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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 05:24 PM
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US turns up pressure on Honduras coup government
Source: AP - Google Hosted News

US turns up pressure on Honduras coup government

By MARK STEVENSON (AP) – 2 hours ago


TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras — The United States is turning up pressure on the Honduran government installed by a coup — and the businessmen who support it — warning that they will face severe sanctions if ousted President Manuel Zelaya is not restored to power.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called interim President Roberto Micheletti to say there would be serious consequences if his government ignores international mediation for Zelaya's return.

Her call on Sunday came as talks mediated by Costa Rican President Oscar Arias stalled due to the refusal of Micheletti's delegates to accept demands for Zelaya's return.

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said that Clinton helped "helped him understand the potential consequences of a failure to take advantage of this mediation."

Honduran business leaders, meanwhile, say U.S. Ambassador Hugo Llorens has called them into meetings to warn that Honduras — impoverished and highly dependent on exports to the United States — could face tough sanctions if the interim government continues to refuse Arias' compromise proposal for Zelaya to return as head of a coalition government.

The European Union added to the pressure on Monday by announcing it was suspending $93.1 million (65.5 million euros) in aid to Honduras.

No government has recognized Micheletti, and the United Nations and Organization of American States have called for the return of Zelaya, who was arrested and hustled out of the country by the army on June 28.


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IDFbunny Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 05:30 PM
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1. Isolate Honduras, worked for Cuba.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 06:44 PM
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7. Cuban people generally support their government. Honduran people generally support their elected
president.

Besides, only the US tries to isolate Cuba, the rest of the world trades with Cuba.
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:16 AM
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10. The US's sanction are extraterritorial. Prohibits companies from trading w/Cuba, not countries.
the rest of the world trades with Cuba.


A common myth.

The US's Helms-Burton law and a myriad of other US sanctions are on companies that do business in/with Cuba. If they do so (without US waivers) then they are banned from doing biz in the USA. Same goes for shipping. IF Bayer AG were to sell Aspirin to Cuba, then Bayer would be barred from selling Aspirin in the USA.

Got it?


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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:55 AM
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11. Is that why Mexicana airlines flies to Cuba? And Flight from Canada? and all over the world? It may
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 01:56 AM by John Q. Citizen
be a law, but we can't enforce it. Spain is developing oil fields off of Cuba.

We import oil from Venezuela ( Citgo) and they sell oil to Cuba

http://www.skyscanner.net/flights/cu/mex/cheapest-flights-to-mexico-city-juarez-international-from-cuba.html
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 02:04 AM
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12. You may remember a time during Bush #43 when the Helms-Burton got some BAD publicity for us:
U.S. Treasury Evicts Cubans from Sheraton Hotel in Mexico City
International Relations Center | April 18, 2006

Americas Program, Center for International Policy (CIP) americas.irc-online.org

The U.S. Treasury Department ordered the Sheraton Hotel chain to expel 16 Cuban nationals staying at the Sheraton María Isabel in Mexico City on February 4th. The Cubans were participating in the U.S.-Cuba Energy Summit, a conference organized by the U.S.-Cuba Trade Association.

The Treasury Department did not issue a public statement explaining the unusual action, but it falls under enforcement of the Helms-Burton Act of 1996. The act prohibits U.S. companies from doing business with Cuban-owned interests in any part of the world and has reaped criticism from other countries as a violation of national sovereignty.

The Treasury Department knew about the event and its Cuban participants well before the eviction since the U.S.-Cuba Trade Association routinely advises the Treasury Department of its meetings. However, neither planners nor the Cuban participants were warned of the possible eviction until they were told to leave the hotel. Their room deposits were turned over to the Treasury Department.

The Sheraton Hotel management stated that it was merely following orders from the U.S. Treasury. The measure placed the company in a no-win situation, forcing it to violate at least one law—the U.S. prohibition on trade with Cuba abroad or Mexico's anti-discrimination laws.

The eviction caused a major uproar in the Mexican press. Both local and federal authorities began investigations of the action and of the Sheraton María Isabel, located near the U.S. Embassy in central Mexico City. Although the orders were received from Sheraton U.S. headquarters, the Mexico City Sheraton is a business constituted in Mexico and subject to its laws. Mexico has refused to recognize the jurisdiction of the Helms-Burton Act in its territory. The Mexican government briefly closed the hotel for various infractions but later allowed it to reopen after levying a stiff fine for violation of the anti-discrimination law.

The U.S. Secretary of State issued a statement saying the action was not meant to “irritate our friends in Mexico,” but the eviction was considered a direct provocation to a nation with close historical ties to Cuba. It not surprisingly stirred up public indignation and calls for retaliation measures.

