Email to Walker suggested faking attack on governor

[kpete]

Source: Wisconson Watch

Email to Walker suggested faking attack on governor

Posted on March 24, 2011 by Kate Golden

Indiana prosecutor denies encouraging Wisconsin violence

By Kate Golden
Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism

Updated 3:59 p.m. Carlos Lam has admitted writing the email and resigned as deputy prosecutor of Johnson County, according to a statement from the Johnson County Prosecutor.
http://www.wisconsinwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Message-From-The-Prosecutor.pdf

The email came to Gov. Scott Walker from the personal account of a deputy prosecutor and Republican activist in Indiana.

After praise for Walker, the email — sent Feb. 19, during union demonstrations against Walker’s budget repair bill — then took a darker turn. It suggested that the situation in Wisconsin presented “a good opportunity for what’s called a ‘false flag’ operation.”

“If you could employ an associate who pretends to be sympathetic to the unions’ cause to physically attack you (or even use a firearm against you), you could discredit the unions,” the email said.



Read more: http://www.wisconsinwatch.org/2011/03/24/email-to-walker-suggested-faking-attack-on-governor/

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[Kingofalldems]

1. Repubs have not changed since Watergate

Criminal operation. We need a permanent Special Prosecutor on call to investigate them.

[vicarofrevelwood]

23. Repugs have not changed since Smedly Butler Dimed them out to FDR.

[defendandprotect]

27. Exactly -- weeded out their one time moderates and are up to thugs and

murderers now -- bottom of the barrel stuff!

and this was a prosecutor!!

[No Elephants]

98. Someone was really named "Smedley Butler?" Sounds like a perfect name for

either the mustache twirling villain of the silent movies or a really repugnant "manservant."

But, the real issue is: why you gotta make me google when I just want to post mindlessly?

[Enthusiast]

50. Actually they have changed.

They have gotten worse. And funding for their dirty tricks has increased exponentially.

Obviously they are supremely confident in their ability to hoodwink the electorate or they wouldn't be doing so many things the voters find objectionable.

[tpsbmam]

92. ITA and, sadly, they're "supremely confident in their ability to hoodwink the electorate"

because they have been so utterly successful doing it thanks to the advent of teabaggers and the general rightward move of Republicans. Voting for Republicans used to be rational. I disagreed with the policies, etc but voting for them was a rational act I just disagreed with. Now....for 90% of the Rethugs elected today, it's a totally irrational act based on, among other things, fear and the current unadulterated egomaniacal focus of Republican voters. Fear that there are too many brown people in the US and the whites will soon be in the minority and a maniacal fervor to benefit self and only self to the exclusion of said brown people. Republicans as a whole have been this way but there's an underlying panic to it like I haven't seen before (I was born at the tail end of the McCarthy era). That panic has been created & inflamed by both mainstream and radical right nutcases.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

58. Oh, what was that guy's name,

from All the President's Men? I recall what he and his cohorts called their technique, which ought to work as a search term. Why, it certainly does:

Donald Segretti

He was but one of many, of course.

[TxVietVet]

86. The conservanazis have gotten more evil.

They are using more and more of Adolf Hitler's and Joseph Goebbels' techniques. To them, nothing is illegal. Remember bu$h and Walker use the same tactics. If an issue is pushed through and some are worried it's illegal, do it first because the opposition may fail in court, if not, it's done.

That's conservanazis' ideas about "democracy", "free" speech and such.


Democracy was getting old anyway.

[GrantDem]

2. He'll now go on to a lucrative career in a GOP think tank.

[Newest Reality]

3. I'm sure that Führer Imperial Walker

and his regime had already considered that idea a few times and figured nobody would want to take an attempted murder rap for the cause since they are all fearful, weeping little boys inside. Strike that!

[TxVietVet]

85. The badass conservanazis are more scared of Bubba in prison

than Scott Wanker losing face.

[warrior1]

4. fucker should be

removed from office and tarred and feathered.

[Enthusiast]

51. I propose the guillotine for Walker, Scott and Kasich.

Better than feathers.

