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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:24 PM Original message |
Georgia launches offensive against South Ossetia |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. From the Financial Times |
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rcsl1998 (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
99. Look At Initial Reporting Prior To Bush - McSame Spin... |
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Aqaba (781 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:36 AM Response to Original message |
2. Heavy fighting in South Ossetia (video at link) |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Russia has been pissed at Geogia since the Chechnyan Wars... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
4. Georgian troops, warplanes, pound separatists |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Yep. Those are the key words. Good catch. |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. How long until Russian tanks roll into Geogia? |
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woundedkarma (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. According to msnbc's front page |
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frankieT (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I agree |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Russians moving in... Air base near Tblisi bombed according to BBC |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. CNN just reported US troops are training Georgian troops in that area |
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nomaco-10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. They had just left a few days ago. n/t |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. thanks, I didn't hear that part...said the Pentagon was looking into |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Oh, fuck. You're making me turn-on the TV now. I *was* going to listen to The Stephcast on my iPod. |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. CNN: US has counted heads and says that the 130 US military & civilian personnel has been accounted |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
74. Training troops |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Richard Holbrook on BBC said that he had warned about this and Putin |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
45. Oh wondeful |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
41. Energy Transit = BTC Pipeline |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Yep. BTC is 'down' 'Fire' on Wednesday. |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
10. Putin Says `War Has Started,' Georgia Claims Invasion (Update1) |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Russia Threatens Retaliation After Georgia Says It Fired on Planes |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #11 |
54. Been there done that |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 06:40 AM Response to Reply #54 |
95. IIRC, that is written into the Russian Constitution |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
13. What should the U.S.'s response be? |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. U.S. Response? |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
55. ironically, unlike 9-11, bush inaction will be best for everyone |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 06:53 AM Response to Reply #55 |
88. If they stop serving food at the crisis meetings, Bush will stop attending. n/t |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Defending democracy ? |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Should I go fill my gastank now? n/t |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Well, that kind of answers my question. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
49. if there is US military involved, YES |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
72. Defending democracy = Defending pipelines (n/t) |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Based on past performance... |
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CrazyDude (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
47. Nothing ... Or we can just bomb the shit out of Russia, Georgia, and while we're at it Alabama |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
90. The serious answer. |
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nomaco-10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
18. Russians in Georgia, Chinese Islamists threatening.... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
50. religion working for the oil companies |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
22. Conveniently timed for the start of the Olympics |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
26. Russian tanks enter South Ossetia |
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Deny and Shred (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:23 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Russian response to Kosovo? |
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blue52power (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. Russian response to Kosovo? Yes |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
28. Georgia: Russian Jets Bomb Air Base by Tbilisi |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:26 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Looks like Russia is launching a full-scale invasion to topple the government |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
30. Russia's Lavrov: S.Ossetia "ethnic cleansing" reports |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Georgia: Russia bombing Georgian villages |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
31. Sad, isn't it, how now when the U.S. issues a statement calling for restraint, it is laughable? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. US wouldn't allow that language to be put in to the UN |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. When Russia is involved we cant do much more I suppose |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. How can the U.S. criticize Russia for being imperialist, when it has them beaten in spades. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #31 |
52. Georgia was pulling out its troops from Iraq |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
34. F**king Russians. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
78. What about national sovereignity? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #78 |
89. The Ossetian sepratists are Russian patsies, THAT'S the difference. n/t. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 06:56 AM Response to Reply #89 |
96. So that justifies genocide against Ossetians? |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
35. Reuters blog: Was South Ossetia’s fate sealed in Kosovo? |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
36. Russia otherwise a bit distracted now? Don't tell Cheney. |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
37. Russia invades Georgia? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
38. Looks like Putin and his right hand man.... |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 07:00 AM Response to Reply #38 |
97. Georgia IS the aggressor in this one |
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Doctor Cynic (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
40. In AD 2008, war was beginning. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
75. What Happen? |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #75 |
94. Main screen turn on! nt |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
42. Georgia-Ossetia conflict on brink of full war: OSCE |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
44. ICRC seeks access in S.Ossetia as violence grows |
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nomaco-10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
48. This could be over in hours or days OR.... |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. The reason why the world is in a precarious state is because of who is at the helm of the U.S. |
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nomaco-10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I completely agree, but China, Russia and Israel |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #51 |
79. Bush doesn't help matters; but he's not responsible for EVERYTHING bad in the world. |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
57. Russian troops enter South Ossetia after Georgia offensive |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. The situation is rapidly deteriorating. Read that last paragraph. |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Yes, this is very serious stuff, and deserves our notice. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. You cited the AFP story; I picked up the Beeb. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Hope everything works out for them. |
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fryguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. I used to travel to Tbilisi for work often |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. My barber is from Georgia. I will see her on Saturday. |
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Finite (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. And so it continues.. |
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chatnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Agents provocateurs |
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The Liberal Thinker (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. I wonder how many idiots are going to think the Russians are attacking the State of Georgia. |
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Finite (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. hahaha |
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chatnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Georgia 'under attack' as Russian tanks roll in |
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bushmeister0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. US "trainers" not involved . . . yet. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. Our of wars like this, bigger things had followed in the past. nt |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
71. The Georgians are Junior's buddies. |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
73. Russia has also had a long-standing beef with Georgia.... |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Georgia still sitting on Soviet nukes? |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Thorough knowledge of Russian tactics and training as well... |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. A fast read here |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I agree... |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Hmm |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Stratfor underestimates Russian insecurity. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 07:07 AM Response to Reply #76 |
98. No, Georgia has no nukes, the Russians collected them all |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #73 |
91. It's reciprocal. |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
80. The great oil bubble has burst ( well...until this little Tiff in Georgia ? ) |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
84. Armed Cossacks pour in to fight Georgians |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Somehow I expected to see pictures of men on horses. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. "If I didn't have three children I'd have gone" |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Freepers are everytwhere. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. I'm afraid you're right. |
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