The U.S. Helms-Burton Act has been challenged by many countries for illegally seeking to impose the extraterritorial enforcement of U.S. law. It has rarely been enforced as aggressively as in the Mexico Sheraton case.

Although U.S. law prohibits U.S. businesses from doing business with Cuba, the exceptions to the law reveal the hypocrisy of the embargo and uneven implementation. Agricultural lobbying led to creation of a loophole —the 2000 Trade Sanctions and Reform Export Enhancement Act—that allows U.S. companies to sell agricultural commodities to Cuba on a cash-only basis. Legal agricultural sales to Cuba totaled $400 million in 2005.

The 36-year-old embargo against Cuba violates international trade law, presents marked inconsistencies, and has failed to achieve the U.S. government's professed goal. It has also aggravated relations with other countries and placed the United States on the wrong side of international law. Votes in the United Nations have repeatedly condemned the U.S. embargo on Cuba.

More:
http://americas.irc-online.org/am/3220

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BBC News:

Last Updated: Wednesday, 8 February 2006, 04:08 GMT
Mexico-US row over Cuban eviction

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk.nyud.net:8090/media/images/41306000/jpg/_41306836_hotel_ap300bo.jpg

The hotel now faces a big fine,
Mexican officials say.

The authorities in Mexico say a US-owned hotel in Mexico City may have broken the law by expelling a group of Cuban officials.
The delegation was ordered out of the Hotel Maria Isabel Sheraton last week at the behest of Washington, because of the US embargo against Cuba.

Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez said the US law could not be applied in a third country.

Some 30 people held an anti-US rally outside the hotel.

The Cuban government said the incident showed US policy had been affecting other countries.

'Applying the law'

The Cuban officials were due to meet a group of US businessmen opposed to the embargo at the hotel on Saturday.

Starwood Hotels and Resorts Worldwide Inc., which owns the Sheraton chain, said the company was asked by the US Treasury Department to tell the Cubans to leave the hotel.

The meeting was then moved to a Mexican-owned hotel.

Speaking to the BBC on Tuesday, Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez said the US embargo (the Helms-Burton law) could not be applied outside the US. Mr Derbez - who a day earlier announced an investigation into the incident - also said the hotel may have broken local laws which ban discrimination. He said the Sheraton chain could be fined up to $500,000.

The office of Mexican President Vicente Fox said on Tuesday that the authorities were looking into the eviction, pledging to "vigorously apply the law" if any wrongdoing was found.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the Sheraton in Mexico City was a subsidiary of a US-owned hotel group and therefore subject to US laws and regulations.

More:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4691782.stm
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 12:27 AM
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9. wheb was Cuba isolated? n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 05:33 PM
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2. Didn't know until today their poverty level is 70%. If ever a country needed to change its ways,
it's Honduras.

Hope they get their elected President with the social conscience back.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 05:41 PM
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3. But that poverty level has occurred during his tenure. Zelaya's tenure as president.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 05:44 PM
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4. Nonsense! Zelaya raised the minimum wage and teachers' salaries
The Honduran elites have enjoyed a good life at the expense of the vast majority of Hondurans.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:30 AM
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13. Zelaya couldn't turn around decades and centuries of exploitation in one term
against the relentless resistance of the "10 families" (corrupt, rich, entrenched, oligarchic power). But in the three and a half years of his one permitted term--and against their screams and hatred--he raised the minimum wage, instituted school lunches, lowered transportation costs for poor workers, improved health care and pensions for the poor, and began allying with the unions who are trying to represent Chiquita International's and others' "free trade" slave labor force. He also initiated a movement for fundamental reform--the Constitutional referendum--an advisory referendum putting the following question to a vote of the people: Do you or don't you want to form a Constituent Assembly to discuss, re-write and vote on a new Constitution?

The current Constitution was written by the Oligarchy during Reagan's "reign of terror" to favor entrenched fascist powers. Zelaya's proposed referendum was their stated reason for shooting up his home, dragging him from his bed at gunpoint, and flying him in a plane with blackened windows to a foreign country, declaring martial law and suspending all Constitutional civil rights, arresting more than 1,000 political prisoners, shutting down the media and open firing on a peaceful crowd of Zelaya supporters at the airport the other week. They are truly terrified at the prospect of serious reform in Honduras. They consider policies like raising the minimum wage and school lunches to be "communism." (--their word, not mine).

Honduras' 70% poverty rate was not created overnight, and it was not created by Zelaya. He tried to do something about it--and you see what the reaction of the Oligarchy was. They are like Venezuela's rich elite--spoiled, selfish, useless people who think they are "born to rule" and who shift their riches to offshore banks to avoid taxes. They don't want to share. They take no responsibility for their country and its people--as to education, health care, infrastructure development, housing, land reform or anything else that could make a good country, where people have a decent life and hope for the future. Anyway, they have had their day. The overwhelming trend in Latin America is toward leftist democracy, throwing these rich, lazy, US-bought-and-paid-for elites out of power, and building sovereign countries in which everyone has a say.

Honduras has no sovereignty now. They are run by the Pentagon, and are considered a "lily pad" country for war in the Caribbean. Honduras doesn't have oil, but it does have strategic location--which is why John Negroponte & pals used it to launch death squads into Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala in the 1980s, and are no doubt trying to secure it now for their plans to regain global corporate predator control of Venezuela's oil.

The Honduran military is basically supported by our tax dollars. And the Oligarchy is supported by $40+ million in US taxpayer dollars funneled through John McCain's "International Republican Institute" and other USAID projects. They are parasites, and tools of our own rightwing. And they hate Zelaya because he showed some independence. He was himself a member of the Oligarchy, and decided to try to bring Honduras into the 21st century--first of all with anti-poverty measures; also with alliances, not just with Venezuela (with whom he negotiated cheap oil for Honduras), but with his immediate neighbors--Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala, all now with leftist democracy governments. The same countries where the Reaganites tried to slaughter a generation of leftist leaders, using Honduras as home base for the death squads.

No government of Honduras can solve poverty on its own. Poverty is a regional problem--which leaders like those in Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala are trying to solve by creating regional trade groups, like ALBA and UNASUR. And the US under the Bush Junta has done everything in its power to make poverty worse--to crush leftists movements, unions and the poor, steal their countries' resources, and enslave them in sweatshops--and, as in Colombia and Honduras, lavishly fund the military to oppress and nazify the country, while also funding its rightwing political groups. And, quite frankly, Clinton policy on this matter is little better--and it remains to be seen whether Hillary is better than Bill. (One bad sign: John Negroponte is advising her!)

As a client state of the US, Honduran poverty is basically our creation. We favor fascist governments. We favor Chiquita, and Monsanto, and Dyncorp. We--that is, our government--favor exploiters who are intent on destroying the "sovereignty of the people" everywhere, including here. The rightwing in Honduras has $40+ million of our tax dollars to control Honduran political life, and lobby our Congress, while the Zelaya supporters in Honduras have barely enough money to live, let alone to mount political campaigns or fly to Washington. That is the situation. And Zelaya is trying to change it--internally and with alliances.

But, as we know, our corporations don't want a level playing field. They don't want to have to bargain with ALBA or UNASUR--who represent the combined muscle of many third world countries. And the Pentagon and our war profiteers know that, when democracy succeeds, their military bases--an affront to the sovereignty of the people in these countries--get thrown out, as just occurred in Ecuador. They don't want democracy to succeed in Honduras. That is likely why they permitted the Honduran military to block Zelaya's plane from landing when he tried to return. The USAF could have escorted his plane. They did not.

Zelaya proposed that the US base in Honduras be converted to a commercial airport. The Pentagon is now building five US military bases in Colombia, because that is virtually the only country that will have them. They are only welcome in extremely corrupt, fascist-controlled countries. Why? Where US bases go, there go poverty, exploitation and suppression of democracy. Things have flipped over since WW II, when the US was the "beacon of democracy." The opposite is true now. Sad to say. Obama seemed to offer hope that the US government would create a respectful, cooperative policy in Latin America, independent of our war profiteers and multinational corporate monsters. That hope is hanging by a thread, at the moment, with the elected president of Honduras, a US-controlled country, in exile, having been violently tossed out of power--for mildly advocating for the poor, making alliances in Honduras' interest, and seeking to establish Honduran sovereignty.

Whose side are we on--the side of the Oligarchies and the fascists, or the side of the vast poor majority who merely want equality and the chance at a decent life? Do we support democracy, or is that just bullshit (as many suspect--with good reason)? That's what Obama must decide, if he has the power to do so. But, whatever he decides--whether the US government decides to be honorable or not (if he has the power to put us on an honorable course--I am not sure that he does)--Latin America IS going leftist, democratic and independent, whether we like it or not. Our corpo/fascists can cause them a lot of pain, suffering, horror and chaos--from their five bases in Colombia. They cannot stop this democracy movement. It is a movement whose time has come.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 05:46 PM
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5. That was why it was good
when the minimum wage was almost doubled at the beginning of this year.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 05:49 PM
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6. So what's the delay in applying action ?
Edited on Mon Jul-20-09 05:52 PM by dipsydoodle
Fightened of losing a cheap labour source ? The EU has already taken action - see elsewhere on DU. BBC link to that is here too : EU suspends $90m aid to Honduras / http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8159986.stm
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 12:26 AM
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8. elections are scheduled for November n/t
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