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Satyagrahi Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:45 PM
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US Bolivia ambassador 'expelled'
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 05:03 PM by Satyagrahi
Source: BBC News

The US ambassador to Bolivia has been ordered to leave the country by President Evo Morales, reports say.

Mr Morales accused Philip Goldberg of supporting the opposition and encouraging the division of the country.

He said the foreign minister would inform Mr Goldberg that he "should return to his country at once".

Bolivia has seen large protests in recent weeks by opponents of Mr Morales' economic and social policies.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7609487.stm



Bolivia asks U.S. ambassador to leave

LA PAZ (Reuters) - Bolivian leftist President Evo Morales on Wednesday asked United States Ambassador Philip Goldberg to leave the South American country after accusing him of instigating protests against his government.

"The ambassador of the United States is conspiring against democracy and wants Bolivia to break apart," Morales said during a speech at the presidential palace in La Paz.
-snip-

The announcement came as Bolivia was forced to reduce natural gas exports to Brazil because anti-government protesters damaged a pipeline, and a day after protesters stormed public buildings in the eastern Santa Cruz city, an opposition stronghold.

In late August, Goldberg met with the governor of Santa Cruz, Ruben Costas, who the Morales government has blamed for the unrest.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1047876320080910?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

Morales Says He'll Expel U.S. Ambassador From Bolivia, EFE Says

By Bill Faries

Sept. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Bolivian President Evo Morales said the U.S. Ambassador, Philip Goldberg, is ``persona non grata'' and accused him of fomenting divisions in the country, EFE said, citing a speech by Morales in La Paz.

Morales, saying he ``isn't afraid of the empire,'' gave the speech at the presidential palace hours after the government blamed opposition groups in eastern Bolivia for damaging a natural gas pipeline to Brazil, the newswire reported.

A call by Bloomberg News to the press office of the U.S. Embassy in La Paz wasn't answered.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=a2wJfXjyxv88&refer=latin_america


The territorial integrity of Georgia has to be respected! Oh, wait...

Too much hypocrisy in Washington, this world go crazy...
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:48 PM
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1. Fuck Goldberg! Go Evo!!!
I wonder if Phillip Goldberg has any connections to Lucianne Goldberg (who blew LBJ once) and her idiot son?
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:53 PM
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3. LBJ, who I am no fan of, touched that Lucianne Goldberg!? YUCK!
Is THAT her claim to fame????????

8643
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:54 PM
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5. Unfortuntately, yes
And to think he could have had LadyBird in her prime (she was very sexy in her day)
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Grins Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 11:39 PM
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23. I've heard that said....
I've heard that said about LBJ and Satan's bitch, but I can't verify it. Whaddayagot and where?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:50 PM
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2. Sometimes its a shame
that smilies can't be used in the subject line. :rofl:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:54 PM
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4. Here's a photo of our ambassador leaving Bolivia

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:14 PM
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7. Here's a photo of the piece of filth standing with Colombian criminals operating in Bolivia
US Ambassador in Photo with Crime Lord
La Paz, Nov 6 (Prensa Latina)



The Bolivian Foreign Ministry demanded explanations Tuesday from US Ambassador to La Paz Philip Goldberg about a photo in which Goldberg appears together with Colombian-born criminal Jhon Jairo Venegas.
The photo, part of a police investigation against a recently dismantled international crime ring operating in Bolivia, was shot in September at the Expo Cruz Fair in Santa Cruz, Bolivia.

Well-known Bolivian opposition member Gabriel Dabdoub, president of the Bolivian Chamber of Commerce and Industry (CAINCO), is also in the photo with Goldberg and Venegas, the latter now in Palmasola Prison.

Goldberg and Dabdoub denied knowing Venegas and said the photo was simply, like many others, taken with unknown people.

Foreign Minister Choquehuanca, who has sent a note to the US Embassy requesting an explanation, stated it was strange that someone unknown had a picture taken with the US ambassador when the Embassy security corps habitually does not allow anyone to get near him.

Bolivian President Evo Morales mentioned the photo in an interview with Italian daily Il Manifesto when discussing right-wing destabilization attempts in his country.

http://boliviarising.blogspot.com/2007/11/us-ambassador-in-photo-with-crime-lord.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~


As several U.S. Peace Corps workers assigned to Bolivia have testified, his embassy has told them all to report any names and addresses and personal information of Venezuelan or Cuban citizens working in Bolivia back to the U.S. embassy.

The story was illuminated when a Fulbright scholar was recently assigned to Bolivia and was started to be informed it would be expected of him. His reaction was outrage at being expected to become a spy and he went public. Other Peace Corps workers confirmed his story as having happened to them, as well.

This was only a few months ago.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:39 PM
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9. Wow, thanks, Judi! I didn't know about this. It's just one big Crime Family, ain't it?
Here and there.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 06:10 PM
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13. Getting him the hell out of there would be lifesaver for the majority of Bolivian citizens.
He has been huddling with the racist white oligarchy, to whom you referred in an earlier post from the very first, and the indigenous Bolivians in the area are keenly aware that the oligarchs also make secretive trips to Washington, D.C., at times, as well.

