Breaking news: Secret Service investigating threat from Scranton Palin rally

[RamboLiberal]

Source: Scranton Times-Tribune

The U.S. Secret Service is investigating a threatening remark directed at Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama during a political event in Scranton.

The agency followed up on a report in The Times-Tribune that a member of the crowd shouted, "Kill him!" after one mention of Mr. Obama's name during a rally Tuesday for Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.

The remark came while congressional candidate Chris Hackett was addressing the crowd at the Riverfront Sports Complex. There is no indication Mr. Hackett or Mrs. Palin, who took the stage a half-hour later, heard the remark.

The remark was reported almost immediately on the newspaper's Web site and today in the print edition.

Times-Tribune employees who covered the rally were interviewed today by the Secret Service.

Spokesman Darrin Blackford said the agency takes the threat seriously and will make an arrest if it can determine who shouted the remark.


Read more: http://www.scrantontimes.com/articles/2008/10/15/news/doc48f6128d24004210022010.txt

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Good! Hope they find the freak and scare the crap out of him.

[Eurobabe]

1. Enough is ENOUGH of this

fucking shit. They need to make a poster boy/girl out of whomever is spewing this crap at these rallies.

[honkydonkey]

38. They surely already know who said it.

I mean, McCain himself said we live in a much safer country because of Bush and the patriot act, etc.Ha! You can't tell me that those rallies aren't completely secure and videotaped from every angle. If they wanted him bad enough, they would already have him.

[salguine]

45. i doubt Republican rallies aren't watched like that. I would wager, however,

that Democratic rallies are so photographed, videotaped, miked, recorded, and otherwise spied on that a gnat couldn't fart without it being heard.

[jhrobbins]

54. I have really been wondering why that even though McCain/Palin

seem to be unwilling to do something about this that the SS wouldn't automatically step in and do something. Apparently now, hopefully they will.

[jhrobbins]

55. I have really been wondering why that even though McCain/Palin

seem to be unwilling to do something about this that the SS wouldn't automatically step in and do something. Apparently now, hopefully they will.

[arcadian]

2. What a bunch of douche nozzles.

More douchebaggery here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf_R3hQGYT4

[Name removed]

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[psychmommy]

62. did the religious couple say f--- you to you guys.

you guys are so damned brave. one dude threatened you guys. the poor guy going to iraq, with no clue about how we got there. that is some sad stuff.

[Joe Chi Minh]

75. what's so scary is that they don't look particularly mentally retarded, yet they

they vociferously declaim the most arrant nonsense with real passion - like young school-children! I'm almost grateful that people in the UK, who don't understand the first thing about their country's politics, are too apathetic to vote, never mind to be activists.

[kestrel91316]

3. I don't want him "scared". I want him prosecuted, convicted, and imprisoned.

And then I want him to have to face the public wrath once he's out of prison.

[Posteritatis]

4. To misquote Jayne, "conviction's scary!" (nt)

[BayjanDem]

24. Lock these mofos up. NT

[niceypoo]

30. Put them in Gitmo.....

....their worst nightmare come true

[sakabatou]

86. Here, here!

[dchill]

5. You know they're just DYING for something like this...

to happen at an Obama event - a threat against McCain. Then they could have an equivalency that would make it all seem irrelevant (to them.) Oh, and of course the "perp" would be arrested right on the spot - none of this next-day stuff.

[Peggesis1]

8. Catch any "Rovian" plants, too!

And if it happens at a Biden or Obama rally, I would be very suspicious that it would be a paid "plant" for just that purpose--to provide equivalency. So, *if* it happens at an Obama or Biden rally I *really* want that one caught immediately--so we can know where they came from--like from the McCain camp, for instance.

These people are playing with fire and must be stopped.

[dchill]

11. I can't disagree with any element of your post.

You are right on the money. But be warned - I've been called a "conspiracy theorist" before!

[MNDemNY]

25. Any one shouting threats at an Obama/Biden event should be restrained by the crowd, and turned over

to the Secret Service, on the spot!

