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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 10:26 PM
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Democrats May Kick Out Joe Lieberman If He Addresses The Republican National Convention
Source: Huffington Post


Robert Novak reports that Democrats consider Joe Lieberman's planned address at the GOP Convention in September the "last straw" from their colleague from Connecticut:

Despite assurances to the contrary from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Democratic insiders are certain Sen. Joseph Lieberman next year will be kicked out of the party's caucus and lose his Senate chairmanship if he addresses the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., as planned.

Lieberman's Democratic colleagues willing to accept his support of Sen. John McCain for president consider speaking to the GOP convention as the last straw. Lieberman was re-elected from Connecticut as an independent in 2006 after losing the Democratic nomination because of his support for the Iraq war.

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Robert Greenwald and Brave New Films have launched a petition drive that would have Democrats strip Lieberman of his committee assignments...


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/12/democrats-may-kick-out-jo_n_112351.html
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 10:30 PM
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1. Recommended.
:thumbsup:
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:03 PM
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104. What my Dog Thinks of Joe
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:30 PM
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151. Cherish that dog forever! eom
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mikeargo Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 10:31 PM
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2. About damn time
Get lost, Joe
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 10:40 PM
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That's what I was going to post.
:thumbsup:
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 10:41 PM
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4. K&R.
Just think. Eight years ago, he was Al Gore's VP. If Shrub hadn't been "selected" by the Supreme Court and Gore had won re-election in 2004, most likely Lieberman would be our nominee now.

Pretty messed up.
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rontun Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 04:54 AM
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34. I'm willing to bet we wouldn't be in this insane war
had Gore been in office, so Lieberman would not have developed such an idiotic fondness for war. However, knowing what I now know about Lieberman, I'm fiercely relieved that he's not our candidate and I hope they kick his a** to the curb.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 02:12 PM
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112. I don't think so
in Joe's world, the most important thing is Israel. He's for anything he thinks will be favorable for it (her? them?).
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #112
155. Got *any* proof, or just talking out your ass?
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #112
161. So who does he represent.....
the folks in Connecticut, or the folks in Israel.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #161
166. He's often referred to
as the Senator from Israel.

He certainly doesn't represent us in Connecticut.
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nachoproblem Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #34
137. Lieberman believes the Democratic party "lost its way"
when LBJ did not seek re-election because of Vietnam. He has dedicated his career to trying to "reform" it from within, because his idiotic fondness for war is nothing new. He is and always has been a Chicken Hawk.

I'm just pointing this out because I don't want anybody giving him too much credit, ever.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:52 AM
Response to Reply #4
154. He would be running for RE-Election
I am convinced Gore would have been assassinated if he had taken office in 2000.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:34 AM
Response to Reply #2
35. Yeah. What took them so long?
I realize that Democratic congresscritters are cowards...



"We'll do anything for our brave War President!"

...but someone who completely goes against his party? That's a new low.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:37 PM
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146. What disturbs me is
Edited on Sun Jul-13-08 09:38 PM by rpannier
"may"

Why 'may'?

If he addresses -- he's out.

Iy should be that simple.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #146
169. What disturbs me is that a number of top Democrats supported him as an Independent
against a Democrat, Lamont. :wtf:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 10:40 PM
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3. That's a good sign for a couple of reasons
First of all it shows they have confidence that they will gain a sizeable majority of senate seats in the November elections.

And secondly, it demonstrates that someone among the Democratic senate membership (definitely not harry reid) has finally begun to grow a pair.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:52 PM
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122. It sure would be nice to see some spine.
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #122
139. For a change...
but not holding my breath.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 10:43 PM
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5. Considering how spineless this Congress has been so far...
I will not be holding my breath, waiting for this to happen.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #5
16. ...they'll probably make him Majority Leader!
:puke:

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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 10:44 PM
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6. works for me
Make him what he is already. He's not fooling anyone.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 10:58 PM
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7. Lieberman is the lowest form of life
I can't despise him enough
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #7
18. Why do you hate Jews?
:sarcasm: <-- but, still, that's how Holy Joe and his supporters will spin it...

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 06:40 AM
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #18
81. You are the one with tendacies.
Calling him "Holy Joe" and bringing up his religion isn't nessasary.

