Anger Is Crowd's Overarching Emotion at McCain Rally

[DogPoundPup]

Source: Washington Post

WAUKESHA, Wis., Oct. 9 -- There were shouts of "Nobama" and "Socialist" at the mention of the Democratic presidential nominee. There were boos, middle fingers turned up and thumbs turned down as a media caravan moved through the crowd Thursday for a midday town hall gathering featuring John McCain and Sarah Palin.

"It is absolutely vital that you take it to Obama, that you hit him where it hits, there's a soft spot," said James T. Harris, a local radio talk show host, who urged the Republican nominee to use Barack Obama's controversial former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., and others against him.

"We have the good Reverend Wright. We have Pfleger. We have all of these shady characters that have surrounded him," Harris bellowed. "We have corruption here in Wisconsin and voting across the nation. I am begging you, sir. I am begging you. Take it to him."

The crowd of thousands roared its approval.

In recent days, a campaign that embraced the mantra of "Country First" but is flagging in the polls and scrambling for a way to close the gap as the nation's economy slides into shambles has found itself at the center of an outpouring of raw emotion rare in a presidential race.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/09/AR2008100903169.html?nav=rss_politics/elections

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SEE THE VIDEO HERE AT CNN
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/10/09/henry.mccain.angry.crowds.cnn

[ladjf]

1. Their "anger" is horribly misguided. n/t

[lib2DaBone]

17. Well said... you think after 8 years they realize they've been lied to?

watching this video.. I expected the white hoods to come out any minute. Watching these people squirm is pure poetry.

[ladjf]

21. I'm afraid that there is a large base of superstitious people than

is commonly realized and I include those with strong theological tendencies. Once that Rubicon of
subjectivism is crossed, any fabrication can be sold as authentic.

[MetaTrope]

33. The greater the cognitive dissonance, the more violently they'll deny it

[dchill]

40. They'rethe ones, the few, who will never realize.

They are ruled by their own fear & loathing.

[SharonAnn]

79. Absolutely, they look like and sound like a Klan rally.

[illuminaughty]

47. It's frightening

And "misguided" is a great description. I'm well aware of our population's ignorance, but, WOW,
it is just stunning that they don't have a clue how we have gotten into this mess. Not a clue what a shell of our former self (as a country) we really are and who's responsible for it.

As we spiral toward fascism are they enjoying it? Do they understand the meaning of socialism?
I don't know, this just really creeped me out, I guess because I like to pretend that mentality doesn't exist.

[ladjf]

57. This is a gothic horror story. nt

[dhpgetsit]

2. Haters

I hate 'em.

[Tallison]

3. Sucks to be losing n/t

[hedgehog]

4. After 8 years of Bush, why are these people still so angry?

[GoddessOfGuinness]

10. Racism is alive and well in the USA

I'm not suggesting all of them are racist; but I'd be willing to bet that a good number of them are.

Couple that with the fact that many of them were hyped by Palinocchio's Convention performance...it gave them a second wind that many of them didn't think they'd have. It must be a real dissappointment to gradually discover that she's just really not suitable VP material.

How much do you want to bet that no matter how wide the election margin when Obama wins, there'll be lots of thugs screaming for a recount?

[torbird]

11. Because

They're angry because they truly believed that the Bush years would kill the Democratic Party (and, secretly, they probably fantasized about actually killing Democrats). Now it's coming to an end and they can't handle it. The result is something bordering on homicidal mania; the final act is a fascist putsch.

This is truly surreal, not to mention scary. Someone has to put a stop to this baseless and escalating hatemongering. Where are the responsible GOP'ers?

[qanda]

15. These are the 25% or so who still think Bush is doing a good job

People need to be reminded about just how crazy these people really are.

[AlphaCentauri]

16. of their failure n/t

[BayjanDem]

20. And at whom? NT

[Anywho6]

35. Greed feeding on more greed becomes insatiable n/t

[SemperEadem]

43. because they can't understand why other whites are

selling their "white heritage" out by backing a black man and they're pissed that there isn't anything that they can do about it.