[notadmblnd]

5. Thse republicans are none too smart.

putting a potential conspiracy in writing and sending through the internet. Does anyone know if Walker's people responded to this?

[Critters2]

7. That was my thought. It's one thing to think of stupid shit,

but when you type it up and send it in an e-mail, well, that's just stupid shit multiplied exponentially.

[defendandprotect]

31. IMO, they're at the bottom of the barrel -- the most violent and the stupidest -- !!

[AlbertCat]

93. the most violent and the stupidest -- !!

and the most FULL of hubris! They think they can do anything.

They shoulda listened more when they studied Classical Greek Mythology.

IF they even studied it. These guys are younger than I am, so they may not have even covered Oedipus or know who Semele is!

[Angry Dragon]

6. I am just amazed how these people that are sucking

at the government tit attack people that are making less than them
and accusing them as destroying this country......
Here is a mirror you idiots........

[socialist_n_TN]

42. Republicans don't WANT good government............

Good government destroys their one main talking point, that government is useless or actively harmful. Ergo, with Republicans you won't GET good government.

Riddle me this Batman. How can people who don't BELIEVE in government be expected to govern? Or at least govern well?

[tcaudilllg]

8. Where is the FBI?

Surely there is something here worth investigating.

[toddwv]

18. Definitely.

Seems like shit like this is just the tip of the Kochroach iceberg. It's time to lock up all communications before they make their way to the shredder.

[defendandprotect]

32. Exactly -- same with the guy who wanted "live ammunition" used on protesters at Capitol!!

[Enthusiast]

52. LOL! nt

[Critters2]

9. I would love to know if Walker e-mailed him back. nt

[mod mom]

53. He should have notified authorities. I wonder if he did.

[KansDem]

10. HA!!! It's signed, "God bless,"

As in "Let's fake an assault and blame it on our detractors, then have God bless us!"

Fuck the Repubs and their hypocrisy!

[AlbertCat]

94. Fuck the Repubs and their hypocrisy!

Fuck religion and its hypocrisy!

[Major Hogwash]

11. To try and garner sympathy while pretending to be a victim!

I've never seen anything like him!
He's a one-man wrecking crew!

[louslobbs]

12. Just how warped are these Republicons? I knew they were liars, cheats, low life hypocrites, but

how far will they actually go to win? Will they kill? Forget that question, I'm sure they would if they think they could get away with it. I'm sure they could set up some mentally ill follower to do almost anything for the "cause". And most of these people are alleged, Christians? Religious? It literally blows my mind the things that these subhuman beings will attempt to subvert Democracy and the will of the majority. Why not have Walkers wife beaten and raped while your at it, that would surely turn people against the Unions. What kind of brains think of these things? Republicons and their operatives, make me sick to my stomach.
Lou

[defendandprotect]

34. We've had more than 50+ years of rw political violence -- and you ask?

[Enthusiast]

54. Not only would they kill, they have killed

to gain political office and influence.

[Hestia]

13. Which means, at the end of the day, this is the only way they could think up to garner support.

They had absolutely nothing in their arsenal that could possibly work.

[imaginary girl]

14. Wonder if they did that here (IN)

This has always felt suspicious to me -- made all the news outlets too ...

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/local/marion_county/woman-i-was-attacked-at-union-rally

[Iliyah]

15. None of

this will be covered by the corporate media, even no mention of any of the peaceful protest going on now or before. Nothing, nada, zip. All I'm hearing from the media is bashing everything Prez O and showcasing potential gopers for Prez, especially dumbass bat shit crazy Michelle B.

[louslobbs]

29. Any security cameras in that area, I'm sure if there were we'd see her banging her own head against

a wall, then calling the police lol. Gotta have that "Union Thug" thing come alive.
Lou

[Plucketeer]

16. Fecal matter

has a better image than these CONservative dolts! No wonder conservatives go on about conspiracy theories all the time. They figure that's the way THEY'D do anything!