[sohndrsmith]

66. ah, you beat me to that one... I wouldn't put it past them. Just like

I wouldn't be surprised if they offered some assistance with the whole ACORN debacle. The likeliest culprit on much of that is lazy, not-too-swift employee who thinks it's funny or an easy buck. Very dumb. But if it wasn't someone like that, think about who would benefit from this story - and who would actually write in names that were really easy to spot, like "Jive Turkey"?

Would an Obama supporter use that name to help Obama? right.
Would an Limbaugh lug nut use that name to 1) make his racist self giggle and drool at his cleverness, as he thinks he might be able to make Obama look guilty if he messes up enough cards with silly, even racist names.... ?

Think about it... it was dumb before it started.

You're right - they are way past the threshold of being the catalyst of some real potential violence. That is so not okay I'm amazed that they have been willing to play along with it like really CLUELESS starfish (...and starfish don't have brains, if I remember correctly).

[pipi_k]

84. I said the same thing

to the Mr. this morning

I would be just about rolling on the floor in glee if it turned out to be a "plant" by the Republican dirtbags.

Although I suspect it's probably just some "moran" with the brain of a reptile.

[Roy]

14. NO!!! THEY WILL NOT HAVE AN EQUIVALENCY!!!

Hopefully, Obama supporters will all point to him simultaneously ISOLATING HIM FROM THE REST OF THE CROWD, and when he runs.... follow him to the parking lot and take down his license number.

Then when he is arrested the whole country will know he is a plant from the fringe!

[dchill]

17. I know that. You know that. Any Democrat knows that.

But the McCountryFirsters don't know that. They just don't get it.

[Joe Chi Minh]

77. You mean "self-styled" MyCountryFirsters", don't you? What with their

love of outsourcing, removal of trade barriers. Does the bailing out of the big banks signal a new spirit of enterprise: career bankrupts?

[Roy]

90. Why sweat the irrelevant? n/t

[shadowknows69]

35. Shit, they'd probably be instantly taken out by a swat sniper

Where's the "eye in the sky" at McPalin rallies? You know they have these things under heavy surveillance.

[randr]

6. Palin is like fly paper

She should be sent out as often as possible to incite those who should be arrested and removed from civil society.
Finally as useful purpose for the duchbags.

[Buns_of_Fire]

10. I tend to think of her and her ilk as something else that attracts flies... n/t

[randr]

28. You are so right

Even shit has its uses

[crazylpn]

74. Agreed!

Yeah, Palin is nothing but a big pile of stinking "shit"!! She don't give a damn what her people think. She probabaly got all giggly inside just thinking about it! The damn bitch!

[louis-t]

15. Right. She should be the main battleground in the

War on Stupidity.

[DogPoundPup]

7. Include Lush Limpsmuck and mAnn Coulter in these Secret Service Investigations

as well as McCain and the Palin riot inciter...Free speech is one thing. You talk (hatemongering and 'kill' speak) this kind of talk, you need to pay!

[Myrina]

9. They should also indict HER for aiding and abetting domestic terror ...

:mad:

[Juan_de_la_Dem]

12. Long past time to shut this stuff down

[sarcasmo]

13. Kick, it's about time.

[frogmarch]

16. It's about damned time! k&r

[quidam56]

18. Sean Hannity SHUT UP ! Dick Morris SHUT UP ! Bill Oreilly SHUT UP !

What have you wrought upon my Country ? http://www.wisecountyissues.com

[Ikonoklast]

19. Scare the crap out of him?

If they find out who said that, dude is going to need a very expensive lawyer to keep out of prison.

[JDwho]

20. McCain and Palin should be held accountable(!)

for the climate they inspire with all of their fear/hate speak. I read yesterday,(here on DU),that Palin's speaking is very coded; As in, "Not one of us" = "Not White". Since 9/11, people have been afraid and now these underhanded candidates are whipping up a frenzy by feeding off of it.

Too bad the crowds at these rallies don't realize how badly they're being played. Or maybe they do, and they're just enjoying the ride.

