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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 01:22 PM
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Appeal says juror sent 'tweets' during $12.6M case
Source: AP

FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. – A building materials company and its owner have appealed a $12.6 million verdict against them, alleging that a juror was posting related messages on Twitter.com while hearing the case.

The motion filed Thursday seeking a new trial claims the juror sent eight messages — or "tweets" — to the micro-blogging Web site via his cellular phone. One read in part: "oh and nobody buy Stoam. Its bad mojo and they'll probably cease to Exist, now that their wallet is 12m lighter."

Another describing what "Juror Jonathan" did today, read: "I just gave away TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS of somebody else's money."

The motion filed by the lawyer for Russell Wright and his company, Stoam Holdings, alleges the juror researched the case and communicated with others outside the jury. Wright did not appear in court when the case was heard in Washington County in late February.

The jury awarded the money to Mark Deihl and William Nystrom, who invested in Wright's company. The company claimed its building material, Stoam, combines the insulation qualities of foam with the strength of steel.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090313/ap_on_re_us/juror_tweets



this stuff is starting to get out of hand
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 01:28 PM
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1. The juror should face a little jail time
IMHO.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 01:30 PM
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2. Any sensible judge will throw out the conviction and award


This idiot will be responsible for jurors having to turn over their electronic devices before entering a court room.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 01:33 PM
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3. Well shouldn't they be doing that anyway?
I'd like to think that most jurors aren't sitting there waiting for their phones to ring.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 01:34 PM
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4. Interesting.
I highly doubt "Tweeting" from his phone qualifies as "researching the case," given the one-way nature of the thing.

"Communicating with others outside the jury" is another matter.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 01:34 PM
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5. Has anyone started studying the growing social
problems associated with these technologies? I'm convinced that it is addictive behaviour for many, because they can't seem to stop themselves. I've had students (college) who literally panic when told they cannot have their cell phone on in class - not because they are parents who need to be in constant communication with their children (a subset issue of the problem, imo) or working in jobs that require them to be in contact . . . I will make provisions for people who can prove they need to have the phone on during class.

These students are generally younger (late teens, early 20s) who have had a mobile for most of their life. The thought that they have to go an hour without checking their texts is too much for them. I wonder sometimes if they sleep through the night, or wake on the hour to check their phones.

Twitter is just multiplying the problem exponentially.

How long before we need '12-step' programs for some of these people?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:00 PM
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10. steps 1 & 2...
1)cut off right thumb
2)cut off left thumb
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Tyler Generation Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 01:49 PM
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6. I fucking hate the ever loving fuck out of Twitter
People need to grow up. I'm in my 20's and barely know anyone in my age group that uses it. It seems like it's most popular with those over 35 trying to be hip and relevant, lol.

Seriously, people need to stop with this stuff in Congress and juries. Unacceptable.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 01:52 PM
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7. Supposedly two out of three people who tweet are repukes
:eyes:
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 11:16 AM
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27. interesting. Where did you read that? n/t
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wackywaggin Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 01:53 PM
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8. Agree completely!!

This fellow should be made an example of,as he agreed to the rules of the court and was sworn to uphold them. He should now face prosecution and be made an example of!!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:04 PM
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13. That's because you're not cool. n3wb
:D

j/k. I don't care for twitter either. I'm surprised it's actually taken off.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:46 PM
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24. Bullshit. Plenty o' 20-somethings use Twitter.
Edited on Fri Mar-13-09 04:04 PM by WorseBeforeBetter
Are they pissed off with Facebook and migrating to Twitter? Perhaps they've outgrown pet seahorses and cupcake-throwing contests. Narcissism and constant need for validation know many age groups, evidently.

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Veruca Salt Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 01:03 PM
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28. +1
And if I may, I also hate how they're called 'tweets' WTF is up with that??

I always think 'twitterpated' whenever I hear of that silly system. With apologies to all who like said silly system.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 01:57 PM
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9. When you are sworn in to set on a jury, you are told to NOT have any
communication with ANYONE regarding any facts of the case. The idiot deserves to be punished.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:03 PM
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12. But re-read the comments he posted
They sound like they came after the verdict was announced.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:23 PM
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15. If the jury has not been excused he is still technically still a juror, same rules. What
was so important that he couldn't wait till he got outside the courtroom? The rules are made very clear and he messed up.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:26 PM
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16. Maybe, maybe not
They allege that he made the comments during the case, but the comments sound like they were made after the case. I'm not assuming the defendant is telling the truth. It's just legal BS. And if it didn't affect the case, they won't throw out the verdict.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:03 PM
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11. Those comments sound like they came after the verdict was announced
Which means there's nothing there. Now, if there's messages saying "sitting in jury doody, Stoam is going down", then there's something to talk about.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:39 PM
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21. Agreed
These apear to have come after the decision was already made . I dont see a thing wrong with that unless the verdict was sealed.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:09 PM
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14. I wanna see proof.
That said juror actually exists and that he/she actually did what they say. If sounds fishy to me.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:44 PM
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17. Proof?
You aren't seriously saying that a large corporation that just got clobbered with a substantial verdict would try to game the system post-trial? That they wouldn't just submit to the authority of the court system and the considered verdict of 12 good citizens and true?

Golly, it just sounds so cynical. And true to life.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:06 PM
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18. This verdict will and should be overturned.
The defendents should be granted a new trial, or the case dismissed. There is no validity in the judicial system when impartiality and fairness of the jury is called into question. There should be a national ban on communication devices inside a court room, excluding those devices that allow for a fair representation of the proceedings to be presented to the general public (i.e. cameras, microphones, etc). Obviously, this would not apply to the prosecution and defense, as it relates to materials necessary for the conduct of a court case.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:40 PM
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22. Why?
looks to me like these messages are after the decision was made.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:45 PM
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23. The messages bring into question the impartiality of the juror...
there is no such thing as a fair trial if the jury can be called into question. Give the company a new trial.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 05:49 PM
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26. The juror only has to be impartial before the trial.
Edited on Fri Mar-13-09 06:01 PM by Laelth
In fact, by the end of trial, the juror should be partial. His mind should be made up one way or the other. Looks like this juror made up his mind. He, therefore, did his duty properly.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 05:47 PM
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25. I don't see how those messages interfere with impartiality and fairness in any way.
I think the verdict will be upheld.

:dem:

-Laelth
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:35 PM
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19. The really SICK part of the whole thing...
is, unlike Bernie Madoff's scam, Stoam is a wonderful product. I've seen it.

What he makes is a building system consisting of styrofoam panels with steel studs embedded in it. They manufacture a house at their factory and bring it out on a truck as panels. Six workers can have a Stoam house roughed-in in less than a day and a crew of twelve can have the whole house habitable in less than a week.

If it wasn't for the fact Russell Wright seems to have pocketed most of the money...
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 03:38 PM
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20. So?
From the tweets quoted it appears to have happened after the decision was made. Whats wrong with that?
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