All one has to do to call him a traitor to his party.

Unless.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #81
87. "Holy Joe" is Lieberman's DU nickname
We're not talking about his religion, usually.

However! I can see where our man is coming from: the GOP knows we are highly accepting of all religions, so they'll claim any anti-Lieberman remark is an antisemitic attack. In this case it isn't; Joseph Lieberman has gone to the Republican side so much, we can't even call the man a DINO. Nor can we call him a traitor to the party. He's a Republican. There is no doubt in anyone's mind he's a Republican, and he needs to be stripped of any vestiges of attachment to the Democratic Party as soon as possible.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #81
156. Didn't you get the memo?
The new in thing is claiming you are a victim of being wrongly accused of being an anti-Semite before it happens!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:02 PM
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8. kick that POS to the curb and good riddance
he has been an albatross around the necks of all of us

the strange little bible thumping warmongering piece of shit needs to go straight to the hell that he has visited upon us all
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:08 PM
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9. If they haven't kicked his ass out now over his past electoral troubles
(going independent when Democratic voters didn't re-nominate him) and publicly fellating McCain at every opportunity, why should they kick him out now? I mean, didn't he LEAVE the party by going independent? All this other stuff, and that wasn't enough to get him kicked out!?
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:56 AM
Response to Reply #9
28. You are right. How could he have multiple political designations?
I know a possible answer might be that the likes of pelosi and other turncoats of our party are still buddy buddy with him. In other words, all traitors stick together.
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #28
79. He does vote with the Dems.
On the lesser issues. JUST often enought to black mail them into keeping him on the committee. Ad another couple of progressive Dems & he will be out of there!
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #9
84. He caucuses with the Dems, which means, along with Sanders, the Dems have the majority
which gives them the committee chairs.

After November, they won't need him.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #84
110. I'm joining Sanders party
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:08 PM
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10. He shoould have been stripped of any status long ago...
Lieberman has become an embarrasment, even more of an embarassment than Novak as a Journalist.

Novak should have another bottle of gin and hit the sack.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:09 PM
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11. Know this:
If they do, Joe will spend the rest of his term painting Democrats as not being friends of Israel.

You can be sure that his motivation in all of this is that he sees Obama as a young whipper-snapper and a few other things less savory(and I will not stoop to mentioning them) who is unworthy. The Silly Little Man has become bitter and venal.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. And he looks like he smells bad.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #11
19. I don't think it has anything to do with Obama...
I'm pretty sure any Democratic nominee would be considered "too liberal" by Holy Joe. The fact is, he's been out-of-step with even the "centrist" branch of the Democratic Party for years -- it's almost as if he's only realized it himself just now.

But, yes, I'm sure he (and the few backers he has left) will spin this as a case of "liberal anti-Semitism." For, you see, if you dislike Joe Lieberman, it can only be because you dislike an entire religion and/or ethnic group, right? :eyes:

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:17 AM
Response to Reply #11
26. Every Jewish person I know sees right through that nonsense.
I don't think that Lieberman will be reelected. He'll retire in disgrace and fade mercifully from everyone's memory, just another petty politician.
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Caradoc Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:07 AM
Response to Reply #26
39. Retire?
Retire in disgrace? Worse...he'll become a lobbyist.
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #26
80. Maybe he'll run for the Israeli Parliment.
He is a dual citizen after all!
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #80
92. No he isn't,.
He was born in America like his parents before him. And their parents came from Poland, not Israel, anyway.

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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #92
135. Many American citizens that were born here have become Israeli citizens also ...
Holy Joe is one of them; many NeoCons carry this dual citizenship.

I will research a link.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #135
147. he doesn't have dual citizenship
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #135
157. Research all you like...
...hit all the hate sites and you will find what you need. Barring that, you will find Lieberman is not a dual citizen, nor are there any dual Israeli citizens in Congress. A bunch of Jews, yes.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #11
85. I hate Joe too but you are wrong.
He has been shilling for McSame 24/7 but does not spend his day talking about Israel.

As a Jew I find support for Israel where Obama comes from. That is a just peace in the area that favors both sides.