He's not acting in the interests of the country he was assigned to, he doesn't benefit anyone there but the European descended oligarchs who occupy the land which was stolen from the Bolivian indigenous not that long ago when they were driven off by Nazi-supporting Hugo Banzer during his efforts to create a "white Bolivia" by awarding the stolen land to settlers from South Africa and Rhodesia, etc.

Bolivia has only suffered from his presence there. He should have been driven away long ago. Bush uses his ambassadors to subvert democratically elected leftists governments. What a wretched shame.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:11 PM
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6. Another republicon FAIL
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 05:13 PM by SpiralHawk
The republicon homelanders misunderestimate themselves, the world, and morality, and give American nothing but FAIL.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:32 PM
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8. Thanks for posting! I rather expected this. The Bushwhacks are out of control in Bolivia.
They are using USAID-NED funds (our tax money) to support the white racists who want to secede from Morales' government, and take Bolivia's main resource, its gas reserves, with them. They are deliberately causing mayhem in Bolivia. The troublemakers that Philip Goldberg has been meeting and colluding with are as nuts and as fascist as the Bushites.

Get this: What they claim to be fighting about is Morales' use of $50 million to provide a $35/mo. pension for the elderly poor, taken from the gas profits. By nationalizing the gas resource, and negotiating with the contractors, Morales has doubled Bolivia's gas revenues, from $1 billion/yr to $2 billion/yr. So crying about $50 million for penniless elderly people is nuts. Their real problems are greed, lust for power and racism. They are the white, landed elite. They hate Morales (indigenous) and the majority poor (indigenous), and are cooking up civil war, with Bushite support, to split off the eastern provinces, where the gas is, into fascist mini-states in control of the resource. Argentina and Brazil--Bolivia's two main gas customers--have both told these white separatists that they will not trade with them. Period. End of story. The OAS has tried to talk to them. The Catholic bishops have tried to talk to them. Everybody's tried to mediate with these assholes. But their own craziness, stoked by Bushite craziness, prompts them to continue, insanely, to rip the country to pieces. Peace and prosperity are at hand. They reject it. They want war, as do the Bushites.

According the Ecuador's president, Rafael Correa, the Bushites have a three-country strategy to instigate similar fascist secessionist wars. Venezuela. Ecuador. Bolivia. The Bolivian fascists are in an impossible position. Bolivia is landlocked. Next door, in Paraguay, the voters just elected the first leftist president of Paraguay, who is aligned with the Bolivarians and good allies with Brazil and Argentina. So Paraguay has been removed as a potential staging area for Bush/U.S. military support of the white separatists, in the adjacent east provinces of Bolvia. (The presidents of Ecuador and Paraguay both want the U.S. military out of their countries.) With Brazil's and Argentina's refusal to trade with any separatist Bolivian states, and with Bush-U.S. military options curtailed (Bolivia is surrounded by leftist countries), the Bushites' continued stoking of civil war in Bolivia may be a distraction--a way to weaken a Venezuelan ally. Venezuela may be more vulnerable.

To appearances, Venezuela is very stable, but there is evidence of a fascist cabal planning secession in the Venezuelan state of Zulia, which is on the Caribbean, and also adjacent to Colombia (Bush Cartel client state--larded with $6 BILLION of our tax dollars in military aid, and with the Colombian military and closely tied rightwing death squads basically out of control). This may be why the Bushites reconstituted the 4th Fleet, which is now in the Caribbean roaming around off the coast of Zulia, Venezuela. And they may think it's 'easy pickins' with this mess they have created in Bolivia, and other crap they are pulling (non-stop psyops/slander campaign against Chavez, most recently using the DoJ and the US Attorney in Miami in the absurd "suitcase full of money" prosecution--see www.BoRev.net).

Whether this is their plan for bringing the oil war home to this hemisphere, or not--and I think it is--the Bushfucks' behavior in South America has already been bad enough to cause serious alienation of the southern half of the hemisphere. Brazil and Argentina just yesterday announced that they are going off the U.S. dollar. South American countries are swiftly moving toward a South American "Common Market," (UNASUR), not including the U.S. Honduras, of all places, last week gave the Bushites the finger, and joined the Bolivarian trade group, ALBA. Nicaragua elected the Sandinistas. Country after country has gone leftist--almost all of South America, and El Salvador and Panama will likely be next. Then Mexico.

The Bushites don't have to do much to permanently destroy U.S./Latin American relations. Trying to grab Venezuela's oil, by an insurrection in Zulia, would probably do it. Then we may find virtually all U.S. ambassadors ejected. Also, Morales would not likely have done this--ejecting Goldberg--without backing from other South American countries. Venezuela and Ecuador could be next to eject U.S. ambassadors, in protest of Goldberg's activities.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 06:14 PM
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14. Ha! I knew you'd be all over this shit.
K&R for your (another) fine explanation of what's really going on in S.A..
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:54 PM
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10. "Twenty Families Are Obstructing Governability" (IPS)
BOLIVIA: "Twenty Families Are Obstructing Governability" - Expert
By Franz Chvez

LA PAZ, Sep 10 (IPS) - ...