They really give me the creeps.

I pray Obama stays safe. :hide:

[EFerrari]

21. So now we have a Bush controlled SS investigating threats

generated at Republican rallies?

Yeah, right! I hope they use both hands like Arnold did when he investigated his own sexual harassment case.

This is a FARCE and Obama better have his own security.

[RainDog]

22. Yes. This is what has to be done

Since Palin will not ask for basic decency among her base, the Secret Service will have to make sure she doesn't profit from this sort of b.s.

Palin is a total skank.

[wicket]

23. K & R

:kick:

[Dogtown]

26. K&R #32

[tonyj1600]

27. Mayor of Scranton

Well, I live in Scranton and let me tell you, when Biden and the Clintons were in at the Complex on 10-12-08, the energy for Barack and his team was great!

Here's a national video that was made right here in Scranton about Sarah Palin. It features Tom Ryan, Running for Mayor of Scranton!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exiyBYnJ00

[sasquatch]

29. Outstanding

[MagicKenny]

31. Decent Candidates Would Say Something BEFORE The Talking Points...

Why doesn't Beyond the Palin tell the crowd - before getting into the (red) meat of her speech - that people yelling "kill him!" and "terrorist!" are un-American? She and McCain share culpability for this, and - God forbid - if any harm should befall ANYONE, be it an Obama/Biden supporter or otherwise, McPalin should be punished for it.

[JohnWxy]

32. I wonder if Palin and McCain will ease off the rhetoric which incites hysteria and hatred.

It would be nice, but probably too much to ask of Palin. She really enjoys working up a crowd.

I think, McCain however has enough humanity to realize this kind of stuff is really dangerous. We have lost too many really good people because of kooks, to lose another.

I think the Secret Service should double up it's protection of Obama. - they should charge the McCain campaign for the extra cost.


recommended.

[Sequoia]

46. Let's put Palin on a floating ice block with a Polar Bear!

Maybe she'll float to Russia. Bu-bye!

What took the FBI so long anyway.

[demokatgurrl]

56. Please, spare the bear. n/t

[Rocknrule]

61. Sounds like a perverse sequel to "Life of Pi"

[Sequoia]

87. I almost read that book.

[baldguy]

33. If McCan't or Mooselini had said ANYTHING at all, that would be the end of this shit.

Instead THEY'RE ENCOURAGING IT! It keeps their pathetic huddles with their pathetic supporters in the news. Otherwise, the adults would correctly ignore them.

[Historic NY]

34. I'm scared some asshat will try something...to be a hero.

[GalleryGod]

36. Jeez,thanks fellas! Take off the shades and start investigatin' ? Youuuu Betcha' !

About effin' time!:argh:

[Hekate]

37. Way to go, remnants of the free press. SS: why did it take a reporter to make you notice?

About damn time.

Hekate

[Cha]

39. Doesn't matter if they heard him or not at

this point..mccain, palin, and little lyin' cindy mccain are responsible for this.

[yardwork]

40. Why don't these people get arrested at the time they yell the threats?

Anyone with the wrong sticker has been hustled out of Republican rallies for eight years. Why can't the secret service "determine who shouted the remark" when it happens?

[raccoon]

81. An excellent question. nt

[WillyT]

41. K & R !!!

:kick:

:mad:

[rasputin1952]

42. Having lived throught the JFK,MLK,RFK assassinations...

as well as the attempts on Ford and Reagan, the notion that some fool would actually be so stupid does not amuse me in the least.

I hope the SS finds this fool, prosecutes him and he gets many a year in prison. There are things that go pretty far OTT, this is one of them.

[PallinAroundWitPalin]

43. You knew this was coming when they started slinging mud!

Hello all Undergrounders!

This story is just the next logical side effect of dirty politics. If McCain was such a Maverick, wouldn't he find a bold and unique way of politicking?

His serious lack of uniqueness really began with his choice of Sarah Palin as his VP. I mean if we allow her to take the nation's second highest office why not just offer it to anyone?

This video might make my sentiment a little bit clearer.