It is the only workable peace and it is one that McSame doesn't offer.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #85
111. Well, I seem to remember he has intimated that...
Although I cannot give you a cite. It's hell getting old. ;-)

That said, I predict he will, especially if the dems cut him off at the knees. He has proved that he is a bitter man who needs his revenge, and he will seek it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #11
103. Let him...lieman needs to
dig himself deeper.
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NewEnglandGirl Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:37 PM
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12. Is he really going to
address the Republican convention???? I thought that was a joke. I should know better. :wtf: :crazy: He belongs there anyway.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:42 PM
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13. May? MAY?
This should have happened already!!! I'm not impressed by "May."

The first thing that came to my mind when I saw this (well, ok ... the second ... or maybe third) was this line from Hamlet:

"Seems, madam? Nay, it is. I know not "seems."

get back to me when it "is"
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:36 AM
Response to Reply #13
57. That was the first word I thought too MAY?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #13
113. "may" just says it ALL.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #13
133. Ridiculous isnt it?

Quite beyond ridiculous some time ago, in fact.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:49 PM
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14. The Connecticut Boll Weevil


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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:00 AM
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17. The Republicans won't want him either. He'll be powerless
The Republicans hate McCain now because he sponsored the bill for carbon caps. They also know McCain is a traitor so they'll never trust him.

When McCain collapses, the net left will have won.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:11 AM
Response to Reply #17
20. Yep...
Remind me: just how has Zell Miller's political career been going the past four years? :evilgrin:

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DAMANgoldberg Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:34 AM
Response to Reply #20
22. to be fair...
his National political career was over before 2004 anyway.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:56 AM
Response to Reply #20
24. I was about to say...
Joe and Zell can get a room together....share expenses...
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:12 AM
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21. Sorry. I can't believe much of what NoFacts says and
I no longer believe enough Dems have the spine to kick him out. He deserves to be out of it, but they are too busy voting for Bushie stuff to notice
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #21
102. This.
This is old, but if Novak said the sky was blue, I'd have to go outside and check.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:42 AM
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23. Loooooooooong Overdue

I guess they feel they need more of a cushion to do it - - and it sure looks like they're going to get that cushion. Then Lieberman can decline to run for reelection and we'll FINALLY be rid of his pathetic ass.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:04 AM
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25. No, just consider him invisible. Ignore him. No mention. Ever. Joe who?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:42 AM
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27. He should not even be allowed NEAR the Democratic convention /nt
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 02:33 AM
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29. Uhm, why don't they kick him out NOW?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:38 AM
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31. because he gives us the majority (51) which includes bernie sanders
we lose the "majority" and guess who is in charge of committees again? (not that we're making much hay while the sun shines--so to speak)
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:14 AM
Response to Reply #31
41. Not true.
The rules were changed after 06. The committee chairs will remain in the Dems hands till 09.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #41
100. well, jeez, if that's true and the rules were changed--then what the fuck
is everyone waiting for?? he should have been kicked down a long time ago!
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #31
88. Whatever. Dems have displayed little to no backbone even with a slim majority.

Bush is a bully, plain and simple. Somebody needs to stand up to him. Putting Lieberman in a drawer would be a good first step.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:22 AM
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30. That'll be right after Pelosi
takes impeachment off the table. They'll talk and talk and huff and puff and then won't do it. But they'll dutifully give Bush enough votes to pass anything he wants.
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SomeGuyInEagan Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:45 AM
Response to Reply #30
60. Yup. Hollow, gutless words.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 04:24 AM
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32. SOMEbody Please......
Stick a fork in Lieberman. He is done. Please kick that POS to the curb. I hate his face almost as much as Smirk Boy.
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Karl_Bonner_1982 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 04:36 AM
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33. You know, maybe we should give Lieberman a break...
Why does every politician either have to be totally loyal to one "side" or the other? There are, believe it or not, people called "centrists" out there. Now some of us may think of Lieberman as more conservative than centrist, but that's for him to decide. On issues other than the Iraq War he's no GOP rubberstamp.

If the two parties alienate all the Liebermans and Chafees of the world, we may very well see a rise in viable Independent candidates, and who knows, that may be a good thing. A strong independent with a favorable mix of centrist, leftist, and libertarian ideas might be just the ticket.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:58 AM
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47. Well, then, he should be an independent
Which is how he ran, and if he wants to be that way, we're more than happy to release him from the Democratic party and let him be so. We've only hung on because he gives us a putative majority.