It is precisely this avalanche of votes, the greatest proportion won by a president since the restoration of democracy in 1982, that raises questions for sociology Professor Joaqun Saravia, who told IPS that "The government appears insecure, because it has overwhelming social and political support, but this has not translated into real control of the country, which is alarming," he said.

The head of the governing Movement Toward Socialism (MAS) parliamentary group, Csar Navarro, said that democratic changes being promoted by the government are resisted by the elites, who are accustomed to lives of privilege and benefiting from the state ...

Professor Saravia estimates that the opposition movement, made up of business organisations, rightwing parties and pro-business and agribusiness Civic Committees, is led and orchestrated by just 20 families of landowners and industrialists. However, they have the power to obstruct governability for the first indigenous president in the history of Bolivia ...

The opposition has been using radical rightwing youth groups to occupy public offices by force, triggering violent clashes with the security forces guarding the buildings. On Tuesday the airport at Cobija, the departmental capital of Pando, north of La Paz, was still occupied by opposition demonstrators ...

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=43840
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 06:15 PM
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15. This is an important article. Surely glad you've posted it. Thank you. n/t
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:58 PM
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11. Opposition demonstrators cut natural gas supply line in Bolivia (AFP)
3 hours ago
LA PAZ (AFP) Demonstrators clashing with socialist President Evo Morales' government on Wednesday cut off Bolivia's natural gas supply to Argentina, a Chaco company executive told AFP.

"We have had to stop operations at Vuelta Grande" a natural gas plant in Chuquisaca department, which also supplies Brazil in part, Chaco's institutional relations manager Juan Callau said.

Vuelta Grande produces 83 million cubic feet (2.3 million cubic meters) a day which is exported to Argentina (1-1.5 cubic meters) and in varying volumes to Brazil, which consumes a total 31 million cubic meters.

Morales last week charged that rebel governors in the east were mounting a "civil coup" against the government after two weeks of road blocks and other anti-government protests in the relatively prosperous states of Santa Cruz, Chuquisaca and Tarija have begun to affect the local economies there ...

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hgA55GvtXRnaDu3Xf1vDFFyADjwg
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 06:30 PM
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16. Riots and terrorism by the prosperous! Incredible!
And how very Bushite of them!

"Morales last week charged that rebel governors in the east were mounting a 'civil coup' against the government after two weeks of road blocks and other anti-government protests in the relatively prosperous states of Santa Cruz, Chuquisaca and Tarija have begun to affect the local economies there."

"Relatively prosperous" is putting it mildly. They own all the land. The country's major resource resides in their provinces. They are used to treating the indigenous as their slaves. They are a very rich elite minority, who want to rule by fiefdom, and think they have a right to.

The great irony is that Morales has DOUBLED the gas revenues--from $1 billion/yr to $2 billion/yr--by nationalizing the gas, and re-negotiating the contracts--so it's possible for EVERYONE to do well. And still they blow up gas lines! They are crazy.

But, of course, they wouldn't be doing that if they weren't getting booty from USAID and other U.S. budgets, and weren't funded and trained--and probably armed--and avidly stoked up by the U.S.-Bush. Without Bushite warmongering, they would have to see reason--and could more clearly see their own self-interest as well as the country's. In fact, the constitution proposed by the Morales government permits semi-autonomy, but, with Bushite support, they don't want to achieve semi-autonomy on fair terms. They want total autonomy--secession--because the Bushites want fascist/Corpo control of the gas going to Brazil and Argentina, the better to bully those countries.

I hope that this momentous move by Morales--throwing Goldberg out--will bring these assholes to their senses. I think it might well do that--and could also activate Brazil, Argentina and other countries to get the Bushwhacks to back off on all their dirty rotten schemes in South America.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:09 PM
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37. It's a Brooks Brothers franchise! n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 05:19 PM
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44. They're pulling out all the stops: "Eight dead in Bolivia unrest - government"
Eight dead in Bolivia unrest - government
Thu 11 Sep 2008, 20:43 GMT

<-> Text <+> LA PAZ, Sept 11 (Reuters) - At least eight people were killed and 34 wounded in a confrontation between pro- and anti-government groups in Bolivia, a government official said on Thursday, confirming early radio reports

Peasants who support President Evo Morales clashed with anti-Morales protesters who work for the opposition-led local government in the Amazonian province of Pando in northern Bolivia.

Sacha Llorenti, deputy minister of social movements, called the incident a "massacre" orchestrated by an opposition leader in Pando.

http://africa.reuters.com/wire/news/usnN11329550.html
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:59 PM
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12. Bolivian gas line explodes; protesters blamed (AP)
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 06:01 PM by struggle4progress
The Associated Press
Published: September 10, 2008

LA PAZ, Bolivia: Anti-government protesters caused a pipeline explosion in southern Bolivia on Wednesday, forcing a 10 percent cut in natural gas exports to Brazil, the head of the state energy company said.