[struggle4progress]

52. Because they have a limited emotional range: gloating, bullying, throwing tantrums

[fascisthunter]

74. mental illness without proper help

[treestar]

80. Simple answer: black man as President

They are starting to feel desperate.

They are going to be horrible during the Obama Administration. Maybe they'll calm down after they realize the world will not be coming to an end for white people.

But the extremists are startiing to get upset at the possibility.

[McCCain4retirment]

5. I would act the same too if I was down 9 points and loosing states by the hour

[Athletic Grrl]

30. He's down 11.

Even better. Can't wait for the Troopergate report tomorrow. Even Toad's falling on his sword to save his wife won't sway this panel, who allowed the investigation despite the Palins' attempts to quell it.

Could be down 15 by Monday.

[DogPoundPup]

6. Antagonize the crap outta' these maniacs to get their ass thrown in jail

But...that's just me sayin' :)

Obviously the streets would be so-o-o-o much safer with these loons behind bars or in strait-jackets :shrug:

[SemperEadem]

44. I totally agree

let them feel the sharp edge of what the loss of freedoms they've been willing to give away in the last 8 years could feel like. How about the media roling tape on the faces of these dangerous people at these rallies and giving the tape to the FBI so that they have a record of the hostile, angry, subversives who are willing to give up everyone else's freedoms and privacy because "they've got nothing to hide". The minute this is turned on them, they are going to squeal like the pigs they are.

[CitizenPatriot]

7. these people are mentally and spirutally ill

seriously. they all need to be deported, medicated, or locked up.

Ha ha!!!! How's that for some fear, freepers? You treated liberals like scum for years- treated art like scum- treated books and learning like it was a crime. Guess what? Jesus was a liberal. Liberals have saved empires, time and time again. It's people like you, rigid and angry and self-pitying beyond belief who ruin empires and cause world wars.

You people are sick. You can't ruin our party this time. I have no pity for you.

[Dogmudgeon]

8. Next stop: the Beer Hall

God help us.

--p!
And I'm an atheist.

[OswegoAtheist]

27. There can't be a beer hall putsch...

...without a Ludendorff, and thankfully, the only one possible, St Ronald of Reagan, is dead. No living Repuke can muster the kind of admiration and loyalty it would take to completely turn the country on a dime.

Oswego "McKampf" Atheist

[Dogmudgeon]

34. True, that

I also think that the political Right has burned itself out for the time being. But "the time being" could be very brief.

What I think we're seeing is real, hard-core extremism taking root (again) in this country. Episodes like the Philadelphia, Mississippi civil rights workers murders (1964), the Oklahoma City bombing (1996), and the various clinic-burnings and doctor-shootings are being joined by a growing lynch mob mentality.

John McCain is so covetous of the Oval Office that he's blind to the implications and consequences of his acts.

An era of liberal resurgence could easily create intense self-pity and persecution fantasies among the Right; when their fortunes improve (whether in 2010 or 2032 or 2100), we could be facing a more intensely malevolent political movement.

--p!

[54anickel]

9. There's a partial video over at CNN under the titled "McCain goes on the attack." I caught most of

the live feed earlier today. Those folks are scary, especially the angry guy hollering about socialists. CNN cut that part off in this clip.

http://www.cnn.com/video/

[illuminaughty]

48. They cut it?

They're showing it now (about 1am) and it's the second time I've seen it. It just totally creeps me out. Do you think this guy (or anyone else in that mob) could define socialism? These people look the mob in Frankenstein.

[NeoConsSuck]

12. I cannot wait until election night

to troll their boards.

Yes, I know it's juvenile, but they've had their majority for 8 years now, and did nothing but kill innocent civilians throughout the world, kill the global economy, and erode our civil rights.

[bemildred]

13. I thought anger was bad, "angry leftists" and all that. nt

[DogPoundPup]

14. Moral and ethics don't pertain to self absorbed 'family values' [sarcasm]

F R E A K S

[treestar]

81. LOL, yes, angry feminists, angry blacks

All routinely condemned for such by the wingnuts for years.

