul, Mister Grinch,

I wouldn't touch you with a thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole!



You're a vile one, Mister Grinch,
You have termites in your smile,
You have all the tender sweetness of a seasick crocodile, Mister Grinch,

Given a choice between the two of you I'd take the ... seasick crocodile!



You nauseate me, Mister Grinch,
With a nauseous super "naus",
You're a crooked dirty jockey and you drive a crooked hoss, Mister Grinch,

You're a three decker sauerkraut and toadstool sandwich, with arsenic sauce!



You're a foul one, Mister Grinch,
You're a nasty wasty skunk,
Your heart is full of unwashed socks, your soul is full of gunk, Mister Grinch,

The three words that describe you are as follows, and I quote, "Stink, Stank, Stunk!"



You're a rotter, Mister Grinch,
You're the king of sinful sots,
Your heart's a dead tomato splotched with moldy purple spots, Mister Grinch,

Your soul is an appalling dump heap overflowing with the most disgraceful assortment of rubbish imaginable, mangled up in tangled up knots!
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:08 PM
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201. So that's the next thing? The Repukes want Child Labor to prop up their empire....?
Conservatives are sick SOB's....
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:22 PM
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202. I am done with Newt. He is not fun like Cain, Perry et al.
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Moonwalk Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:10 PM
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204. So...what jobs did Newt do as a child? And how often has he cleaned toilets?
Just curious. I mean, if he's speaking from experience.... :eyes:
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ChazInAz Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:44 PM
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207. Despicable toad
Makes me wonder who did what to him to make him turn out to be such a cruel, cold-hearted person.
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tonekat Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:53 PM
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208. "The door of Scrooge's counting-house was open that.....
"...he might keep his eye upon his clerk, who in a dismal little cell beyond, a sort of tank, was copying letters. Scrooge had a very small fire, but the clerk's fire was so very much smaller that it looked like one coal. But he couldn't replenish it, for Scrooge kept the coal-box in his own room; and so surely as the clerk came in with the shovel, the master predicted that it would be necessary for them to part. "
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maddogesq Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 08:07 PM
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226. I was thinking of this when I saw your post.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:00 PM
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209. they want us as slaves and child slaves are better
they can't fight back

It is good to see how far they will go

Dickens times
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:34 PM
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210. omg. never thoght I would write omg.
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dash_bannon Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:25 PM
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211. I was going to comment but...
The image of Oliver Twist below Gingrich's picture is worth more than a thousand words.

Wow! Could anyone seriously vote for Gingrich?

I'm beginning to think the 2012 election is rigged to guarantee President Obama gets a second term.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:25 PM
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212. Gingrich lies every time he opens his mouth. His 15 minutes of fame was over with in 1998.
His type of bullshit is soooo 90's.
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wakemewhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:46 PM
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214. A.H. -- your comments on that dick are right on the money.
K&R
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:01 AM
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215. Sounds like Dickens.
And that's pretty sad.
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BillyJack Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:52 AM
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216. Oh.my.gosh!!!!
:wtf:

:wow:


:wow:



:wow:


LOSER!!!!!
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:01 AM
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217. I think I've seen where this is leading to...
To Newt, an impoverished healthy child well nursed is, at a year old, a most delicious nourishing and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked or boiled; and he makes no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee, or a ragoust.

Unlike Swift, Newt would actually eat poor people's babies.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:12 AM
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220. Both my kids work and they are 3 1/2 years and 10 months
I had a job at 12. Cleaned my school for the last two years after school in order to get 1/2 off tuition.

Uphill, both ways.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:57 PM
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222. Just go away, Newt!
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 02:16 PM
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223. Note to Newt: Eat a shit sandwich, and contract a fatal disease, you fat fuck.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 03:29 PM
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224. he is SELLING shit sandwiches and calling them a chocolate cake
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 08:09 PM
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227. I want so badly to piss in his mouth n/t
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 08:38 PM
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228. Ewwwww....
:puke:
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:37 PM
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229. sorry, but I hate the fucker n/t
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:17 AM
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230. I'm going to hold my mouth right now.
Because the jokes I'd make are just crude. :P
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:33 AM
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231. He can't be serious
just a primary ploy to get the wing nuts attention.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 05:59 AM
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233. And they can get extra credit plus a little more money cleaning rich kid's schools
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