The official, Santos Ramirez, called the explosion in Tarija province "a terrorist attack." Company officials said protesters had closed a valve, creating pressure that ruptured the pipeline and triggered a fire near the border with Paraguay.

There were no immediate reports of injuries ...

Ramirez said the pipeline blast reduced by 3 million the 30 million cubic meters of gas Bolivia sends Brazil each day ...

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/10/news/Bolivia-Protests.php
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Gillian Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 07:01 PM
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17. Goldberg should have been arrested as a enemy combatant.
Why not?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 10:20 PM
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18. Morales did not say what proof he had that the ambassador was behind the most recent protests.
sounds like our great leaders who pull this "let's blame someone else without any proof" for whatever is going on at the time




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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 10:37 PM
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19. So you want to take the time to inform DU'ers it's your view the people's President of Bolivia
is a liar.

This says more about you than it ever could about him.

Have you ever stirred yourself to learn anything about Bolivia? There's no time like the present to jump in there and find out something about what you're attempting to discuss.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 10:54 PM
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20. so what proof does he have
I doubt you'll be able to give me any but go for it!




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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:57 PM
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32. Go search Amy's site for humanitarian workers that were told to spy
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 03:01 PM by sfexpat2000
for the US as part of their initial briefing in Bolivia at the American Embassy.

Go for it!

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/11/us_embassy_in_bolivia_tells_fulbright
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:55 PM
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46. they were told allegedly to spy on foreigners in Bolivia
how is that fomenting unrest against his government?

maybe I'm just not as bright as the rest of you, but formenting unrest would mean working with opponents of his regime, no?

I don't see the connection between the two


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:41 AM
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47. I don't mean to be snarky. The Bush government has been using
our tax money to destabilize this government. They went so far as to try to get the Peace Corp to spy for them. It's really ugly.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:39 AM
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48. The allegations were so authentic the Peace Corps worker who spoke out and told the world
what he had been instructed to do by the embassy was substantially supported by other Peace Corps workers who came foward and testified the same thing had been expected of them, as well.
American scholar says US Embassy official asked him to spy on Venezuelans, Cubans in Bolivia

The Associated Press
Saturday, February 9, 2008

LA PAZ, Bolivia: A Fulbright scholar said Friday that a security official at the U.S. Embassy asked him to keep tabs on Venezuelan and Cuban workers in Bolivia a request Washington said would violate U.S. policy.

The same embassy official made a similar request to a group of Peace Corps volunteers last year, ABC News reported.

"I was shocked," the scholar, Alex van Schaick, told The Associated Press. "I mean, this man's asking me to spy for the U.S. government."
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/09/america/LA-GEN-Bolivia-US.php


Alleged U.S. Espionage Angers Bolivia
President Labels Embassy Worker "Undesirable" Over Reports He Solicited Intelligence

LA PAZ, Bolivia, Feb. 12, 2008

(AP) President Evo Morales declared a U.S. Embassy security officer to be an "undesirable person" on Monday after reports that the officer asked an American scholar and 30 Peace Corps volunteers to pass along information about Cubans and Venezuelans working in Bolivia.

It was not immediately clear whether Morales intended to seek the expulsion of the official, Vincent Cooper, who according to the U.S. Embassy was recalled to Washington for consultations.

Morales said Cooper is, "for Bolivia, for the government, an undesirable person," and accused him of sending U.S. citizens in Bolivia out as spies. "I feel that this man has not only violated the rights of these citizens, but also violated, offended and attacked Bolivia," the president said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/12/world/main3820200.shtml





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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:44 AM
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49. It's not our country. What business is it of your embassy who the hell is in Bolivia?
The Cuban doctors are there as GUESTS of the Bolivian government, providing medical treatment for people who have never had medical treatment before.

You are expected to respect the sovereignty of a foreign country in which you are staying, (or infesting, in some people's cases) or get the hell out yourself.

Using Peace Corps workers as spies is filthy.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 04:30 AM
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24. There is plenty of documentation of Goldberg meetings with the white separatists,
and U.S. embassy use of USAID and other money to aid the fascist rebels in subverting the government and trying to split up the country. Goldberg has made no secret of his sympathies. He openly supports those fomenting civil war. His behavior has been outrageous. Do your homework, please.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:40 AM
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27. Sounds like faux outrage to me.
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 06:47 AM by Warren Stupidity
How dare the Bolivian government not provide you with the evidence you demand before they kick our meddling ambassador out of their country?

They do not actually have to provide any evidence of why they want an ambassador out, nor would they be wise to do so if that information would reveal their sources. He was not charged with a crime (nor can he be) and no proof is required.

edit: google much? Your faux outrage is declared null and void. Goldberg is a major operative for the disaster capitalism gang. Get a freaking clue.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:04 PM
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35. In other news, Fulvia is dead. n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 11:16 PM
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21. NY Times news "stylist," Simon Romero: mid Growing Unrest, Bolivia Orders U.S. Ambassador to Leave
September 11, 2008
Amid Growing Unrest, Bolivia Orders U.S. Ambassador to Leave
By SIMON ROMERO

~snip~
Bolivian officials said the pipeline disruption could cost the country about $8 million a day in lost revenue and about $100 million to repair, significant amounts in one of South Americas poorest countries.