[Hulk]

18. The old fart and his "lipstick pig" have brought politics to a new low....

...and that's saying something after 8 years of rove and this f*cktard we have in the White House today.

He should be real proud of himself. I'll bet his mother is proud. A desperate old man, tossing anything he can lay his hands on into the fire.

A sad shadow of a once prominent politician.

[ladjf]

58. McCain and Palin are playing around a negative force that far

transcends their ability to either understand or control it. They have truly gone insane in their
quest for the Presidency. McCain is a modern day Capitan Ahab. Let us all hope that his obsession doesn't send us to the "bottom of the sea".

In the real world, it's time for the significant presence of the Secret Service and the FBI at these meetings. Congress should come back into session and use their authority to get the McCain campaign
under some semblance of control. McCain, himself, should be severely censured by the Senate. He should be ordered to cease and desist his efforts for foment violence during this election.

[WyldRogue]

19. Went to see the video....

...but it would never load and play. Hope someone puts it on Youtube.

[psychopomp]

54. Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us&fmt=18

[ronnie624]

84. Wow. It isn't just anger.

I saw unadulterated hatred and bigotry of all sorts, and a definite propensity for violence. They were itching to tear their political opponents to pieces.

The video of Obama supporters on the other hand, is a striking contrast. They were all able to articulate truthful, coherent, logical reasons for their opposition to McCain, without invoking epithets.

A case study in the psychological differences between liberal and conservative activism.

[Piewhacket]

22. Thanks.... glad to see DogPoundPup started this one...

I've been watching the McCain/Palin hate rhetoric for more than a week
with a growing concern.

If repuks do not tone it down, THERE WILL BE VIOLENCE.
Incitement to violence is a crime.
James T. Harris, for one, needs to get a clue fast, as Harris reportedly pleaded with
a WAUKESHA, Wis republican mob at todays McCain/Palinto rally exhorting them
to "take it to Obama", pleading "I am begging you. Take it to him.",
as the mob reportedly howled.

Now I'm confident the folks here know full well what that piece of garbage Harris
meant. McCain/Palin campaign needs to show leadership and get some control of their
speakers. But they won't.
And if they don't.... well, we'll obviously have to use it against them.

So, got the picture?
I predict it will get worse until there is a serious meltdown.
Keep track of any partisan law enforcement.
STAY ALERT, STAY COOL, KEEP SAFE, PROTECT EACH OTHER, ESPECIALLY ON ELECTION DAY.

about 27 days left. a lifetime.

[byronius]

24. Expect a week of hate-crimes.

Jail for some, depression, suicide, and increasing alcoholism for others.

They deserve every bit of it for what they've done, and for what they're doing.

[Piewhacket]

37. They are trying to incite (or explain) an assasination.....

of guess who.

Now if the Secret Service does not get SERIOUS
and ramp up protection of Obama... including ARRESTING
some of these republipricks inciting violence...

then I expect I'm going to find myself getting
increasingly.... er, concerned and possibly even... ah, unpleasant.

That's all I'm sayin.
For what its worth.

[AndyTiedye]

41. That Might Be The Only Way They Can "Win"

It worked for them in 1968



It would probably work even better for them now,
since so many of us vote early or absentee,
and all those votes would be down the :hurts:

[proud2BlibKansan]

89. They have ramped up protection

I talked to a reporter just a week ago who said they are increasing his protection all the time and will keep doing so as long as threats are coming in.

[shanti]

23. fear

is the base emotion of these people, and their leaders are really playing it. now is when we'll see their true ugliness come out.

[bemildred]

25. Yep. Fear, anger and hate all go well together.

And fear makes you stupid, too.

[Kalifornia.Kid]

26. Same Bigots Who Spat on Black College Students in the 60's

Some of those old-timers - they were probably part of the horde that spat on the black college students (Vivian Malone) back in Alabama in the 60's.

[jillan]

28. I am starting to get worried that these bigots are going to lose it when Obama wins.

Nothing is scarier than a pissed off stupid republican.

[ladjf]

63. As individuals, they are cowards by nature. In groups, they hype

each other into a frenzy of imagined power. The U.S. is not Germany of the 1930's, yet. And McCain/Palin fall short of Hitler in oratory skills.