Check it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exiyBYnJ00

[Broken_Hero]

44. Welcome to DU,

:hi:

[barbtries]

53. welcome to du

[rasputin1952]

59. Welcome to DU...

and let's ring in a new gov't in Jan....:hi:

[Joe Chi Minh]

76. He did offer it to just anyone, didn't he? That's the trouble. Or the good thing, if you're a

Democrat. But that clip is too close to the truth to be funny. Perhaps the fist ever cartoon documentary.

[jillan]

47. How the hell are they going to find the person?

No way.

[TheCowsCameHome]

48. The right stirs these crazies up - what do they expect?

They fire up these whackos and then claim they had no part of it.

Bullshit!

[RamboLiberal]

49. Check out this video from Ohio - Al Jazeera TV shot it

And its damn time American networks get out and expose these hateful looney tunes at McCain/Palin rallies!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

Frameshop: Ohio...Oh Brother
I grew up in the Midwest (Michigan), so I can say from experience that 99% of the depictions of Midwesterners as a bunch of backwards, racist ignoramuses are hooey. Then someone catches that 1% on video and I think,'Oh brother.' But as you watch this video of attendees at a Sarah Palin campaign rally in St. Clairsville, Ohio the key is not get angry or fearful, but to sit down and ask ourselves a very difficult question: What will it take to bring these folks back into the fabric of America life? It is a hard question to ask at moments like this, and even harder to answer.

Now, some people will say that this is a report from Al Jazeera TV, and so it should not be trusted. First off, that is nonsense. Second, even if one could attribute a political agenda to the reporting, it is difficult to deny what we see in the footage.

These are folks--ordinary folks--saying the most extraordinarily ignorant, racist, paranoid things. And they are saying them while walking in and out of a Sarah Palin event.

The video shows folks in Ohio who bring a startling level of bigotry and falsehoods about Barack Obama into a McCain campaign rally, and then walk out with all of those prejudices and lies having been confirmed.

At best, the Palin event affirms the dangerous misconceptions these folks have about a Presidential candidate. At worst it amplifies them and gives them coherence.

http://frameshopisopen.com/

[lovuian]

50. Secret Service its about FREAKIN TIME

this government is pathetic

[Bluebear]

51. Sarah Palin - J'ACCUSE!

[fascisthunter]

52. I Bet The Person Is a Freeper Too

[Swagman]

57. every rally should be filmed by a Democrat

[muntrv]

58. Punish McBush/Failin under the Patriot Act. These are acts of terrorism.

[dana_b]

63. if the Repubs can't behave and tell their people to cool it..

then maybe the secret service stepping in will do it.

[ikojo]

64. Freeper types claim to be all law and order,

surely they wouldn't harbor a TERRORIST in their midst? I'm positive the offending person has been turned over to law enforcement.

:sarcasm:

[sohndrsmith]

65. GOOD. Even if they did this just to make the statement, it would

be appropriate under the circumstances. Thank goodness they're taking it seriously - and doing so publicly. The probably deal with lots of ugly things that we never hear about. These nitwits (meaning McCain and Palin) are making the Secret Servicemen's jobs much harder and, yes, life-threatening. This is no joke. Imagine the heightened alert their brains must have to be in - constantly - because people do get fueled from a mob mentality, particularly if there's hate involved, I imagine. Yikes. Damn these people for being so reckless with the welfare of others. Deliberately.

disgusting...

[pengillian101]

67. Enough already from both sides.

It is way way beyond disgusting.

[TankLV]

70. What "both sides" shit is this? It's only ONE side that we know of - your REPUKES...

[pengillian101]

93. What "both sides" shit is this? It's only ONE side that we know of - your REPUKES...

Well you spew your garbage rants TankLV, yet I don't see a donation star by YOUR name.

Gag me with a spoon, as the kids say.

[Vickers]

79. Both sides?

:wtf:

Can you point to a non-Fox source for ANYTHING from the Obama side resembling what we are discussing?