[louslobbs]

36. I really don't think there is a strong enough word to describe them, fecal comes close, but it

should be an ugly word or phrase that describes something painful and ugly........like anal warts or some kind of copiously leaking venereal discharge, smelly green and yellow pus with scabs and swelling. That's kind of what comes to mind when I think of Republicons the Koch Klan Korp and their operatives who are trying to destroy America. Sorry for being so graphic, but Republicon are graphic in their lunacy so I might as well be graphic in their description.
Lou

[vanbean]

17. Oh, he's been involved in GOP politics for 18 years and he has learned all about false flags!

I wonder what false flag operations he has been involved in.

[yodermon]

19. Isn't this illlegal? I mean the email itself? n/t

[freshwest]

88. That's what I asked on another thread. No charges, huh? What if this incited real violence?

Oh, silly me. The rightwingers have been calling for killing people for years on the airwaves. It's protected chichanery, er, speech, huh?

[SoapBox]

20. Wow...and will it be covered on ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, NPR, PBS...

...not, I'm sure.

[sulphurdunn]

21. Regarding Republicans in general:

What kind of people are these? That is a rhetorical question. Personally, I think they're probably pod people. What other logical conclusion can be drawn? On clear nights I look at the stars and wonder where they came from. :hide:

[RKP5637]

22. You know, I've done the same, seriously, fantasizing they're an invasion force! They are

soooo strange and screwed up! Spawned from totally different DNA IMO.

:hide:

[No Elephants]

99. GOP-Grand Old Pods. I love it. Thanks.

[pauldp]

24. Sociopathic motherf*cker. So he's speaking from 18 years of experience. Jesus.

I think this heinous false flag shit goes on all the time in the GOP unfortunately, but rarely is it done by an idiot who puts it in an email.

[truthisfreedom]

25. God bless, Carlos F. Lam

Yep. God justifies everything, huh Carlos?

[L. Coyote]

26. Wonder how often they actually do this stuff? "or even use a firearm against you"

Is it so common that the idea naturally comes up at moments like this?

[Judi Lynn]

28. Starting with the Operation Northwoods brain attack from the Joint Chiefs of Staff?

They devised any number of ways they could either shoot down an airplane, or sink a boat, etc. and claim it was the Cubans, and use it as an excuse to launch a war on Cuba after the revolution.

It seems to have enduring value to wingers, doesn't it?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com.nyud.net:8090/_KxT3bZCpsqw/SQIiFt0gCHI/AAAAAAAAC7E/sa8kCmvSE18/s400/102408_nushelied.jpg

[murielm99]

43. Remember the Arkansas Project? Troopergate?

They do this often, you know they do. They just aren't always caught.

[L. Coyote]

47. Somehow, the crimes in the run up to impeach Clinton were overlooked too!

Lest we forget:

Bush vs. Gore, the 'Arkansas Project,' the USA firings, and the Swiftboat Admiral
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1029113

[Enthusiast]

55. They are always overlooked. nt

[Marnie]

30. I haveoften assumed that this was the type of thing

that Republicans discussed in their private meetings and conversations.
Not because I am so brilliant but because that is what they accuse Democrats of, which means that is what they are thinking about ad discussing.

You know one of the things that keeps popping up in the Rebagged Tea hoard is "reeducation camps or internment camps" and that gets pretty scary.
We already have the death panels in Florida and Arizona, so what comic book villain mentality plan will the try to slip by us next?

[Enthusiast]

56. You have it right

with the 'comic book villain mentality'.

The best guide I can suggest when analyzing these Republican secret operations is to imagine the very worst you can because their real actions will be worse than you can possibly imagine. And they are pulling them off right this very moment.

[Omaha Steve]

33. So from now on we use the term "right wing hired union thug" in all posts?

K&R!

[defendandprotect]

35. +1000%

[louslobbs]

37. It would most likely be a hired right wing Koch, Republicon Chamber of Commerce, FOX GOP Thug.

or a brainless bagger in a hood(maybe even a real sell out Union member) paid for and sponsored by: Koch.

[L. Coyote]

40. Make that: "right-wing-hired, faux-union thug" to be clear, OR

fill in the GAP as needed

"right-wing-hired, faux-union GAP"

plumber = Joke the Plumber, not Watergate-type burglar :rofl:

disruptor, demonstrator, teacher, etc.

[marmar]

38. There is no level to which they will not sink.

nt

[Beartracks]

39. "Outrageous demands"!