[HopeHoops]

66. How about DRUNK pissed off stupid Republicans?

[bdamomma]

68. they should round them all up and put them in isolation

these are not well people at all. Full of hate and division, thank goodness I am not a follower.

[NRaleighLiberal]

29. I think it is time for the media to check out these people who grab the mic - my feeling is that

they are mcCain campaign plants. Which is worse, because THEY are inciting the anger and potential violence!

[jdadd]

32. I had the same thought...

My suspicion rose when I saw the black guy in that crowd of clan members

[illuminaughty]

49. Oh hell I think you're right. they are plants

I just now saw the black guy amidst the mob of ubervoters.

[jdadd]

82. Check out post 70 this thread.....

Someone else had the same thoughts, You and I have the same number of posts, (Cue Twilight zone) :hi:

[bdamomma]

75. I wouldn't put it pass them to have plants in the audience.

but some people who are not plants harbor those feelings of hate and racism.

[tanyev]

85. They're deliberately keeping media away from the people at the events. Hmmmm.

Palin staff keep journalists locked inside press area to prevent them from writing 'negative things.'

During Gov. Sarah Palin’s (R-AK) speech in Florida this morning, campaign staffers kept the press locked out of the park and away from supporters attending the speech:

Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn’t permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, “Can I help you?” and turn the person around.

When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn’t allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday.

Palin has still yet to give a single press conference since being tapped as Sen. John McCain’s running mate on August 29.

http://nearing.newsvine.com/_news/2008/10/07/1961730-palin-staff-keep-journalists-locked-inside-press-area-to-prevent-them-from-writing-negative-things

[DeepModem Mom]

31. K&R

[2Design]

36. inciting to riot should be arrested n/t

[Kablooie]

45. Nope. It's perfectly legal freedom of speech. Just scary as hell.

[ladjf]

59. It is time for Federal intervention. McCain should be censured and

ordered to cease his campaign of violence. This has passed the threshold into illegal acts. The MSM is aiding and abetting the call to insurrection.

[Kablooie]

38. Damn. This is getting scary.

[jrockford]

39. Scary is bloody well right nt

[Homer12]

42. James T Harris RightWing Radio Plant in audience, Please kick this Thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7393121&mesg_id=7393121

[illuminaughty]

50. Kick

great catch! He is definitely a plant. That doesn't make it less scary, though. I hope they can handle them after they've whipped these lunatics into a frenzy.

[Kablooie]

46. Sounds like McCain is releasing his nuclear option. Create civil war and tear the country apart.

[ladjf]

61. Who in the Government has the intelligence, commitment and

courage to recognize what is happening and to take the necessary steps to head off a possible out of control insurrection?

[JimDandy]

51. Call them on it. Go to a McCain rally as a plant

and bring a petition that says: "Arrest the Terrorist Obama." Then go around getting people standing in line for the McCain rally to sign it. Next have a Dem friend call the police and say: "either arrest Obama for being a terrorist or arrest people at this rally who are inciting violence by stating he is one." This should all be filmed surreptitiously, of course.

The McCain team and supporters are already ACTUALLY calling him a terrorist (see film on youtube). Call the FUC**** on it. Neutralize them by letting the whole world see how truly disgusting they are. Independents will be repelled in droves by McCain's tactics.

[greyghost]

53. Get a grip! I'm not the least bit afraid, nor is Barack. In case you

missed it Barack called McInsane out in the Charley Gibson interview.

Barack asked Gibson point blank, "why didn't McCain say any of this to my face when he had the chance?" On the street ladies that's a called put up or shut the fuck up. Barack threw down the gauntlet, lets see if McCain has the balls to pick it up!

[tom_paine]

55. Anger is always the main component at Nazi and Nazi-like Rallies.

The Bushie masks are coming off ever faster. Might be nice if people noticed.

but, as we all know, once a bamboozle reaches a certain catastrophic level, iot ecomes literally painful for people to admit the bamboozle.

Then they get angry, just begging for a demagogue to lay some blame for them.