The protests in Tarija and neighboring departments, or provinces, have intensified since a referendum last month in which more than 67 percent of voters approved of Mr. Moraless presidency. Buoyed by those results, Mr. Morales, an Aymara Indian who is Bolivias first president to identify explicitly with his indigenous ancestry, vowed to press ahead with efforts to redistribute land and petroleum royalties from the moneyed elite in eastern lowlands to the countrys indigenous majority.

In Santa Cruz, Bolivias richest city, protesters this week stormed the offices of the tax agency, state television company and state telecommunications company. The protests have disrupted telephone service out of the eastern lowlands and, of more pressing immediate concern, caused shortages of diesel and other fuels in the region.

So far what they have achieved are major fuel shortages within their own departments, said Kathryn Ledebur, a political analyst in Cochabamba, Bolivia. If they block transport to Argentina and Brazil, there wont be any significant royalties to fight over.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/world/americas/11bolivia.html?_r=1&ref=americas&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 04:27 PM
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41. "News stylist"!
:rofl:

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 04:40 PM
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42. Isn't he a peach, god love him?


Simon!


From BoRev.net:
The Altiplano Ain't Big Enough for the Both of Us

Just two weeks after US embassy staff were caught lying, gunslinging and whoring in Santa Cruz, Evo tells the ambassador to leave his country by sunup. Here's the Simon Romero *version of events, which tragically ignores the part about lying, gunslinging and whoring, even though that's sort of the best part.

* http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/world/americas/11bolivia.html?_r=1&ref=world&oref=slogin

Thursday Morning Update: The LA Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, and AP have all filed their stories this morning. All quote the US gov't saying the accusations of fostering separatist movements them are "baseless." None of them mention that the ambassador was caught, on tape, by Bolivian news crews, sneaking out of a midnight meeting with separatist leaders.

Update 2: So wait,who is this Ambassador Goldberg dude? Oh right, he was: "head of mission (2004-2006) in Kosovo, formerly a province of Serbia until its local government, supported by the ethnic Albanian majority of the population, declared independence in February 2008." He's a separatist specialist. A sepralist.
http://www.borev.net/2008/09/the_altiplano_aint_big_enough.html

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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 11:21 PM
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22. This is fine by me....
I hope this starts a trend. But at the same time I don't want a dime of US money going to Bolivia as aid.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 05:12 AM
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25. So, in order to merit U.S. aid, a country has to put up with the U.S. ambassador fomenting
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 05:13 AM by Peace Patriot
civil war and supporting riots and pipeline blowups? Your second statement doesn't make sense. Our aid should be used for purposes of mutual benefit, and for humanitarian purposes. Why should it be contingent upon U.S. gross interference in the country's internal affairs? Of course that's how the Bushites look at the world. 'Let us bully and exploit you, dictate to your government, use you in our geopolitical war games, fuck your society over, and topple any good governments that you manage to elect, in exchange for booty from our war profiteers and agricultural predators.'

The situation is so unjust, and the Bushwhacks are so wrong, it's hard to fathom why you would punish Bolivia by withdrawing all aid, for kicking this malefactor out of their country. It's as if you identify with the Bushwhacks.

The Bushwhacks have horribly misused our tax dollars (not to mention their grand theft of our tax dollars). If you mean that our tax dollars shouldn't be going to this and every other fascist cabal in South America, that our money shouldn't be misused this way, I agree. But it sounds as if you are offended that the Morales government would object to this misuse. On the other hand, you say you hope it starts a trend. So I don't really get what you are saying. Are you saying that, since the Bushwhacks have bankrupted us, we will have to stop giving aid anyway, and a trend of kicking the U.S. out will provide the excuse? That kind of makes sense.

It's amazing how we can lard military aid, in the billions of dollars, on countries like Colombia, Georgia and Israel, but can't afford to alleviate poverty, even at home. We somehow have plenty of bucks to buy guns, bullets, rifles, rockets, helos and all manner of military equipment, including paying military salaries, and, in the case of the "war on drugs," additionally paying Big Chem for toxic pesticides and spraying equipment, yet dire poverty goes completely unaddressed. And not only that, we are never any more secure for these trillions of dollars in expenses--we are much more insecure--and the cocaine just keeps flowing out of Colombia onto our streets.

Odd, huh? I'd be for our aid doing some good in the world--if we still have anything to give, after the Bushfucks and their Corpos are done with us. And it would NO STRINGS aid. It would be mutual benefit (and I don't mean Corpo benefit) and humanitarian aid. But that is NOT what is happening now. 'Our' aid (our tax dollars, Bushite purposes) is so far gone to corruption and wrongful purposes that it is, in many cases, a positive menace to the people whom the Bushites, utterly hypocritically, claim to be benefiting. The use of USAID funds in South America is a good example--going to RIGHTWING political groups, thugs and terrorists, who, if they re-gained power, would be throwing leftists out of airplanes and piling up the 'disappeared' in mass graves. Our tax money is contributing to every bad cause in South America! It is appalling.