[pengillian101]

92. WTF right back to you.

This is NOT a fox photo, for pete's sake. Learn how to view a picture's properties, would ya before you spout off! I just posted a random pic found at google. I have been a Dem for decades, not that I have to explain myself to YOU.

Thanks alot for such a cheery and warm welcome. Ugh. What a way to welcome newer members to DU.

:grr:

Picture link properties shows it belongs to someone here:

photobucket.com/albums/dd240/chinasailor/BidenPalinSquareOffVPDebate4N2mGM2H.jpg

[Vickers]

94. I never said the photo was Fox, jeenyus. I said "Can you point to a non-Fox source for ANYTHING..."

"...from the Obama side resembling what we are discussing?"

Still waiting for that.

:eyes:

For the record, the discussion is about threats made toward candidates at rallies. Please post a non-Fox link where this has occured at an Obama rally and is directed at McCain.

Simple enough for ya?

:rofl:

[crim son]

68. Every one of the assholes who makes these remarks,

or associates Obama with terrorists, should be hauled in for questioning, just so they know they're being heard and it's not okay. I'm afraid for Obama. If anything were to happen to him it would be a tragedy on a personal and national - nay, international scale.

[grannylib]

69. Maybe Caribou Barbie wasn't on the stage at that point, but she

HAS been on the stage at other rallies where that kind of shit has been said.
Accessory before the fact. Jail the asshole. And McAnus.
Their pathetic excuses and 'repudiations' that are nothing more than attacks are FILTH.

[krkaufman]

71. What the hell takes them so long. Aren't Secret Service AT the event ...

... and could have grabbed the guy/gal immediately?

[Joe Chi Minh]

78. It seems odd, doesn't it? I'd wanted to believe the best of them.

[krkaufman]

91. I'm sure they're being told not to press too hard, due to the damage ...

... an arrest would do to the McCain/Palin campaign.

[snot]

72. I'm afraid we're all MISSING THE POINT of these reports

I worried that the point is to establish that the U.S. SS was on top of these threats! So that, if Obama IS killed, their *sses are covered!

[juajen]

73. I believe they have deduced that this did not happen.

[scarface2004]

80. i think i heard palin snarling 'kill him, kill him!'

book her dano!!!

[dbmk]

82. I would love it if someone at Obamas rally cheerily yelled:

"WHAT A NICE OLD MAN!" when Obama mentions McCain.

[chill_wind]

83. LOL! A whole lot of voices at once-- repeated lots of times really loud.

eom

[pipi_k]

85. Last night when Obama mentioned that during the debate...

I could feel his concern...

not so much for himself, but for his family...


I think he's well aware of what nutjobs can, and will, do...not only to the objects of their hatred, but also to anyone associated with them.


In that moment, I saw a man who would likely give his own life to save his wife or kids. So even though he doesn't seem to have as much experience as many people would like him to have, for some reason, his own fear and concern for his family made me see him in a different light...I'm almost ten years older than Obama, but that moment showed me the protective father side of him, and I'll never forget the look on his face.

Not that I didn't feel safe with him before, but I feel safer now...

[Boudica the Lyoness]

88. McCain told the mob today he was of proud of them.

There is no doubt in my mind that the people who shout "Kill Him" and such at the Palin/McCain rallies have their approval.

This is the republican base. This is the bottom of the barrel. :(

[Yuugal]

89. Flame Away

But allow me to quote from "Twelve Angry Men"

"#8: There's another thing I'd like to talk about for a minute. I think we've proven that the old man couldn't have heard the boy say "I'm going to kill you," but supposing—

#10: You didn't prove it at all. What're you talking about?

#8: But supposing he really did hear it. This phrase, how many times has each of us used it? Probably hundreds. "I could kill you for that, darling." "If you do that once more, junior, I'm going to kill you." "Come on, Rocky, get in there and kill him!" We say it every day. It doesn't mean we're going to kill someone. "

I'm with juror #8. IMHO, just a riled up dumbass who chose the wrong phrase. Safety first of course so he should be checked out. I won't crucify him before he can even address what he meant.