What a tool. And he is correct when he alleges that he did not *directly* encourage violence, since he merely suggests faking violence.... Never mind that that might lead to, um, misunderstandings and, er, ACTUAL violence. Conservatives luuuv the slimy, semantic spin.

How do these people even sleep at night since they knowingly have to FAKE everything they assert to be TRUE? They see a peaceful protest and they think, "These people suck, and we must make them look violent and dangerous!" Or they think, "These protestors claim we're mean and devious; let's cook up a secret plot to discredit them!" See the disconnect? Surely, somewhere in their brain (for even slugworms have brains), they have to see how anti-reality that is.

Did Ghandi have to put up with this kind of shit, too?

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[Babel_17]

41. Could be a big story

I'm guessing what he proposed is a violation of bunch of statutes, state and federal.

[annabanana]

44. Boy this is one really great

[brentspeak]

45. Two days after he lied about not being the one who sent it

Lam, an Indianapolis resident, at first told the Center he never wrote it.

Reached Tuesday by phone at the number listed on the email, Lam confirmed his email address matched the Hotmail address appearing on the Walker email, but said he had never written to Walker.

“I am flabbergasted and would never advocate for something like this, and would like everyone to be sure that that’s just not me,” he said, after being read the email.

snip

Asked his views on Scott Walker, Lam said, “I think he’s trying to do what he has to do to get his budget balanced. But jeez, that’s taking it a little bit to the extreme,” he said of the email’s suggestion to fake violence. “Jeez!”

Then today:

At 5 a.m. Thursday, expecting the story to come out that day, Lam called his boss, Johnson County, Ind., Prosecutor Brad Cooper, and told him he had been up all night thinking about it.

“He wanted to come clean, I guess, and said he is the one who sent that email,” Cooper said.

He came into the office and gave his resignation verbally, Cooper told the Daily Journal in Franklin, Ind. The resignation was announced after the Center’s initial story was published.

Lam is a liar as a well as criminal.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

46. Another douchebag outs himself.

There is no end to the Rovian BS that these assholes will employ.

[Blue Owl]

48. Hmm where would they get these "MIHOP"-like ideas?

...I wonder...

[L. Coyote]

49. I bet noone can come up with a better dirty trick than this: Swiftboating Al Gore from Argentina

This remains my all-time favorite, epitomizing the art of Republican rat-f'ing, but I'd love to read a better tale if you have one.
There just is no way to make this stuff up!! This is a court pleading. Unbelievable.

First get some spy files from Israel, alter them to look like Argentine spy files, make them implicate Bush and Menem in corruption, blame Gore for the forged documents. Sound familiar. Did I mention blackmailing bribed journalists and, of course, the perennial covert Republican dirty tricksters. This genre of dirty trick came to be known as "swiftboating" when done to Kerry four years later by the same players!!

====================
Swiftboating Al Gore from Argentina, SIDE, Israeli wire transfers, spy files, forgery, Bush & Menem

http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/041901.P.pdf
Olavar (Triumph Communications International Group, Plaintiffs-Appellants, v.
Santibañes, Defendant-Appellee, and Ikon Holdings, Inc., t/a Ikon Public Affairs, Dick Morris, Roger Stone, Eileen McGann, John Does, Defendants.

Appeal from the United States District Court Decided: December 1, 2005

Triumph Communications International Group, Incorporated is a corporation that provides political consulting and public relations services and is owned and operated solely by Mattie Lolavar.

In early 2000, Miss Lolavar began discussions with defendant Dick Morris about the possibility of her working with Craig Snyder and defendant Roger Stone, who are partners in defendant IKON Holdings, Inc., another political consulting firm ... about the possibility of Triumph Communications’ assistance with work that IKON was doing for the government of Argentina.
These discussions lead to two contracts ... and provided that Triumph would act as a public relations consultant to "the Secretary of Intelligence of Argentina" as well as arrange various media events...