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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:49 AM
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28. No, we just need to start handling the needs at home....
And this is as good a reason as any. I still haven't seen conclusive evidence either way showing the ambassador did anything wrong besides a "meeting." I think its Bolivia's right though to expel the ambassador, but its ours to eliminate any aid.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:08 PM
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36. See #34. If we pulled "aid" from Bolivia and left them alone
it's likely that Evo would declare a national holiday and with good reason.

We're not there to "aid" the people of Bolivia. The US government is there to make sure Bush cronies rip them off as easily as possible.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:21 AM
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26. A great deal of U.S. taxpayers' required contributions has been used in genocidal programs
against all of Latin America, and clearly against the indigenous Bolivian people. You really need to spend some time learning about the subject you attempt to discuss with so much opinion, not knowledge.

So many Americans, at some point in their adulthood, start realizing they have been dreadfully misinformed about U.S. policy, most particularly the policy of U.S. idiot homicidal Republican Presidents who view Latin America as their "backyard" and the people as 2nd class inferiors, born to be exploited by U.S. multinationals.

You're going to be left behind while everyone else has been discussing subjects from a foothold in reality, while you will never even slightly grasp the subject if you don't get busy and do your research. Books are available, if you can spare the time from the message board, and god knows so much is available to you on what your pResident calls the "internetS".

How Richard M. Nixon spent American taxpayers' hard-earned money:
COLONEL HUGO BANZER
President of Bolivia
In 1970, in Bolivia, when then-President Juan Jose Torres nationalized Gulf Oil properties and tin mines owned by US interests, and tried to establish friendly relations with Cuba and the Soviet Union, he was playing with fire. The coup to overthrow Torres, led by US-trained officer and Gulf Oil beneficiary Hugo Banzer, had direct support from Washington. When Banzer's forces had a breakdown in radio communications, US Air Force radio was placed at their disposal. Once in power, Banzer began a reign of terror. Schools were shut down as hotbeds of political subversive activity. Within two years, 2,000 people were arrested and tortured without trial. As in Paraguay, Argentina and Brazil, the native Indians were ordered off their land and deprived of tribal identity. Tens-of-thousands of white South Africans were enticed to immigrate with promises of the land stolen from the Indians, with a goal of creating a white Bolivia. When Catholic clergy tried to aid the Indians, the regime, with CIA help, launched terrorist attacks against them, and this "Banzer Plan" became a model for similar anti-Catholic actions throughout Latin America.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/US_ThirdWorld/dictators.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Banzer came back after the info. above was published, to serve as the Bolivian President in the 1990's, during which time he arranged for the Bush-connected Bechtel company to privatize Bolivia's water, raise the price of water until it was tearing the majority of citizens' daily lives apart struggling so hard to be able to buy water for their most meager needs, then Bechtel started trying to charge them for any rainwater they could try to collect in barrels on their land, to drink. Bechtel claimed to own the rain by then.

When this filthy exploitation broke the people's backs, they had no alternative but to pour into the streets to protest, at which time School of the Americas-trained snipers picked them off. More expert use of U.S. taxpayers' hard-earned dollars.

Someone won that confrontation, which took human lives, lives surrendered trying to protect against absolute evil greed by Bechtel. Bechtel LEFT. They are GONE. Your side LOST.

Now you're attempting to claim Evo Morales is lying, has so much time on his hands, is so innately dishonest he's inventing facts. That would make him a Republican. You are so wildly off base, and if you took the time to do the most basic research you'd know why everyone knows how wrong you are.

Bush's Defense Department under Rumsfeld knew Morales was going to be elected in a landslide and went behind the back of the sitting Bolivian President prior to the election to confer with top officers in the Bolivian military, and arrange to spirit out missiles, stripping them out of the Bolivian defense capacity, and took them to an airbase in Texas. From the Washington Post:
Bolivia's Defense Chiefs Ousted in Missile Scandal
Reuters
Wednesday, January 18, 2006; Page A11

LA PAZ, Bolivia, Jan. 18 -- A scandal in Bolivia over surface-to-air missiles prompted the defense minister's resignation and the army chief's dismissal Tuesday, plunging the military into a political crisis days before socialist president-elect Evo Morales is to be sworn into office.

The outgoing interim president, Eduardo Rodriguez, said he had accepted the resignation of Defense Minister Gonzalo Mendez, and fired Gen. Marcelo Antezana over apparent irregularities in the destruction in the United States of a batch of Chinese-made missiles in October.

"I have relieved the commander of the army of his duties and accepted the defense minister's resignation," Rodriguez told reporters after a cabinet meeting Tuesday.

At the height of campaigning for last month's presidential elections, Morales denounced the destruction of the 28 to 30 Chinese HN-5 shoulder-fired missiles, the only arms of their kind in the military's arsenal.

