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jakeXT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 12:59 PM Original message |
Gaddafi's playboy son Saif 'makes bid for freedom across the desert' |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. the British political elite who could face acute embarrassment |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Well, it's traditional. |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Not really true. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
59. I was talking about the tradition of murdering COMPETITION, NOT COMMENTATORS. |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
63. Oh man - I can dream... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. The practice diminishes when the state replaced the tribe |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I forget where I heard it, but is he the son for whom the London School of Economics |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. I hope they catch his sorry ass. n/t |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Because? |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. A warrant for his arrest was issued in late June 2011, for crimes against humanity |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. No, I don't know anything about him - thanks for the link. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I know enough to know that if indeed he was guilty of any of this |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Be that as it may, the Libyan people consider him a criminal and they would love to get their hands |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Who are the Libyan people? The 'rebels' do not represent |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I saw massive demonstrations filling whole town squares with people supporting the rebel movement. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Libya has six million people. We also saw over one million |
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al bupp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 08:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. You are simply wrong, ma'am, Gaddafi never managed to mobilize a million people... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-11 02:51 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. Just saying 'you're wrong' is nice, but means nothing. |
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al bupp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. You say that NATO used WMDs in Libya, really? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. I imagine the main reason people are saying stuff like that is because the US was involved |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. It's sad that you seem so misinformed about the reasons for |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
62. I saw the same with people supporting the Qaddafi gov't during those |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
64. I decided to check out how these warrants were issued. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Damn. You are seriously uninformed. Or something. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I think I'm well informed, but I don't just jump on the story of the week... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Fair enough. I doubt if very many of us have kept up the intricacies of the Qaddafi family |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Wow, so people get run down for torturing and killing civilians now? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Considering the US sent detainees to Libya for torture, and to |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. But it's not the USA that has indicted him. It's the International Criminal Court. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. At the request of whom, did that court indict him? |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. There is no doubt that the system needs to be improved and sometimes it can be selective. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Well, I am not advocating that war criminals NOT be prosecuted |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
52. You *do* know how far out of the way the US has gone to try to undermine the ICC, right? |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-11 03:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. I deeply wish the United States would sign the Rome Statute. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. And the pressure on the court apparently worked, they accepted |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. Let's just ignore it all then! Yay! (nt) |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-11 05:39 AM Response to Reply #17 |
66. Based on complete lies. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Okay, you just recalibrated my opinions on exactly how naive someone can be. (nt) |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. I wonder if he's hidden himself behind a veil |
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Muskypundit (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. I hope he gets captured |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. Call me a dirty stinkin' hippie, but I hope he survives |
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KILL THE WISE ONE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Your a dirty stinkin' hippie and I agree with you - I hope he makes it too. nt |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. He has many friends in the West. Although for now, they will |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Under the international legal system, since the ICC indicted him, he is legally |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. We care about war crimes?? Since when? |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I am not xenophobic enough to think that only my country matters to me. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I agree, I am for prosecuting all war criminals. If we were to do |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
56. Make him stand trial then. I'm just sick of the death. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. I see no problem with hoping he survives and faces a fair trial for the crimes |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. So long as all those who have committed atrocities are also |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. You will get no disagreement from me that others who have committed war crimes should be |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. We had the wherewithal and still do, to hand over to the Spanish |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Even still, I think he deserves a break where the rest of his family wouldn't |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. It's ironic because he was the first domino to cause the entire thing to fall apart. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. "Playboy" lifestyle is something the media defines. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 08:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. His choosing family over reform certainly killed its share of Libyans. (nt) |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. But does one deserve death for that? Or anything, really... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. I hope he survives too, they sid they captured him *alive*, and they'll try their best to keep... |
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al bupp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 08:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
49. Why because hippies root for indicted war criminals? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Trial, sure. Death, no. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. More likely a smokescreen. |
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
9. Or....send in the drones and blow the crap out of him... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. More fun with war crimes. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
31. MSNBC: Rebels: Gadhafi's son Saif al-Islam captured alive |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. This will be the THIRD different time that's been reported. Let's see if there's a confirmation :) |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
53. Here's another UNconfirmed report that he has lost an arm |
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