I have no problem with independents, and though I don't Holy Joe myself, if he wants to be an indie, more power to him, but if you're going to be a declared member of the Democratic party, then you don't give "aid and comfort" to the enemy at election time. His usefulness is done - he wants to be an independent, let him, but he can't call himself a Democrat.
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canucksawbones Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:15 AM
Response to Reply #33
49. the fact that he is fully supporting
McSame is the problem. So it's not just the War Issue. There are other democrats that are centrist, but they are fully behind the democratic presumptive candidate.

GK
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #33
51. Joe really stuck it to the voters of CT, didn't he?
Joe is all about Joe, and to hell with everyone else.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #51
136. Yup. That's the bottom line. Regardless of particular positions
he's a man whose only real interest is in himself.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:21 AM
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53. To be an independent is fine
but that means neither party has to be forced to have any Independent caucus with them. To be allowed to caucus and to hold any leadership position on any committee is a privilege I believe should be reserved for party members. Just mho.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:27 AM
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55. Joe caucuses with the Dems.
Strategy is discussed there. There is a real likelihood that he could be sharing that strategy with the repukes. He is also betraying the party that has given him much support over the years, a lot of that financial.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:46 PM
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119. This has been my concern about him too.
I think he's a VERY likely "double agent"-- why else would the Repubs put up with him? He gives US the majority, what is he giving THEM?

I hope he's booted first thing on November 5th. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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Maryland Liberal Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:35 AM
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56. This sends out 2 Very BAD messages
1. We Democrats dont care about independants
2. Our party is more important than our country
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:30 AM
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77. You, and the poster at #33 that you're responding to, are both missing a key point.
Joe holds a very important committee chairmanship -- and the way the Senate works is that the MAJORITY party holds the chairmanship of all Senate committees. Party affiliation IS important because of how the system is set up.

Independant or third party elected officials are free to choose with whom they will caucus; but only the majority party can choose the chairs of the various Senate committees.

If the Dems gain a greater Senate majority next election, there will be no need for them to continue to be held hostage by non-Democrat Joe Liberman. He can be as independant as he wants to be, but he'll have no grounds to expect to hold any position of power in a Dem majority-controlled Senate.

sw
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:11 PM
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97. How was Chafee "alienated"?
He lost, fair and square, to a better candidate. Other than that, Democrats have admired his stance on certain issues. Lieberman's problem is he clearly has nothing but contempt for memebers of his "own party", sneering and rejecting everything they say.

And I'd still take the GOP Lincoln Chafee over the supposed "Democrat" LIEberman any day.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:16 PM
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129. He's an Opportunist, Not an Independent

Just looking out for himself. And it's his support of McCoot that is the last straw.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:43 AM
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36. "May" huh?
:rofl:

Yeah right!
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nradisic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 06:45 AM
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38. What trhe fuck took so long?
This bum should have been out on the street years ago.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:10 AM
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40. Why wait
Kick him out now and make the gesture to the nation what a two timing bastard he really is.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:15 AM
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42. Jesus, Dems, now don't go do anything rash
:D
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:15 AM
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43. Well if Robert Novack says it...
;)

Why the hell is he even considered a "Democratic colleague" when he's an independent, undermined a Democratic senatorial candidate in Connecticut, and is not supporting the Democratic candidate for POTUS? No-brainer to me.
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:21 AM
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44. good. it's about time. finally showing a bit of spine??
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:42 AM
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45. As well they should

This guy's been giving us the finger for years.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:58 AM
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46. Zell Miller and now Joe Lieberman
Two sides of the same coin. What a jerk he is to do something like that. When you think about it, Lieberman is the perfect republican - whiny and petulant.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:13 AM
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48. I'm surprised it took this long
I don't think the open threat of losing his chairmanship would deter Holy Joe from addressing the repukes. The fact that it is being openly talked about now seems to indicate that the Dems don't feel that things can get any worse for them.

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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:51 PM
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121. One bright spot in this is I can't believe that the Republican base
will really care about what the second half of the team they dubbed "Sore Loserman" has to say. Unless he gets up there and says he's "seen the light" and is converting to both the Republican party AND Christianity, I'll bet he'll go over like a lead balloon.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:18 AM
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50. Yank the rug out from under him when he isn't looking.
Blindsiding him would be the best plan - he deserves nothing less.