Miss Lolavar went to Argentina in August 2000 to assist de Santibañes with preparations for his testimony in Argentine congressional hearings inquiring into allegations that he and the Argentine intelligence agency, known as SIDE, were responsible for bribing various Argentine senators in exchange for political support. Morris and Stone assigned other tasks to Miss Lolavar while she was in Argentina. Among other acts, they instructed her to contact SIDE and obtain a list of journalists who accepted bribes from that organization in order to harm the credibility of those same journalists in reporting on a bribery scandal surrounding de Santibañes and President de la Rua, as well as requiring her to spread false information to the press concerning de la Rua’s political opponent, Dr. Carlos Menem. The charges and counter-charges related here are from the papers in the court file, as are the other facts.

A request that occasioned controversy between Miss Lolavar and the defendants was Morris and Stone’s request that she serve as an intermediary in an anonymous wire transfer of funds to an official in Israel. These funds were to be paid to secure intelligence files from the Israeli government to assist de la Rua’s political domestic disputes with Menem, and to imply a corrupt relationship between Menem and George W. Bush, who was then running against Albert Gore for the United States presidency. These files were to be altered by Miss Lolavar to appear to be SIDE documents.

When the defendants became concerned that this plot would be discovered and traced back to them, they ordered Miss Lolavar to orchestrate a press response to blame Vice President Gore for the dissemination of the documents, since it was known to them that the Gore campaign had been attempting to connect Menem with the Bush campaign.

[Enthusiast]

57. Who can stop them?

The media doesn't report this shit.

[russspeakeasy]

90. Please name one reporter, or media source that gives a shit.

Their ad revenues would dry up overnight if they pissed off
the republicans.

[kpete]

59. Indiana prosecutor resigns over Walker email (encouraging Gov to fake an attack against himself)

Source: Wisconsin Watch

http://www.wisconsinwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Message-From-The-Prosecutor.pdf

Indiana prosecutor resigns over Walker email

Posted on March 24, 2011 by Kate Golden

Carlos Lam, a deputy prosecutor in Johnson County, Ind., resigned after sending an email encouraging Gov. Scott Walker to fake an attack against himself. Photo from a video debate posted at 3 Left Turns Make a Right.
Initially denied encouraging Wisconsin violence

By Kate Golden
Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism

***

An Indiana deputy prosecutor and Republican activist resigned Thursday after the Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism uncovered an email to Gov. Scott Walker in which he suggested a fake attack on the governor to discredit union protesters.

Carlos F. Lam submitted his resignation shortly before the Center published a story quoting his Feb. 19 email, which praised Walker for standing up to unions but went on to say that the chaos in Wisconsin presented “a good opportunity for what’s called a ‘false flag’ operation.”

“If you could employ an associate who pretends to be sympathetic to the unions’ cause to physically attack you (or even use a firearm against you), you could discredit the unions,” the email said.

Read more: http://www.wisconsinwatch.org/2011/03/24/email-to-walker-suggested-faking-attack-on-governor/

[Pharaoh]

60. Woot!!!

Thanks Carlos!

[Arctic Dave]

61. Thanks a lot jackass. Now if he does get his ass kicked, no one will believe him.

I'm not saying anymore. })

[DirkGently]

62. Whoa. Indiana law enforcement batting 1000.

[cstanleytech]

63. I hope there will be an investigation into this guys actions

because what he is proposing is clearly illegal and if he is willing to propose such a thing who knows if he hasnt done something in one of the cases he has been involved in that was illegal as well.

[Octafish]

64. Former prosecutor should turn himself in for prosecution.

"Corruption in public office is treason." - Adlai Stevenson II.

[Grassy Knoll]

65. I say get em all. K&R

[InkAddict]

66. Hope Walker don't give him a "better" job....eom

[golddigger]

67. The asshole should be brought up on charges for inciting

terrorism.

[freshwest]

80. Yup, resigning too good for him. Isn't this illegal !?!

[TxVietVet]

68. Another dumbass conservanazi bites the dust.

See who is pushing the violence issue. Not the unions.

[pacalo]

69. What a worm. He went through the whole cowardly I-didn't-do-it tapdance before

he 'fessed up to it. His account was hacked, they're out to get him, he was shopping with his family for a minivan, yadayadayada.

Same old tired Republican m.o., different thug.

