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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 04:12 PM
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UPDATE: McDonnell says state can now perform familial DNA searches
Source: Richmond Times Dispatch Virginia

Gov. Bob McDonnell announced today that the Virginia Department of Forensic Science now has the ability to perform familial DNA searching, a technique that has been sought by prosecutors and victim family members to help solve some of the state's most difficult cases.

The technique would allow the DNA database to be searched for a person who may be closely related to a suspect who is not in the database but whose DNA has been identified on crime scene evidence

Read more: http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/virginia-politics/20... /



Modern Science is.... scary sometimes.
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DeeJay Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 04:21 PM
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1. Sure, this is how it begins
all with good intent. Pretty soon they're mining the database for other purposes. It always happens.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 04:27 PM
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2. If you live in VA and have six-fingers dna lingering, beware...
It wouldn't be the first time...
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 04:33 PM
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3. I have had my husband claim that he lost his used razor in an airport search.
Didn't even know he had lost it until he opened the luggage and found the note. He searched, and his used razor was the only thing missing. Then a few months later my daughter says that "lost" her toothbrush in transit.

Yeah, my tinfoil cap is firmly in place. Would not surprise me to learn that certain sectors of our government are collecting DNA samples for their own purpose.
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RantinRavin Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:29 PM
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12. They don't take razors from checked luggage
It's perfectly legal to have as long as it's checked. I'm calling bullshit.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 07:55 AM
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14. They took the part that fits into the razor. The part where hair and dead skin cells get stuck in.
Don't really much care what you call it. He packed it at the hotel in his toiletry bag and at the end of the trip, it was gone.

Gee, taking your word or the word of my anal retentive husband. What a tough call.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:42 AM
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13. Wait until the insurance companies get hold of it.
Think of how devastating it's going to be for individuals who learn that something is ticking down in their DNA, the insurance companies know it, and won't tell them what it is.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:39 PM
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17. Oh hell, you could find something ticking in almost everyone's DNA. Of course
that just gives them a good excuse to raise everyone's premiums.

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AllTooEasy Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 04:38 PM
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4. Not sure how to vote on this one, here's why...
A friend's sister was brutally raped in her DC apartment years ago. The cops had DNA but it didn't match anyone in the system. It remains a cold case. Horrible crime with no closure.

On the other hand, I don't want the police knocking on my door because me and a suspect may have had a mutual great-great-great-great-grandmother.
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:28 PM
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6. Bad enough getting BIL's collection calls.
Of course this might be the only way we reform our system where everyone in some neighborhoods is a suspect.

They finally did reform the one informant drug equals drug charges in Texas.

I sure wish we taught critical thinking and kids encouraged each other to succeed in something other than sports.
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Ticonderoga Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 04:39 PM
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5. Next Up
TSA Fingerwaves, because it's in the interest of national security.
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iandhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:23 PM
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7. has this technique
been peer reviewed?
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:22 PM
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11. Yes. /nt
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:28 PM
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8. The prison system, which is by far the largest on the Planet, needs more prisoners.
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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 07:58 AM
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15. So we need to keep violent criminals on the street?
Please, put your talking points away.

Overcrowding of prisons is a big problem. Nonviolent offenders and petty drug offenses are some of the reasons why our prisons are overcrowded. But keeping violent criminals on the street because our prisons are overcrowded may just be the dumbest thing I've heard...
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 11:27 AM
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16. self delete.
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 11:28 AM by sarcasmo
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Sonicwall Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:17 PM
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9. It'll be found unconstitutional
Famlial DNA was on SVU alot - I disagree with it.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:29 PM
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10. Modern science has also freed those who were convicted in error -
- so I guess this is the other side of the DNA coin. This doesn't make anyone automatically guilty, it would narrow the pool of suspects based on DNA. Of course, someone in your family would have to have their DNA in the database for a connection to happen.

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