Watching him fall down a flight of political stairs would be real sweet..........
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:21 AM
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52. Why wait?
Lieberman is already the poster boy for the fascist branch of the GOP.

Kick the bastard out now!
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:24 AM
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54. That's my first thought, too.
He's been on the dark side since forever now. Just a hint of his plan should inspire a good kick out the door.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:37 AM
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58. It's about time
That's all. About time.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:44 AM
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59. BUH BYE!
Rape Gurney Joe, we hardly knew ye.

Don't let the door hit your sorry ass on the way out.

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:47 AM
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61. Dems Will Cave
just watch.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:48 AM
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62. They should've kicked him out a long time ago.
He can call himself whatever he wants, but the reality is he's a Republican.

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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:55 AM
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63. MAY??????? MAY???????????
M A Y ????
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:03 AM
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64. First, lock him in a room for a few minutes with Jesse "The Blade" Jackson.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:00 PM
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91. Jackson wouldn't be interested...
Lieberman doesn't possess that which Jesse has spoken of cutting off!
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:08 AM
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65. I read that this morning and immediately said to myself,
"Well, what took them so long?"
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:09 AM
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66. "May" ??? How 'bout WILL?
We really need party leaders who will get some buttkickin' going on ... the American voters are waiting for - and will gladly embrace - it.

Sigh.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 11:58 AM
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90. "May" - because it's never-gonna-happen.
This is just more hot air to make us think the Democrat leadership gives a shit, but they don't.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:14 AM
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67. Lieberman has been bad for the Democrats since the Clinton Administration
He's the reason Gore isn't President right now. What a freaking JERK. What a pious, sour-pussed, whiny JERK.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:18 AM
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68. Yes Please! nt
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:37 AM
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69. Can Pelosi be next?
it is way way overdue for LIEberman. Since we will be taking a firm majority of all branches in the election, it is time to take out the trash from inside the 'big tent'. Either you play by the rules or you're kicked out. No more compromise, no more tolerance for enemy collaborators.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:46 AM
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70. K & R!
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:52 AM
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71. Keep the source in mind, everybody.
Robert Novak is about as reliable as John McCain's memory.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:02 AM
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72. I believe it when I see it
I'm series.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:03 AM
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73. Or maybe just a sternly worded letter....
(sighs)
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The Liberal Thinker Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:18 AM
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74. Wow, could you imagine that...
Then again, looking at the past year...
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:24 AM
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75. Does Conneticut have a recall provision in their election code?
That is the most preferable solution. Have the people that put Sore Loser Man back in the Senate take him out. If Connecticut does not have such a provision is it possible for this provision to be put in?

mike kohr
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The Liberal Thinker Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 11:44 AM
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89. Unfortunately, I don't believe they do.
But it could be put in. Is there the will or resources to do so? Probably not...
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:05 PM
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94. The people of Corrupticutt made their choice
A lot of Rethugs, independants and DINO's buy right in to his act. He thought HE was the story in '06 with his disappointing, but hardly surprising rise from the dead.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:24 AM
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:07 PM
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96. I can't believe I'm defending this twerp...
But he is NOT as bad as Bush. I can make a pretty good guess as to what it would be like having him at the helm, because we had someone very like him (Blair) for ten fucking years. It was bad. I would NEVER recommend it. But still not as bad as Bush or Cheney.

And he isn't Israeli; and calling one's political enemies 'not American' or 'not citizens of their country' is a very right-wing thing to do IMO. That's what Republicans have done, from McCarthy to those who have carried out the whispering campaigns about Obama's middle name and his birth certificate. Xenophobia is for right-wingers, not left-wingers.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:19 PM
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159. You are not defending him.
You are actually taking a stance against bigotry and rank ignorance. You are taking the stance of a true liberal and not lowering yourself to attack an enemy because of ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender, sex, or religion.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:52 PM
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109. Unfortunately,most of the dems have abandoned the party...
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:33 AM
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78. Liars. He lost the democratic midterm primary in his state and he ran as independent.
He should NOT have been considered a democrat after that election travesty. The reason he holds his seat now is that the democratic party colluded with him to keep him in.