Antezana, the army chief, told reporters that Washington initiated the drive to destroy the missiles because it feared Morales would win the presidency of the South American country.
More:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/18/AR2006011800124.html

Also:
23 December 2005
Evo Morales faces his first problem: what happened to Bolivia's air defence missiles?
President-Elect Evo Morales of Bolivia met the outgoing President Eduardo Rodriguez to discuss the handover of power yesterday. However, the new President faces a problem with the USA even before taking office. Put simply, what happened to Bolivia's air-defence missiles?

The country had 28 or 30 Chinese built HN-SA hand-held anti-aircraft missiles that seem to have vanished from the military's arsenal. By all accounts they were stolen by the American Embassy with the conivence of Bolivian military officers, during May or June of this year. It is reported that they were taken aboard an unmarked C-130 transport aircraft and removed from the country.

When Evo Morales first made these allegations last month, the Bolivian army claimed that the missiles had been disposed of as part of an "annual disposal of obsolete equipment," and the army also claimed that the weapons were still in the country. However, army reports which were released this month show that the missiles, which cost Bolivia about 1,000,000, were well-maintained and had ten more years of service left in them.
More:
http://www.the-exile.info/2005_12_01_archive.html

Also:
Bolivian army chief fired over missile flap
Chinese-made, shoulder-fired weapons were sent to U.S. for destruction

MSNBC News Services
updated 8:49 a.m. CT, Wed., Jan. 18, 2006
LA PAZ, Bolivia - Outgoing President Eduardo Rodriguez fired Bolivias army chief on Tuesday over his decision to have 28 Chinese shoulder-launched missiles destroyed in the United States.

Gen. Marcelo Antezana later appeared on Bolivian television to say Rodriguez had made a bad interpretation of his role in the October destruction of the missiles, which led to accusations of treason by Evo Morales, then a presidential candidate.

Morales who later won elections in December revealed the destruction of the missiles by the United States and said it had left Bolivia with almost no air defense.

~snip~
On Tuesday, government news agency ABI reported that Rodriguez would make a formal inquiry with the U.S. Embassy to investigate their role in the matter.
More:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10774121/

More of your pResident's handiwork:
Bush Spending U.S. Tax Dollars to Foment Unrest in Bolivia
By Benjamin Dangl, The Progressive. Posted March 10, 2008.

Documents show that Washington is backing Right-wing opposition to Bolivia's democratic reforms.

~snip~
From the Bush Administration's perspective, that turns out to mean Morales's opponents. Declassified documents and interviews on the ground in Bolivia prove that the Bush Administration is using U.S. taxpayers' money to undermine the Morales government and coopt the country's dynamic social movements--just as it has tried to do recently in Venezuela and traditionally throughout Latin America.

Much of that money is going through the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). In July 2002, a declassified message from the U.S. embassy in Bolivia to Washington included the following message: "A planned USAID political party reform project aims at implementing an existing Bolivian law that would . . . over the long run, help build moderate, pro-democracy political parties that can serve as a counterweight to the radical MAS or its successors." MAS refers to Morales's party, which, in English, stands for Movement Toward Socialism.

Morales won the presidency in December 2005 with 54 percent of the vote, but five regional governments went to rightwing politicians. After Morales's victory, USAID, through its Office of Transition Initiatives, decided "to provide support to fledgling regional governments," USAID documents reveal.

Throughout 2006, four of these five resource-rich lowland departments pushed for greater autonomy from the Morales-led central government, often threatening to secede from the nation. U.S. funds have emboldened them, with the Office of Transition Initiatives funneling "116 grants for $4,451,249 to help departmental governments operate more strategically," the documents state.

"USAID helps with the process of decentralization," says Jose Carvallo, a press spokesperson for the main rightwing opposition political party, Democratic and Social Power. "They help with improving democracy in Bolivia through seminars and courses to discuss issues of autonomy."

"The U.S. Embassy is helping this opposition," agrees Raul Prada, who works for Morales's party. Prada is sitting down in a crowded La Paz cafe and eating ice cream. His upper lip is black and blue from a beating he received at the hands of Morales's opponents while Prada was working on the new constitutional assembly. "The ice cream is to lessen the swelling," he explains. The Morales government organized this constitutional assembly to redistribute wealth from natural resources and guarantee broader access to education, land, water, gas, electricity, and health care for the country's poor majority. I had seen Prada in the early days of the Morales administration. He was wearing an indigenous wiphala flag pin and happily chewing coca leaves in his government office. This time, he wasn't as hopeful. He took another scoop of ice cream and continued: "USAID is in Santa Cruz and other departments to help fund and strengthen the infrastructure of the rightwing governors."

