Muslim model to be flogged in Malaysia for drinking beer

[Coventina]

Source: Press Trust of India

Kuala Lumpur, Jul 21 (PTI) A Muslim model from Singapore has been sentenced to flogging by a Malaysian Islamic court after she confessed to drinking beer at a nightclub here.

Kartika Sari Sewi Shu-karno, 32, a part-time model pleaded guilty of having a beer in a nightclub last year, was ordered by the Shariah High Court yesterday to receive six strokes of the cane and pay USD 1,400 as fine, according to New Straits Times.

"The court reached the judgment after the accused pleaded guilty. We feel the sentence is fair after going through the prosecution's argument and since the cane is provided for in the law", said Judge Datuk Abdul Rahman Yunus.

He added the accused could face a three-year jail term if she failed to pay the fine while the canning would be carried out by federal prison authorities.

Read more: http://ptinews.com/news/185505_Muslim--to-be-flogged-in-Malaysia-for-drinking-beer

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Ain't theocracy grand?

This is why eternal vigilance is needed......

[Taverner]

1. And some folks here think we should respect Sharia as a cultural choice

Fuck that!

[AllTooEasy]

6. It is a cultural choice here.

If you follow it, fine. If you don't, THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO FLOG YOU!!!

Unlike Malaysia, religious courts do not overrule federal/secular courts in the US. I lived in Malaysia for 2 yrs...thankfully as a Christian, by where I was allowed to drink constantly.

:woohoo:

[riderinthestorm]

26. Uh, newsflash, in the western Muslim enclaves that embrace Sharia

you will get flogged.

Just as women will be forced to wear the shrouds by their husbands, and girls will be forced into marriage as young teens, and every other hideous thing associated with this religion will continue to go on and on regardless of location.

Because it IS their culture. And they want to bring it to the west and "make" us "respect" it, and "permit" it.

The culture excuse is simply a way to look away without examing the hard truth about the situation and the people caught in the trap. The only way to help them get out of that trap is to keep pointing out the misogyny, the ugliness, the wrongness of it. Imho, never "excuse" hideous shit as "their culture" when it's so blatently, despicably wrong.

[muriel_volestrangler]

41. Which are the areas in the west that permit flogging? (nt)

[ohio2007]

18. Yet they permit "night clubs" that serve beer...... hmmmm Mullahs get thirsty

and don't take NO for an answer when out painting the town red

[MADem]

34. When I lived in Iran, all my neighbors enjoyed the ab-e-jo (beer--a Persian invention, you know) and

a few of them were hard core for the Johnny Walker, too.

It wasn't just the "furriners" or the "half breeds" sidling into the Armenian booze shop. And those Armenians were clever, they also sold cases of bottles of soda, so the "good Muslims" could make the pretext that they were buying coca-cola for the kiddies. And of course, everything was discreetly delivered to your car trunk, wrapped in paper or hidden in a box.

[K8-EEE]

38. that is interesting!

I know that the Christians had a good deal going with being liquor merchants in Iraq until Generalissimo Booosh liberated them from all that.

[muriel_volestrangler]

40. It's a mixed country

Muslim 60.4%, Buddhist 19.2%, Christian 9.1%, Hindu 6.3%, Confucianism, Taoism, other traditional Chinese religions 2.6%, other or unknown 1.5%, none 0.8% (2000 census)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/MY.html

The non-drinking laws don't apply to non-Muslims (I know their ID cards give a religion, and they refuse to let people change their official religion. But I didn't know there were criminal penalties for Muslims drinking there, especially as harsh as this.

Seems Malaysia uses it for illegal immigrants too:

Rights watchdog Amnesty has urged Malaysia to abolish caning, saying that tens of thousands of migrants had received the "inhuman and degrading" punishment in recent years.

Amnesty cited a statement in Malaysian parliament last week that said local authorities had caned at least 34,923 migrants between 2002 and 2008, 60 percent of them from neighbouring Indonesia.
...
The caning sentence was added to Malaysian immigration laws since 2002, amid concern over the ramifications of having a large migrant workforce.

Under the laws, those staying in Malaysia illegally are subject to a mandatory whipping of up to six strokes of the cane, fines and up to five years in jail.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iqSjndYunsbX7P6aVGCSiKBrvxFg

[bbinacan]

2. Ah,

the religion of peace.:hide:

[Flaneur]

49. Whereas here in good Christian America...

We don't flog people for using the wrong substances, we just imprison them for years.

Let's not get all superior now before we look in the mirror.

[Deep13]

3. Do you think the prospect of flogging a young model...

...is an exciting prospect to the repressed holy men on the bench over there?

[Psephos]

27. especially if the get to record it on video

so they can play it in private later while they fondle their ritually-shaved parts


:puke:

[skoalyman]

28. they should go flog themselves

:spank:

[prayin4rain]

54. The whole thing is obviously disgusting... but it is weird no flogging for being a model

but one for drinking a beer? Seems weird to me. Obviously being flogged for either one is disgusting... but still seems incongruent.

[timeforpeace]

4. She's lucky they weren't Southern Baptists.

[RC]

5. They'd drown her in the baptismal tank?

[chaplainM]

7. They oppose drinking in nightclubs, because it might lead to

(All together now)...DANCING!!!