Why did the democratic party allow the candidate that the PEOPLE CHOSE to be usurped by this lying pos? IMO the democratic party caved two year ago in negating the peoples choice. Now they have a snake in the grass to deal with.

They are liars. He should have been removed from the party during the 2006 midterms as soon as he declared that he was running independent.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:45 AM
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82. "may".... lol
he should have been booted long ago. What dirt does this piece of crap have on the dem leadership, or are they in cahoots?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 11:00 AM
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83. Say good bye to Traitor Joe
and good riddance to bad rubbish
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 11:28 AM
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86. He was a terrible choice for Gore's VP
What on earth made Gore choose him?
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:03 PM
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93. The chance to win Florida
Which by all rights, he did.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:06 PM
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95. He is a traitor! nt
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:14 PM
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98. We have kissed his ass for the last time....now toss him overboard.
This scum-sucking chicken-hawk traitor needs a good boot in the ass on the way out the door. What a pig. It will be a clear sign that the Democrats are FINISHED with such scum. Then...WE NEED TO WEED OUT OUR OWN RANKS!!
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:17 PM
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99. may?
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:46 PM
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101. Why wait ?
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:16 PM
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105. McCain's side kick is out of the question.
Edited on Sun Jul-13-08 01:20 PM by windoe
...................:wtf:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:23 PM
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106. Lieberman will be McBush's VP. (kill two birds with one stone)
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:43 PM
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107. If he leaves the Dem Caucus doesn't that hand the Senate to the Reps?
So if he is kicked out in Sept, does that not then give the Repubs almost 4 months in control of the Senate? Time to create mischief with the help of the administration as it goes out the door?
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:49 PM
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108. Political ploy - this does nothing, really, satifies a few lefties-but does not stop the war or FISA
or any of the neo-con plans - just LOOKS like they are doing something...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 02:51 PM
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Herman74 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:01 PM
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115. From Democratic Party Vice Presidential Candidate to Expulsion...
Edited on Sun Jul-13-08 03:01 PM by Herman74
in around eight years. Wow.
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MrBlueSky Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:01 PM
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116. I don't think we should be talking like this... yet...
If we anger LIEberman now, he might decide to caucus with the Republicans... creating a 50-50 split in the Senate... so, with VP Cheney's deciding vote, the chamber will go to (new) Majority Leader McConnell... and back to Republican control.

Let's save this until AFTER the election.

Please wait to release this hatred.

:banghead:

:hippie:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:14 PM
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117. I hold this comment a bit suspect - geez Robert Novak made it
Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to kicking out Lieberman ONLY if there is not a chance we'll lose our Judiciary committee. But besides that this is Robert Novak and to me I question the motives as more of stirring up trouble than presenting facts.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:37 PM
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118. Suppose the Senate ends up exactly 60-40 Dem with him?
Kicking him out then would leave it 59-41, giving the repukes the ability to sustain a filibuster.
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bow-tie Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:51 PM
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120. He must really
love his stinking Israel.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:16 PM
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158. Any proof?
Though, I doubt you have any and you are rabidly anti-Israel, it would be so interesting for just one you haters of Israel to post so fucking truth.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:45 PM
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:46 PM
Original message
So Republicans are somehow the Israeli party?
And when have ANY American lives been spent to protect Israel???? Money yes; but no lives.

'Eliminate Israel and our middle east problems will disappear'. ELIMINATE - do you mean that literally? Sorry but I don't want to see ANY country eliminated. I don't like hateful anti-Iranian rhetoric and I don't like hateful anti-Israel rhetoric.

And in any case: do you really think that Israel is the main source of all our Middle Eastern problems? You don't think that our (US and UK) pre-emptively invading Iraq and messing it up like mad, for oil, Halliburton and imperialist nuttery, MIGHT have something to do with the fact that not all Middle Easterners are our greatest fans? Plus the fact that the Middle East has plenty of long-term problems and conflicts of its own, not all of which by any means are linked to Israel.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:27 PM
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165. So no proof?
I figured as much. you did nothing but spout the same anecdotal bullshit your type likes to swear is "truth2power."