In August 2007, Morales told a diplomatic gathering in La Paz, "I cannot understand how some ambassadors dedicate themselves to politics, and not diplomacy, in our country. . . . That is not called cooperation. That is called conspiracy." Bolivian Vice President Alvaro Garcia Linera said that the U.S. Embassy was funding the government's political opponents in an effort to develop "ideological and political resistance." One example is USAID's financing of Juan Carlos Urenda, an adviser to the rightwing Civic Committee, and author of the Autonomy Statute, a plan for Santa Cruz's secession from Bolivia.
More:
http://www.alternet.org/audits/77572/
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:52 AM
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29. A bunch of unsubstantiated claims and accusations?
All could be true. None could be true. When I was traveling down there, nothing seemed black and white. How is the Spanish coming?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:40 AM
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30. The Bushwhacks, in a way, did Morales a favor by stealing those missiles--
thus alerting him to the U.S.-Bush operatives and traitors in the Bolivian military, right off the bat. They may have done a similar favor with the U.S./Colombia raid on the FARC in Ecuador, recently. Rafael Correa soon afterward purged his military of Bush spies and operatives. And, of course, the failed coup attempt in Venezuela, back in 2002, alerted Chavez to the Bushwhacks' intentions and to the nature of the opposition, and also apprised him of the essential loyalty of the military (except for a few traitorous commanders).

All very instructive. I've often been tempted to call the Bushites in South America "the Keystone Kops of the Hemisphere," or some such--for their utter incompetence at killing leftists and toppling democracies--but I haven't done so, due to the horrors they have inflicted on people (including union leaders and others in Colombia). But their activities really do merit ridicule, at times. (www.BoRev.net is very good at it!) When the leftist president of Bolivia greets the newly elected leftist president of Paraguay, with the words, "Welcome to the Axis of Evil," you know that things are not going well for our Bushwhacks.

That's probably what our Democrats should be doing--laughing them out of the White House.

I can't exactly say that they are a joke. Leaders who slaughter 100,000 innocent people to get their oil are not really all that funny. But some of the things they've done have been...mindbogglingly stupid. I mean, all you can do is laugh. (The Bushite "suitcase full of money" caper out of Miami comes to mind.) And, no matter what they do, more leftists get elected.

Their continued lies about Chavez are worrisome--if ludicrous--because, why would they be bothering to keep up this psyops campaign, if they were not still planning to grab the oil, whatever way they can (for instance, with this latest strategy of secession)? They will blow that as well, one imagines. And I can't say I'm sorry for their incompetence. Thank God for it! But they still have enormous fire power--including the power to destroy all life on earth--at their fingertips. It's nerve-wracking (and maybe is meant to be) to feel that a sort of fascist "Monty Python" is running our government. You can't help but laugh at their crazy-ass skits, but they've got their finger on The Bomb and they blow up actual people!

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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:48 PM
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31. Sounds like Goldilocks was using his office for a base of operations to
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 02:49 PM by happydreams
subvert the Morales administration.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:58 PM
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33. You bet. Go, Evo!
:kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:03 PM
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34. Report: US funding opposition groups in Bolivia -- The Progressive
The US embassy in Bolivia has been using American taxpayer money to help fund opposition groups, according to an article in The Progressive magazine. We speak with journalist Benjamin Dangl, who broke the story.

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/11/report_us_funding_opposition_groups_in
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:32 PM
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38. Evo does what he must do. He has done the right thing! -nt
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 04:05 PM
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39. Kicking
and a thank-you for the information! From all of you knowledgeable posters!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 04:26 PM
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40. US warns of damaged relations with Bolivia over the expulsion of its diplomat
US warns of damaged relations with Bolivia over the expulsion of its diplomat

(RTTNews) - Thursday, US State Department warned Bolivian government of the consequences of expelling its Ambassador over his alleged support to opposition groups in five provinces seeking autonomy from La Paz.

Bolivian President Evo Morales asked US Ambassador Philip Goldberg to leave the country on Wednesday.

US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack termed the Bolivian government's action a "grave error," which has "seriously damaged" its relations with Washington.

McCormack expressed regret over the incident, regardless of the fact that United States gives more development aid to Bolivia than any other country, serves as Bolivia's largest export market, and is a major provider of counter-narcotics assistance.

Meanwhile, three people died and a dozen others were injured Thursday in clashes between peasants loyal to Morales and supporters of the opposition governor in Pando province.

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/MarketSensitiveNews.aspx?Node=B3

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 05:04 PM
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43. Bush boots Bolivia's ambassador: U.S. Ousts Bolivian Ambassador in Tit-for-Tat With Morales
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 05:04 PM by Judi Lynn
U.S. Ousts Bolivian Ambassador in Tit-for-Tat With Morales

By Viola Gienger

Sept. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. expelled Bolivian Ambassador Gustavo Guzman today, a day after Bolivia's President Evo Morales ordered the U.S. ambassador out of La Paz.

``In response to the unwarranted action and in accordance with the Vienna Convention, we have officially informed the government of Bolivia of our decision to declare Ambassador Gustavo Guzman persona non grata,'' said Heide Bronke, a spokeswoman for the U.S. State Department.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=apkcQAUxeAyY&refer=worldwide

(Yeah, as if that's appropriate. Since when did Bolivia's ambassador foment rebellion in this country?)
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 05:46 PM
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45. Knock 'em dead, Evo!
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