[timeforpeace]

9. Carter was sayin he's quitting Southern Baptist church cuz of how they treat women.

[razorman]

14. He might have thought of that sixty years ago.

[Synicus Maximus]

23. but even hard rock baptist flog women

they may ostracize them or say bad things about them but no baptist I have ever heard of would suggest flogging someone and I am Southern Baptist

[tkmorris]

29. Ever hear of Ezzo parenting?

I guess that's different though, since the flogging is only done to infants.

[MADem]

35. I thought that's why they didn't do the nasty standing up.... nt

[ohio2007]

16. Now thats Southern Comfort for ya

[leftynyc]

47. Really? Why?

I have missed the story about Baptists beating the crap out of people for drinking. A link would do just fine.

[Korsa]

55. Yeah. o.O;; I come from a Baptist family

and practically my whole family drank like fish. :p There were a few exceptions, but I don't remember anybody in my family being unable to drink because they were Baptist, or because they were a female Baptist. Unless they were a pregnant female Baptist. :p

[QC]

50. Silly even by the standards of DU religion discussions. n/t

[UpInArms]

8. pic of model

Noorazah (pictured) and Mohamad Nasir, were both sentenced to six strokes of the cane and ordered to pay a fine of RM5,000. This is believed to be the first case in Malaysia of a woman receiving a caning sentence for drinking. -- PHOTO: NEW STRAITS TIMES PRESS

[timeforpeace]

11. Whoa. Cold shower.

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[Hassin Bin Sober]

19. Evening Vear!

[Coventina]

20. Beach Vear!

:thumbsup:

[louis-t]

10. They're going to can her, too?

I assume they meant 'caning'. :evilgrin:

[DCBob]

12. Wow, if she deserves six strokes, then, considering my alcohol consumption level..

they will wear out several thousand canes on me. Ouch.

[razorman]

13. That'd better be some damn good beer.

[ohio2007]

15. Singapore Slings would have been the beverage of choice in that town don't ya think ?

taste great , less fatwas

[razorman]

24. Well, I've had an ass-whuppin' or two after a few beers, myself.

[customerserviceguy]

22. I haven't yet had an Asian beer

that was worth getting flipped off over.

[timeforpeace]

30. Try Sapporo.

[Psephos]

33. I'll second that, enthusiastically n/t

[customerserviceguy]

44. I have, too dry for me

Now there's some really great stuff coming out of Belgium, and India Pale Ales from the Pacific Northwest might be worth a few lashes, too!

[D23MIURG23]

21. Disgusting.

[tomreedtoon]

25. It will go on until women start flogging Mullahs.

Have a few of those hypocrites lying dead in the alley, with whip marks on their backs and a burkah stuffed over their heads, and they may get the message.

I wonder how much abuse of women it will take for that to happen.

[JonQ]

31. Quite a lot apparently

given the history of this and many other countries.

[shireen]

32. disgusting

the corruption and double-standards among many in the Malay Muslim ruling class is nauseating. Behind closed doors, you better believe they have well-stocked liquor cabinets yet they allow these fanatics to carry out inhumane punishments. Most Malaysians i know are reasonable people, i hope this is a wake-up call to kick these fools out of power before Malaysia sinks into the Dark Ages.

[Fumesucker]

36. This is both disgusting and ridiculous..

But our own culture is hardly better when examined dispassionately and objectively, we steal decades of people's lives from them for possessing recreational drugs of which our society does not approve, some of which are objectively considerably less harmful than ethyl alcohol.

It is so difficult to get beyond our social conditioning to see things in a truly objective light, which would you rather suffer, six years hard time in the pen or six strokes with a cane?

And let's face it, most of our disapproval of certain recreational substances flows from the essentially Christian nature of our society.

I fully expect to get flamed for this post and I frankly don't give a damn.

[clixtox]

39. I agree a 110%, we are just as ridiculous as these disgusting hypocrites...

in Malaysia are with the severe punishments we mete out for victimless crimes like marijuana, or any "recreational" drug, possession, prostitution or gambling.

[snooper2]

46. Oh bullshit, you know would happen to her if she was caught with a joint?

here you would get probabtion...

She would be locked up for 30 years and 1000 lashes

[Flaneur]

51. US prisons are full of people doing time for drug possession.

Several hundred thousand of them.

That said, Malaysia is very harsh on substances. They are one of a handful of countries that execute people for some drug offenses.

[Fumesucker]

52. There are other drugs than pot that carry far harsher penalties in the US

And you and I both know it.

So their worse stupidity excuses our own somewhat less stupid behavior?

[EndersDame]

37. FUCK THAT!!

[LeftishBrit]

42. This is horrible and also bizarre

I had thought that Malaysia was NOT a theocracy, and in any case is only about 60% Muslim. Has it changed recently, or does it have Sharia law in some parts but not others?

[DeadEyeDyck]

43. It's coming (and is) here

through sin taxes, blue laws, etc

[B3Nut]

45. Good thing I'm not a Muslim in Malaysia...

...they'd beat me with a friggin' telephone pole for drinking Wild Turkey. ;)

Stupid backward fun-duh-mentalists...useless people.

[Flaneur]

48. Whereas here in the "civilized" United States...

...we're oh so much better. We don't flog people who use the wrong substances, we just imprison them for years.

I hope all the people outraged by this sentence are equally outraged by how we treat our drug users.

[BOG PERSON]

53. Good point

It's true, we're too enlightened for floggings. So we send our undesirables to prison instead, where they can get raped, beaten and otherwise rehabilitated.