It's the Jews. No, no, that's not it this time around. New imes call for new Bushie Marketing Strategies.

It's the LIBERALS. There. Now it's updated for 2008 Amerika.

[NeoTheo]

56. After Sarah gets them all riled up

and they really do turn deadly, then the rulers will have something they can point to, in addition to the global economic collapse, as to why they need to implement martial law and suspend the election. (Remember, troops are already in place)

[FreeStateDemocrat]

60. Hatemongers, Hitler ascended to power the same way, it is unconscionable behavior that needs to be

condemned.

[ladjf]

62. These hate rallies are the closest expressions of Nazism we've

ever witnessed in the United States. But, McCain and Palin lack Hitler's skills. Further, there were other factors present during the 30's in Germany that resonated the situation, allowing Hitler to illegally seize the Government. We haven't reached that point YET.

[Frank Cannon]

64. If we haven't reached that point...

we've come within a hair's breadth of it.

[ladjf]

87. The biggest difference is that there was a larger majority of

Germans ready to follow Hitler than there are Americans buying into the McCain/Palin trash. Further, there was still a vast amount of German resentment about their treatment in the WWI surrender treaty.

[Dinger]

65. I'm Embarrassed For My State

Waukesha is the reddest goddamn part of the state. Sickos

[bdamomma]

67. McCain and Palin are fueling the crowd with their hatred.

this is not going to be good. More division and more hatred by the republican party.

this is not only going to be a class war. Those people who attend these McCain rallies are full of hate and racism. Do you ever see a minority in the crowd?

[Fluffdaddy]

69. This is the GOP base we all "thought " we knew. We were right

[catgirl]

70. They have plants in the audiences

These plants get to say what Palin and McCain really want to say.

Check out this DU thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7393121&mesg_id=7393121

[Doctor_J]

71. WaPo spins for GOP. The word is hatred. Say it with me

hatred. Hate is the predominant emotion felt by Repukes. They hate people of color, hate people who work for a living, hate anyone who pokes a hole in their Fox News/Hate Radio bubble of denial.

[Vogon_Glory]

72. Savor The irony, News Critters! The Guys You've Been Kissing Up to HATE YOU!

Savor the irony, news critters! For most of the last eight years, you and your broadcast/cable news networks have been toadying for the Republicans and the Conservatives, and they STIL Hate you!

No doubt you'll try to make up for it by jumping on every Obama administration micro-scandal you can find, and then try to claim that your coverage is evn-handed and non-partisan. Then you'll be wondering why any remaining liberal and centrist friends you still have will be treating you with contempt and disgust.

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[fascisthunter]

73. hahahahaha..... oooo, they are angry

folks... laugh at them.

[Skittles]

76. I'D RATHER KICK THEIR ASS

YES INDEED

[fascisthunter]

78. I Hear Ya.... just nobody show the slightest fear.

I certainly won't... I think thier behavior being exposed to Americans will seal the deal.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

77. Fear disguised as anger.

They're the most frightened bunch of morans on God's green Earth.


Typical Republican

[bdamomma]

83. they are bullies too.

which makes them cowards.

[customerserviceguy]

86. Over at the Freeptard board

there has been speculation that there would be rioting upon McLame winning the election. I strongly suspect that they've been projecting, and upon Sen. Obama's victory, racial hate incidents will rise in the next few months leading to the inauguration. Look at how anti-Muslim violence increased after 9/11, and you'll have a rather scary picture of what to expect in the 'heartland'.

[LibertyLover]

88. The depth of anger is frightening

I just watched a little clip on CNN about a parking lot owner in North Carolina who has posted a sign that if you are an Obama supporter or have an Obama sticker on your car you may not park in his lot. It turns out that the state of North Carolina has an agreement (the clip did not say if it was in writing or if he received compensation) for its employees to park in the lot. The owner during the interview said that he was just trying to inject some "fun" into the campaign, but added that he was offended that Obama was running for president and was doing his part to support John McCain. Not violent per se I admit, but he did say that if an Obama supporter parked in his lot he wouldn't have them towed or come after them with a baseball bat - yeah, nice.