[defendandprotect]

70. kr --

[global1]

71. Now If We Can Get Walker To Resign......nt

[The Backlash Cometh]

72. Good. This needs to get exposure. Republicans and their dirty tricks.

[valerief]

73. SOP for them. nt

[They_Live]

74. Someone's been watching MACHETE (nt)

[slay]

75. Walker needs to be formally investigated period. He is a criminal in a suit.

I'm not surprised people were dumb enough to vote for this asshole, but now that he's shown his true colors it would be in EVERYONE'S best interests to find out what's behind this guys CRAZY executive orders and union busting. Find out who is benefiting from his thuggery. ugh.

[yellowcanine]

76. E-mail gate. So why didn't Walker inform Lam's boss about the email in February?

That was a whole month ago. And did Walker respond to the email? If so, what did he say? Come clean on email-gate, Scotty. Was there a cover-up?
"The cover-up is worse than the crime." How many times have we heard that?

[seafan]

77. Was this guy in cahoots with Indiana Deputy AG who tweeted for violence against WI protesters?

Indiana Deputy AG fired over tweets inciting violence against Wisconsin protesters, February 23, 2011 (Jeff Cox)


Indiana prosecutor resigns over Walker email, March 24, 2011 (Carlos F. Lam)



These people are consumed with hatred.

[TheOther95Percent]

78. Good luck Getting A New Job, Dude.

Ask Alberto Gonzalez how long it took him to find a job after doing Bush's dirty deeds. Not to mention there's still quite a recession in the legal industry.

[Astraea]

79. I'm bringing this out the next time

someone tells me it's crazy to believe in 'right wing conspiracies'. These fuckers will do anything; they have no scruples.

[JohnyCanuck]

81. Say what you want...

but false flag attacks are very effective if you can pull them off successfully. At least the Pentagon Joint Chiefs of Staff apparently thought so when they planned Operation Northwoods. Most ordinary people just can't conceive that their fellow citizens could be depraved enough to carry out such an operation for a political or strategic advantage.

[GaltFreeDiet]

82. EVERY case he was involved in needs to be investigated

Apparently, falsifying/manufacturing evidence isn't beneath him.

[Faygo Kid]

83. Look at the little twerp. Another O'Keefe-type.

Where do they dig up these jagoffs?

Going to report on this one, Faux News? I didn't think so.

[Historic NY]

84. Another values minded conservative repuke....

these guys take the cake.....win at all costs.

[Oceansaway]

87. K&R...n/t

[russspeakeasy]

89. No crime here. Just havin a little fun don't cha know. Wink Wink.

[Critters2]

91. My parents were both Republican when I was a kid. But,

they were the Republicans of Lincoln, TR, Eisenhower. They would take us to the Hoover Library, which was near where we lived, and point out the good work Hoover did in post-WWI relief in Belgium, and his work to bring relief to victims of the 1927 flood. They did tell us that he mishandled the economy and the Depression, didn't sugar coat things. But they were Republican and proud of it.

Then came the Southern Strategy, Nixon's continued mishandling of Vietnam, and Watergate...and my mom registered as Dem before the election which brought us Reagan.

I don't know for sure when my dad made the final switch. I know it was a hard decision for him. He still says, often, that Lincoln would be embarrassed at his party today. But my dad is a dedicated Dem today. In fact, he's working on the recall effort against, Glenn Grothman, his state senator.

It is a amazing how a party founded to fight slavery and preserve the Union has fallen to such depths.

It is also amazing that more people haven't made the decision my parents did.

Amazing and sad.

[yellowcanine]

95. "He (Lam) has his own ‘3G network’ that is quite apart from Apple: guns, gold and gasoline.’ ”

The little twerp sounds like a real piece of work...fancies himself as some kind of wannabe survivalist it appears. Based on his naivete I doubt he would last 24 hours if the shit REALLY hit the fan.

[colorado_ufo]

96. When the Repugs scream about the Ten Commandments

and how they should be everywhere, they might try reading the one that says, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor."

[The Doctor.]

97. Crazy conspiracy theories!

Everyone knows that our government doesn't engage in false flag operations! :eyes: