Obama to tea-baggers: I've already cut taxes

[onehandle]

Source: Marketwatch

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Obliquely answering the hundreds of "tea bag" protests around the country on tax day, President Barack Obama said Wednesday that he's already delivered the most progressive tax cut in history, with 95% of families getting a tax break in every paycheck.

Americans need a "government that is working to create jobs and opportunity for them, rather than simply giving more and more to those at the very top in the false hope that wealth will trickle down," Obama said.

In his remarks, Obama decried the use of taxes as a political wedge issue "to scare people into supporting policies that increased the burden on working people instead of helping them live their dreams."

"We start from the simple premise that we should reduce the tax burden on working people, while helping Americans go to college, own a home, raise a family, start a business and save for retirement," Obama said.

Read more: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Obama-tea-baggers-Ive-already/story.aspx

[Enrique]

1. tea baggers to Obama: never mind

[callous taoboy]

2. "Yeah, but why should one dime of my money go to some poor, black

kid needing a CT scan on the east side of Dallas?" This is what my tea-bagging brother had to say about taxes etc. one day a few years ago.

[pattmarty]

18. You're right, except when his trailer living brother has to take his...........

..........kid to the emergency room because his brother doesn't have insurance. AND, when his trailer living brother gets the hospital bill can't/won't pay it anyway. WHAT A COUNTRY!!!!!!

[pocoloco]

47. "trailer living brother"

What the fuck is that supposed to mean???

[pattmarty]

64. Are you "slow"? Don't get high or drink when you read posts.

[pocoloco]

95. You're a real liberal piece of work.

A guy busting his ass working and having to live in his car is a hero.

When he scrapes enough together to rent or buy a mobile home he turns into fucking trash??

You may be the one who might be a bit "slow"?

[pattmarty]

102. It's called satire, if ya didn't know. AND, you don't know me, so...............

.........don't judge what I've done and haven't done, or how far I got in school, or how well the fuck off I am financially.

[customerserviceguy]

74. It means that

while you are not supposed to care about what color of skin a person is living his life in, you are perfectly fine with being a bigot over another person's housing arrangement.

Former trailer park resident, here.

[TheEuclideanOne]

82. ru-roh, somebody hit a sore spot

He wasn't referring to you....ummm...eerrrr..... he was referring to all of the "other" people living in trailers. Yeah, that's the ticket! The "OTHER" people, so don't get your panties in a bunch. I can send you a whole other list of synonyms for "trailer living brother". For now, I will define it for ya:

Trailer trash, trailer living brother or trailer park trash is a derogatory North American English term for white people of low socio-economic standing. The term originates from the belief that those of low standing within society often reside in travel trailers or mobile homes, especially in trailer parks. Because trailers often provide housing at a lower cost than conventional foundation-built houses, and some trailers have few amenities, there is a popular cultural conception that those who live in trailer parks are usually only those who are too poverty to afford anything else. Although trailer parks have a high density compared to other rural or suburban housing, they are usually created on large tracts of undeveloped land in rural or suburban areas. There is a related stereotype of trailer trash being killed by tornados, often cited humorously

[DollyM]

99. we live in a double wide . . .

AKA, "manufactured home" and it does have a foundation. But it's paper thin walls and cheap construction reminds me daily that it is a trailer no matter how much fixing up we try to do. For us it was a matter of necessity, our land lord was selling the rental we were in and my my grandmother had just died and left us some land. We needed reasonably priced housing quickly so the double wide seemed the best solution. The upside is that it insures as a house since it is on a foundation but it is taxed as a trailer since it has a VIN number just like a car.

[TheEuclideanOne]

103. That does sound pretty cool.

I love the fact that your trailer has a VIN. I am not sure why, but I think it is funny. Truth is, I don't own a home either, I just rent a house. I never really saw the need to buy a house. As long as you have a place to live that you like, that is the important thing. It sounds like your double wide offered you a decent solution for a difficult situation.

[macebowman]

129. You never know

I work in the financial industry. Years ago I worked in a large firm. It was February and when I came in to the division office there the name was on top of the board. Already made forty grand and it ain't even Valentines Day. "How does he do it", I asked a friend. "Didn't you know, it is that same old woman."

This guy went on appointment. He was passing huge homes and getting all pumped up. Then the road got bad, before long he arrived in front of a rundown single wide. His high hopes suddenly evaporated. Inside is an older woman. He gains her trust and she walks into the backroom and comes out with a cardboard box. It is filled with bonds, old bonds--yellow with age. Twenty one million dollars in all.

[Butch350]

Brother like next of "Kin" not A Brother Brother! Chill baby.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

112. I can't help but wonder if you noticed the poster you replied to was the person's brother?

Kind of makes the remark all the more rude.

[AlbertCat]

33. Because you're HUMAN...maybe?

[Lorien]

130. I like how all the teabaggers think that they are among the wealthiest 1%

"Well golly gee-I make 35k a year an ah don't want no POOR person who ain't workin' hard to get a tax cut"! Like Joe the make believe plumber, they all have inflated views of their own salaries and delusions that they'll be millionaires at any moment. So they screw themselves over to maintain the status qup for their masters. Brilliant plan teabaggers!

[NJmaverick]

3. Well played Mr. President... well played!

[what0now0toons]

4. Obama cut our taxes already

Exactly, we have a tax break, it's the pigs at the top who are wining about their tax cut from Bush being changed from 32% to 39%. My latest cartoon is about these MadHatters who are getting the poor to protest on their behalf.
it's on my website now www.whatnowtoons.com

[bdamomma]

7. welcome to DU whatOnowOtoons!!!

it is certainly about the pigs at the top who are whining and using the sheep to do their bidding, their Party is toast, and they are backed in a corner, they are also up against a popular President they just can't handle it.

[what0now0toons]

84. the pigs are sure squealing loudly today

Yeah the pigs are sure squealing loudly today, as 95% of America got a tax cut, but you wouldn't believe it if you listened to Fox, Right Wing hate radio and their blogs. One of them posted my cartoon as a complaint about what we liberals are saying about the tea party scam. The replies were strange and in the end I think it backfired because these people are so uninformed and when confronted with facts they backed off.
interesting day indeed.
www.whatnowtoons.com
left of center political cartoons

[Tempest]

12. It should come as no surprise corporate lobbyists are the ones who created the idea

And the mindless rightwingers blindly followed them.

[flyarm]

16. AHH DID YOU GET YOUR $13 OR $17 DOLLAR TAX BREAK??

I HOPE YOU DID , WHILE WALL STREET IS FUCKING YOU RIGHT UP THE ..AHH YOU KNOW.....
don't spend it all in one place..and make sure to buy that Chinese rotisserie chicken ..while it elevates you out of poverty!!
Hope your family is not one of the almost 2 million out of work since January..and you can buy some extra milk with that big tax break!!

I know my 401k has lost a hell of alot more than I got in that big enormous tax break..of what $130 bucks in 10 months?????

woo hoo..

[high density]

22. I got my $500 a year (~$20 per pay period)

I used it to up my 401k contribution by 1%.

If you don't want it, I'll offer my bank account details for you.

[SammyWinstonJack]

25. .

:evilgrin: :thumbsup:

[GinaMaria]

26. Actually, that is exactly the kind of tax break

that will stimulate an economy. It seems counter intuitive but it works because it gets spent almost immediately, at the grocery store, drug store, etc. Larger sums tend to get socked away in savings or investments. The best return on Stimulus dollars are actually food stamps. It helps get things moving and then starts to get jobs back. Extended unemployment benefits and fed money to state governments also stimulate the economy and create jobs. It's less about individual relief and more about reviving the economy.

I understand your sentiments especially toward Wall street/banks. There is no excuse for the billions dumped into Banks. I haven't been able to look at my 401K. I just can't bring myself to open the envelopes when they arrive. It's a disaster.

[flyarm]

36. have you seen the price of laundry detergent lately??????

i just saw the price of a medium bottle yesterday..over $9. bucks a bottle..so that $13. bucks a week isn't going far..but i can assure you..my former neighbor who had a 350,000 dollar pool isn't too upset you are thrilled over your pitance..while his ass was bailed out as a top exec at UBS..no sirree..he is now the proud owner of over a $4 million dollar home on a river..and his new pool is even more expensive..he is damn thrilled your tax bucks paid off his failures!!!!!!!!!

And don't bother looking at your 401K..your little tax thrill won't come close to paying off what you have lost..

Oh and when my former neighbor is sitting in his multi million $$$ beach house ( his second house) and sitting dockside on his Yacht..he won't be thinking about your tax thrill..he is laughing all the way to the bank ..on your money!
Oh and your kids money and your grand kids money ..even those unborn yet!!

And PS ..don't wait for the invitation to a weekend barby at his mansion..the invitiation is not in the mail!!

but many in this country are getting other things in the mail..like pink slips and forclosures..

U.S. FORECLOSURE INDEX: Foreclosures Soar in March, Up 44 Percent Over February’s High
Source: Business Wire

Lenders End Moratoria, Opening Flood of Foreclosures; Re-Defaults and Job Losses Also Take Their Toll

SACRAMENTO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Completed foreclosures hit another monthly record in March as 175,199 homes were lost to foreclosure, up 44 percent from February’s record high, according to the latest U.S. Foreclosure Index released today by ForeclosureS.com, a leading real estate information provider.

The number of foreclosed properties was up dramatically from 121,756 in February. Nearly 370,000 properties have been repossessed by lenders so far this year – 18.3 of every 1,000 households – up more than 38 percent from 266,986 in the fourth quarter of 2008, the U.S. Foreclosure Index shows, and up 76 percent from 210,280 in the first quarter of 2008.

The first-quarter 2009 total is the highest quarterly total of completed foreclosures since the foreclosure crisis began. Pre-foreclosure filings – filings that could lead up to a completed foreclosure – also reached their highest quarterly level, topping 600,000 for the first time since the foreclosure crisis began.

While February and March headlines boasted of government efforts to stop foreclosures, in fact March was the first month when major government-backed lenders – including Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – lifted moratoria on many properties in the first week of March. Only properties eligible for modification under the Obama administration’s plan were covered by continuing foreclosure moratoria, according to statements by the two agencies.

Read more: http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmView...



pss..do spend that $13-17 bucks a week wisely...but I assure you it will not do a fucking thing to help the people losing their homes and jobs nationwide..and it won't do a fucking thing to open all the stores and businesses closing daily in my neck of the woods..when i see those closures..i cry for all the people who used to work there..and now won't get that fucking $13 bucks a week!

Oh and about that 2 million people Obama said his tax cuts will help..well since January over 2 million lost their jobs..so it won't help them a fucking bit!

[Qutzupalotl]

53. Dude...

Oh and about that 2 million people Obama said his tax cuts will help..well since January over 2 million lost their jobs..so it won't help them a fucking bit!

Two different things. The unemployed will be helped by the jobs created by the stimulus, the employed will be helped by the payroll tax cut. It's irrational to expect that every part of his plan will help every person. You have to look at the whole picture.


Oh and when my former neighbor is sitting in his multi million $$$ beach house ( his second house) and sitting dockside on his Yacht..he won't be thinking about your tax thrill..he is laughing all the way to the bank ..on your money!
And PS ..don't wait for the invitation to a weekend barby at his mansion..the invitiation is not in the mail!!

Why should it matter to me what he does? It sounds like you're trying to whip up resentment.

Just a suggestion: if you don't want your "fucking $13 bucks a week", why not give it to your local food bank? I can assure you that will help the people you're talking about.

[Butch350]

100. Well...go kick your former neighbors ass. KM.

[sallyseven]

54. And that is all Obama's fault?

In 70 days he has bankrupt the country, made your taxes go up, Took your first born, There are people who will spend the 13 17 dollars wisely and be glad to have it. John McCain wouldn't have given you 2 cents and chopped the tax rate for the 250,000 people a lot more than they have now. Corp would not have to pay and they can ship your jobs overseas. Stop the damn whining now.

[riverdeep]

123. Yeah, I don't really get how Obama is involved in some of those things either.

Your 401k is down and Obama is to blame? How about the people who've been in charge for the last eight years? How about the Wall Streeters who played scam after scam on the people? No one wants to see those people in mansions while others have to live in cars, but he INHERITED this. No President since FDR has had to deal with so many difficult issues all at once, and if McCain had won, we'd probably be in WWIII right now.

[SlingBlade]

61. Well Then Vote for Jeb Bush next time around

You sound more like a 'Tea Bagger' than some of them do

[defendandprotect]

87. ...because when we have problems we always seek to make them worse . . .??

get a new tape, please -- !!!

The answer isn't more of a downward spiral -- the answer is more progressive ideas --

more progressive elected officials!!

[TankLV]

109. Go vote for a REPUKE then - you'll be a lot happier, aparently...

and, since they wouldn't have changed ANYTHING, you'd have your wishes INSTANTLY!!!

now go back to that other site where you're obviously more happy...

[Wednesdays]

122. Man, I was about to say the same thing...

He/she protesteth just a leeeetle too much.

[GinaMaria]

120. Here's a link

www.economy.com/mark-zandi/documents/assissing-the-impa...

But we are talking about different things. I'm talking about the stimulus. What is happening all around you will not be helped by the stimulus. I am sorry you are going through this. Your frustration and anger is completely understandable. I don't think talking about the stimulus, or talking about who is or is not responsible for this mess will be productive and I'd rather focus on you surviving this and getting through. I don't know how at risk you are. I know of a couple of resources that may help.

http://www.makinghomeaffordable.gov/
http://www.angelfoodministries.com/

I don't know much about the unemployment benefit process. I hope other DUers will post additional resources for you.

The best way to survive this is to stick together and help each other. Please reach out for help if you need it.

Sending you a hug :hug: and thinking of you tonight. Please take care.

[happygoluckytoyou]

80. RIGHT ON..... THIS IS TRICKLE UP ECONOMICS.... and a great move!!!

FIRST PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TAXES... THEN THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TAX BREAK... cry me a river

[Iowa]

44. Yep...

It's a piddling amount that isn't going to do squat for the average person. On a macro scale it contributes to re-inflating the bubble - except that it isn't really enough to re-inflate it. And tax-cuts (along with bailouts) contribute to blowing up the national debt to such levels that at some point, probably under a Republican administration, it will provide an excuse for the government to do things like renege on the treasury bonds in the Social Security trust fund. And running up the debt and printing money to prop up bankers poses a very real threat of inflation down the road. It's conceivable that after getting their 401(k)s hammered and pulling out of stocks and moving to cash, people will get their cash hammered with hyper-inflation.

The Obama administration is attempting to prop up the same old trickle-down system with a kinder, gentler form of corporatism. The measly tax-cut is a nice bone that was thrown to the little people, but it is nothing but a pittance in the overall scheme of things, and it will eventually be taken back 100-fold via future inflation and a massive national debt created largely by Republicans, but exploding with these breathtaking handouts to bankers.

But I could get excited about things like this:

1) Taking the nation's money creation system out of the hands of private bankers
2) Writing tax laws that make it prohibitively expensive for corps to ship jobs overseas
3) Term-limits and election reform
4) Massive increases in estate taxes to get money and power out of the hands of a small number who have a huge negative influence on the country (Scaifes, Waltons, etc.)
5) Dismantling of wasteful government programs like "Home Security" and a restoration of civil rights, human rights, and privacy rights.

What we're seeing now is temporary band-aids and kicking the can down the road.

That said... it appears that most of these teabag turds are nothing but your typical right-wing anti-tax folks who have no ideology or principles beyond not wanting to pay taxes.

[DUlover2909]

56. I compared my paychecks to see the difference.

Before April 1st, my income tax percentage was 12.2%. My next check after April 1st was 8% on income tax. That seems like a pretty decent difference.

[happygoluckytoyou]

79. 401K..... you played the market.... you lost.... go find another place to CRY

join the GOP privatize social security club... you can cry about that too

[graywarrior]

43. Welcome to DU and I LOVE your website!

[madrchsod]

46. cool toons, shirts, and stuff......but

you had your picture taken with huffington!

welcome aboard

[what0now0toons]

86. Thanks, I appreciate that.

Thanks, I appreciate that.
Huffington's okay, she turned around from her GOP roots, and hey, isn't that what we want, people to wake up?
Cheers
www.whatnowtoons.com
left of center political cartoons

[Beartracks]

51. Right -- it's utterly amazing...

... how they just have to say the word "liberal" to get regular people to think that their own taxes MUST be going up.

[texastoast]

58. Love that!

Sending your website on and on and on.

Welcome to DU!

:toast:

[Deja Q]

71. Absolutely correct -- AND welcome to DU!

:party:

When President Obama speaks, when he talks of greed and arrogance, I certainly hope he is including those folks at the top. Most of us here in the bottom are hard working, educated, further our educated, and do our damndest to pay things back while enjoying just a little out of life. We saw the fraud, and we voted him in because that was the change we perceived - especially when compared to McBush and VP candidate McMoose.

Republicans lost their credibility, and it'll remain lost for years -- if not decades.

I just hope the same doesn't happen to the Democrats.

Worse, nobody would want to owe Ralph Nader an apology for an outre comment he made just after the election.

[frogmarch]

77. Welcome to DU!

Great Madhatters 'toon and great website. :thumbsup:

[what0now0toons]

90. It's Tea-totalers Republican wacko day

Thanks texastoast and frogmarch as well as all of you at DU, man a lot of you are checking out my site today, the Tea-totalers Republican wacko day. Right on. I'm just expressing my opinions the best way I can with pictures, though I'm only in one small paper at least the web is exposure in these tough times that are a result of this 27 year dismantling of FDR's new deal, and lo and behold we've come full circle and landed on the doorstep of another GOP depression. Thanks Regan for kicking this off. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
www.whatnowtoons.com
left of center cartoons

[ms liberty]

96. Awesome work. Welcome to DU! n/t

[what0now0toons]

106. thanks Ms liberty

I thank you
Cheers

[bdamomma]

5. President Obama, these people live in own delusional world

no use trying to reason with them. Carry on with your work.

[customerserviceguy]

76. I'll give him credit

he has promised to be the President of all the people. And I expect him to be forgiving of rebuffs to his hand outstretched in friendship.

Sometimes you gotta do that when you're truly trying to unify the country, instead of mouthing slogans about uniters and dividers.

[Wwagsthedog]

6. How have my taxes been cut if I don't draw a paycheck?

Old retired buzzard I am.

[rateyes]

8. Didn't you get an 8% raise in your Social Security? nt

[shaniqua6392]

35. It will also provide a one-time payment of $250 to recipients of Social Security.

They are getting a raise and a rebate from what I can gather. I wish people would read the Stimulus Package online before they spout off. (referring to the poster you responded to) I think what Obama did was pretty good and will help stimulate the economy. It is just going to take time.

[sallyseven]

55. In January you got 5.8% in your SS Check

Don't get greedy or I'll report you to Rush.

[pengillian101]

70. $250 in May. Link inside.

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pressoffice/pr/recovery-payments-pr.htm

[mvd]

9. And I'm sure over 95% of those teabaggers live very comfortably

It's like the opposite of the Boston Tea Party. What whiners.

[joeglow3]

10. My taxes went up

Damn cigarettes.

[TorchTheWitch]

19. I hear ya

I'm looking into this electronic cigarette thingie pretty seriously now.

[Jeep789]

91. Better hurry - They are attempting to make them illegal

I wonder why that would be? :sarcasm:

[DissedByBush]

110. They work, somewhat

They save money too.

I will forever hold a grudge against Obama for giving me this incentive. I don't care if it's good for me. I care that a rich politician in his ivory tower is screwing with my life and doing his best to take choice away from me.

[jewishlibrl]

11. An inconvenient truth

Teabaggers are playing dumb about their fake outrage about taxes. They only care about tax increases that target the few mega-wealthy, because those rich individuals are the same ones sponsoring these teabagging shows.

[sellitman]

101. Welcome to DU

Shalom!

[Quantess]

126. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[sutz12]

13. Tea-baggers to Obama: Please be quiet....

I'm arguing with the voices in my head.

[Beavker]

14. Half those morons are probably paid to be there.

Like the guys flipping signs on the side of the road in front of a business. When I lived in San Diego, there were these protesters that were 'hired', yes, 'hired' to stand outside of the company I worked for and hold a banner..."Shame on XXXXXX, unfair, blah blah blah.". There reasoning was flawed to start with, but so be it. But if the people organizing a protest can't find time to attend their own protest it's not REALLY a protest. Really.

[NYC Liberal]

17. Remember the Brooks Brothers "riot" in 2000?

[No Elephants]

15. Where were these people last year?

[TorchTheWitch]

20. they had an old white repuke as pres

They don't care about anything beyond that.

[AlbertCat]

38. BINGO!

That "coon" (my uncle's term) wasn't in the Whitehouse!

Taxes...schmaxes! They're just mad because they lost....to a mulatto! These aren't "protests" they're tantrums.

Teabaggin' Tantrums!

[Raine]

66. Yup, I think they're nothing but a bunch of racists

mad because a black man is President. I hear them say they don't like the "direction" the country has taken ... that seems like racist code to me. x(

[ShareTheWoods]

21. Yeah, I got my $13.55 every two weeks tax cut

I do not know where the rest went, but normal folks like me that have been paying income taxes since 1972
did not get shit.

I have also not missed working more than three weeks in a row since 1972. Still working since my personal tragedy
two years ago and I am damn near ready to get on disability for SSI and call it quits. I have paid my tax dues
far more than most in this country.

[Zavulon]

113. Same here, but as a smoker that tax cut was nullified quickly

by the increase in tobacco taxes, despite me being promised at as part of that 95%, NONE of my taxes would go up in any way.

You might not be a smoker, but if the cap-and-trade tax Obama wants ever gets passed, there goes your $27.10 per month and then some.


Just because Obama cut taxes doesn't mean they're not still too high. I'm sorry, but the teabaggers have a point. I'm just glad I don't have kids who will have to pick up the tab for all of this new spending.

[Wednesdays]

124. "Teabaggers have a point." "All of this new spending."

Hoo-boy, am I in the wrong forum? :crazy:

[Zavulon]

128. Oh, you're one of those.

Anything Obama does must be right. All government spending must be right. Deficit spending that dwarf's Bush's wasteful spending MUST be all proper, because it's being done by our side this time. :eyes:

Edited to ask if you approved of bailing out Wall Street. That's part of what the teabaggers are upset about, and I fully agree with them on that one.

[Javaman]

23. But but but...won't someone think of the ungodly weatlhy????

I think the teabaggers should go back to teabagging. It's a lot more fun. LOL

[ShareTheWoods]

24. Yeah, I got my $13.55 every two weeks tax cut

I do not know where the rest went, but normal folks like me that have been paying income taxes since 1972
did not get shit.

I have also not missed working more than three weeks in a row since 1972. Still working since my personal tragedy
two years ago and I am damn near ready to get on disability for SSI and call it quits. I have paid my tax dues
far more than most in this country.

[county worker]

32. You know, my wife and I completed our tax return last night

We owe money again this year. We are lucky that we both continue to make more money each year lately. Our taxes keep going up. We have no kids so we get no deduction for that. We are DINKS and I think we pay more percentage wise than most people do.

I'd like to have the money in savings but if we are going to use my taxes for college for young people or health care or saving someone's home. I'm OK with paying more than most people as a percentage of our income. Just stop making me pay for wars!

[Diane R]

37. Be thankful you've had a job since 1972. A lot of people aren't as fortunate.

[ShareTheWoods]

50. When you choose a crappy enough field...

They never get rid of you. They should feel lucky.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

27. excellent response from obama!!!

[PatrynXX]

28. okay now that I know what tea bagging means. quite using it

totally nutty.

robots will be robots.

[OKNancy]

29. everyone knows this isn't about taxes

It's anti-Obama and sour grapes. They lost.....they need to get over it.

[EFerrari]

49. I agree. But, they won't, imho. They'll just keep going

as they did when Clinton was in office. It seems to give them some missing purpose in their lives.

[LynneSin]

30. But what about the rich people? Is it fair to them they suffer

these assholes are defending the rich and saying 'fuck you' to their own needs

[SCantiGOP]

31. from South Carolina

I rode by the SC Statehouse while our unGovernor Sanford was holding his tea party. Newspaper estimated only 1,500 there. They are still very angry that we lost that war 150 years ago (was it that long ago, it seems like just yesterday) and that the Yankees went and elected a black President.
Keep it up folks. Pretty soon you will be an all-white, aging party capable of only winning most of the old Confederacy and a few western states.

[Initech]

34. So WTF are they protesting exactly?

[Zech Marquis The 2nd]

39. really anti-Obama protests

pretty sorry looking protests too from what I've seen on CNN :eyes:

[AlbertCat]

40. Mostly Bush era policies.

[Initech]

41. So they're protesting themselves then?

[Wednesdays]

125. And you thought the Orwellian madness was history on Jan. 20?

Oh, but the last 8 years was merely a dress rehearsal. :crazy:

[grahamhgreen]

63. My conservative freind in GA says it's a push for the so-called "Fair Tax" initiative

The fair tax shifts the tax burden to the poor and middle class, of course.

It was started here in GA by Radio dude Neil Boortz and one of our reps.

I have a counter proposal, BTW, called the "NO TAX" - in which we eliminate all personal income tax on people earning under 500k per year and only tax the wealthy and corporations.

What Obama claims he's going to do is increase taxes on the wealthy and Corp's in order to pay back the massive deficit he's running up.

So the (un)fair tax is a perfect rebuttal to his plan.

It must be stopped.

[notesdev]

114. You can't shift the tax burden to the middle class

because it already rests on the middle class.

I'm middle class. I make OK money, not great, not terrible. I pay far more in taxes as a percentage of my income than people lower on the income ladder AND ALSO far more than those higher on the income ladder. The middle class gets the high tax rate without any of the tax-offsetting boondoggles the well-off bought for themselves.

[Raine]

69. They're protesting that a black man

is president ... IMO. x(

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[Raine]

121. To the respondant

to my post that had to be deleted ... :wtf: why would you have such a nasty response that it had to be deleted. :shrug:

[No More Bushbots]

42. Obama to teabaggers: Zip up your pants!

Nobody wants to see you rubbing your scrotums in each others faces.

[Binka]

92. DUZY! LMAO!!!!!!

Welcome to DU!

[Sarah Ibarruri]

45. Does anybody else detest Repugnicans? They destroyed our country for 30 years and now they're

protesting someone who's fixing it.

:argh:

[what0now0toons]

108. Thirty Yeas of Republician rule=ruin( Clinton wasn't a real Dem)

eah, It's amazing how the brain washing but Fox news and Right Wing hate radio has whipped up such a crowd of people that just got a tax cut from a real democrat and they show their thanks with tea parties, mad tea parties is all that came to mind for me, and the madhatters behind it. My latest cartoon, www.whatnowtoons.com But getting back to Regan and the pig party he ushered in, I want to share a short animated film I did about these past thirty years...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8arYlKgYws

it's up on my website too.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

127. Awesome cartoons!! I'm e-mailing the site to my family members and friends nt

[what0now0toons]

132. Thanks, I appreciate that.

Thanks

[B2G]

48. Is this really a tax cut?

From what I understand, they're just reducing the amount of taxes withheld from your paycheck. Unless the tax tables are changed, won't we all just have this amount reduced from any refund we get...or owe this amount if no refund is due?

Maybe I'm confused...

[sallyseven]

57. They are changing the tax tables and all the

loop holes. Including the tax breaks that Reagan and bush pushed through for companies that send the goods over seas to be manufactured. Lets have a big [party and trash all the inported stuff.??? Paul Volcer is in charge of the task force.

[B2G]

60. Good!

So the tax tables for everyone making under $250,000 will be adjusted downward by 2010?

My concern is that if they're not, there's gonna be an awful lot of folks caught unaware next year when they file. That would be very not good.

[Deja Q]

72. EXCELLENT NEWS!

:woohoo:

Let's make things proper and fair again!

:woohoo:


Well, let's trash nothing - the imported toxic garbage would probably unleash a cloud of toxic spores that would maim or kill more people...

[defendandprotect]

88. There's almost nothing in the stores not made in China--!!

You can barely buy a toaster oven that doesn't explode, isn't defective, or won't quit

in under a year!

Steam irons -- absolute junk -- or weigh 10#!!!

[jtrockville]

52. "the false hope that wealth will trickle down"

Ain't that the truth!

[Deja Q]

75. He certainly knows what to say; this is absolutely terrific!

[santamargarita]

59. I'm glad he speaks out against these right-wing terrorists

They can take their tea bags and stick it up their fascist pig asses!

[grahamhgreen]

62. Higher pay is better than Lower Taxes!!!!

[Deja Q]

68. Or a lower cost of living. Make globalization REAL and not this grotesque, fraud-ridden farce.

:shrug:

[defendandprotect]

89. Right . . . let's unionize them all --- !!! This is simply about harvesting slave labor--!!!

[tailspin17]

65. 250k and under tax cuts

This 250k and below tax cut is not entirely true. If you look at the Making Work Pay tax credit, the credit is phased out at 75k, not 250k. So I don't know where the 250k number comes from.

So is 75k the marker between middle-class and upper-class? Because I make more than 75k, and I am by NO means rich- but I don't get a tax credit, and I don't get the $8,000 homebuyer credit. It's kind of bs.


Link to Tax Credit info below.
http://thomsonreuters.com/content/press_room/tlr_taxacct/368419

[Deja Q]

67. Well, unlike **, President Obama clearly knows what he's saying.

Which means the article linked in

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5463840&mesg_id=5463840

can't possibly be the truth.

[NeedleCast]

73. I got my tax cut!

Thank you President Obama!

[Wetzelbill]

78. In the end, facts do not matter to some people

They would never vote for a Dem anyway. Watching some video of those demonstrations, there are people there who believe we should burn books and nobody should go to college, They believe Obama is Muslim, socialist, not born in this country and that the Commies are coming to get them. Not all of those people there believe that, but, the point is, this is a highly radical group, nobody is winning or losing any election with these voters. All it really means is that the GOP is getting more and more fringe instead of working towards gaining ground in the demographics that they have been losing ground in. It's not good for the party, and maybe even not good for our country, because it means one of our great political parties has just gone off the deep end. That hurts policy.

[JenGatherer]

83. I wish it were just as you say and I am a socialist

But many people are there at the protests in a non partisan way because the incredible fraud and unchecked greed in the securities market. Our current leader's resulting bailout and the continuation of TARP has effectively looted the United States by the financial class. Please take a moment and go read this;

http://www.market-ticker.org/archives/P2.html

We could have saved Detroit 127 times over for what we have given to AIG. We have a fraudulent financial system that is raping the taxpayer. This is truly worthy of protest from all sides of our two party system.

[Vektor]

81. Obama to tea-baggers: "Suck my balls."

Oops! Can I say that here?

:evilgrin:

Because that's what Obama SHOULD have said.

[pengillian101]

111. No thanks for that visual.

Obama to tea-baggers: "Suck my balls."

Yes, we got the double meaning. But you just had to post that? Why, for the shock-jock effect?

I'm sure President Obama would just love to have his daughters read your post.

[Vektor]

134. No shock jock effect needed. It's just plain funny.

Please lighten up. DU can be a bit of a ribald place, and Obama's daughters will hear much worse throughout their lives.

So will you. What I said was pretty tame in the grand scheme of things.

[defendandprotect]

85. We need the Congress to begin to raise taxes on corporate/elites . . .

restore progressive taxation to past levels ---

and to re-regulate capitalism --- to the hilt!

[Name removed]

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[macebowman]

131. Excuse me?

Past levels? Seriously--our taxcode is currently the most progressive in the world. How that working out fur yah?

But a new study on inequality by researchers at the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) in Paris reveals that when it comes to household taxes (income taxes and employee social security contributions) the U.S. "has the most progressive tax system and collects the largest share of taxes from the richest 10% of the population." As Column 1 in the table below shows, the U.S. tax system is far more progressive—meaning pro-poor—than similar systems in countries most Americans identify with high taxes, such as France and Sweden.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23856.html

[Maineman]

93. I have an idea

Split the nation into two parts, one that has taxes and one that has no taxes. Let the tax complainers live in the tax free nation. I am sure they would love it. Raffles to fund defense, home schooling only, do-it-yourself road building. Sounds great.

[Name removed]

117. Deleted message

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[laylah]

94. ...

:shrug: "Story not found".

[hangman86]

98. Tea-baggers to Obama:

"DURRRRRRRRR?!????" :silly: :dunce:

[MetaTrope]

104. "Hundreds" of tea bag protests?

Show me a fucking list, you corporate tools.

[jewishlibrl]

105. The media won't show us a helicopter view of the tea parties

Because if they did, the whole fake Tea Party movement would be discredited more than it is, when people see how disinterested people were in their corporate-sponsored fraud.

[and-justice-for-all]

107. Sorry Mr. Prez, but those teabaggers are too stupid to understand that..

those sentences are for to large for their little brains.

[Coffee and Cake]

115. Now he just has to cut spending

When has tax cuts combined with massive spending not create huge deficits? It didn't work for Reagan or Bush.

[Psephos]

133. You're going to be lonely in this thread with that opinion

but you are absolutely right :)

[FunMe]

118. Americans to teabaggers: who are you?

[Name removed]

119. Deleted message

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[ohio2007]

135. Smokers face a hit as tobacco taxes spike (Obliquely answering a question with a statement)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3805708&mesg_id=3805708
the stupid shall be taxed while corporate welfare elite live to laugh at "the little people"

jmo