How is that a "liberal," assuming you are supports genocide/ethic cleansing/destruction of a sovereign nation? Baffles the mind.

"How is it that Israel gets more foreign aide that all the countries in the world combined?" BWAHAHAHAHAHA! :rofl: Do try to get some facts before responding again.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:39 PM
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162. Correction: He must really
love his stinking Republicans!
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:57 PM
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123. He left a long time ago.
Joe is a schmoe! He is a war mongering liar. :dem:
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penndragon69 Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 04:26 PM
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124. LiberScum
should have been kicked out of everything a long time ago.
He is nothing but a ReThugnican boot licker and a closet
Jack booted Fascist!

To hell with liberscum and his Israeli buddies.

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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 04:38 PM
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125. Cool!
Good riddance to bad garbage! :evilgrin:
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kmac3 Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 04:46 PM
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126. Move cautiously . . . .
I do believe just about all Democrats feel the same about Lieberman but we must not "cut off our nose to spite our face!" Let's keep our cool until November. If all is successful we won't have to rely on Independents votes, we'll gain enough Democrats to carry filibusters and/or clotures. At that time we can take Lieberman's leaderships in committee away. He'll end up unwanted by both parties. I can look forward to that with a big smile on my face. ;)
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 04:55 PM
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127. With some minor changes, this could be great
say, take out the "may", and then cut everything after "lieberman". Then, as they say, "make it so."
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:12 PM
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128. We can't kick him out--he isn't in to begin with
He is no longer a Democrat, and an independent can address whichever party he wants.
The thing he would not appreciate is getting stripped of his committee chairmanship,
but after his overt support of McCain over Obama, you can't tell me he isn't expecting
this. So he figures at this point he has nothing to lose.

He's probably right, too. Friends, committee chairmanship, self-respect, I'd say he's
looking at a total loss right about now. Committee chairmanship and self-respect are
pretty much irretrievable, so my hunch is he's looking for some new friends.
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radonc Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:21 PM
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130. It's about D Time!
Speak at the convention,
We want your resignation.
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:23 PM
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131. Good, they should have when he supported the Republican candidate.
Joe Leiberman sucks monkey balls.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:24 PM
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132. Dump him in October ... just a head of the elections.
Edited on Sun Jul-13-08 05:24 PM by JoePhilly
Then remove all his committee positions

(edit: spelling)
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:45 PM
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134. May???
They 'MAY".


uuuuughhhhhhhhh

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:39 PM
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138. I 90th that motion
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 07:55 PM
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140. As they should.... n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:50 PM
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141. I bet a star for a DUer that all they do is write him a sternly-worded letter.
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:54 PM
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142. The "last straw" ...
...problem being, the camel keeps getting stronger. Increasing the probability that there's always room for one more - straw.

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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:06 PM
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143. GTFO!!!!
yesterday, no, before that, my lipstick is already stained and washed off where I kissed you goodbye..yes sir, GTFO!
No hurt greater, than a traitor.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:13 PM
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144. Sayonara, Joe! Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out!
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:20 PM
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145. Please do it, Joe! Speak to them!
Go on ahead. Do a Zell! When you do, announce to the World you really are a Republican! What a gift this would be for the Democrats to boot you from the party!


John



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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:44 PM
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148. Good!
It needed to happen a long time ago. He's already got that (I) by his name.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:52 PM
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149. Sorry, but what happens to Lieberman is sooooo far down the list. Jail for Rove, Cheney, Rummy,
King George of Bush, Alberto the torturer, half the justice department.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:47 PM
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164. agree on that....
and put Benedict Arnold Blair on the list! There are a lot of people who could do with a trip to the Hague.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:22 PM
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167. Pleeease don't tease me with the Hague. nm
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:17 PM
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150. Could we also just plain kick him?
Hard.

In the 'nads.

Repeatedly.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:25 PM
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168. Love it. Where in Oregon are you from? I was raised in Portland South East. nm
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Ammonium Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:32 PM
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152. This could have been done years ago
If the DNC had put the will and the money behind lemont.

Perhaps they'll support him next time around.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:36 PM
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153. Why didn't they kick him out long ago?
Like they should have?
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:46 PM
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163. You mean he hadn't been kicked out already ?
Didn't this asshole openly support Bush 4 years ago ?
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