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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:33 PM
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McCain pledges more conservative judges
Source: CNN

From Alexander Mooney

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. John McCain moved to shore up his support among conservatives by pledging Tuesday to nominate strict-constructionist judges to the federal bench. "It will fall to the next president to nominate hundreds of qualified men and women to the federal courts, and the choices we make will reach far into the future," the presumptive Republican presidential nominee said during a speech at Wake Forest University in North Carolina....

Many conservative members are suspicious of McCain on the issue of judges because of his involvement in 2006 in the so-called Senate "gang of 14."

That bipartisan group of senators sought to reach a consensus on President Bush's judicial appointees, blocking some of the president's most conservative nominations while promising to confirm others. The group formed after the then-Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist threatened to remove the ability to filibuster judicial nominations after Democratic senators blocked a number of Bush nominees.

McCain also directly criticized Obama for not voting to confirm Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, saying the Illinois senator's justification of that decision sounded like it was written by an "activist judge."...

In response to McCain's speech, Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said the Arizona senator has a "radical, right wing judicial philosophy." "It's clear he's the wrong choice to safeguard that future," Dean also said. "No matter how far they have gone to restrict our fundamental rights or their clear records of gutting the reforms John McCain claims to care about, he has put loyalty to his party and a radical agenda ahead of the American people."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/06/mccain.judges/index.html
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:35 PM
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1. More conservative, huh? He'll have to recruit them from the Taliban, then.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:36 PM
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2. Good! Let him keep proclaiming this, loudly
Maybe finally those turncoat dems who say they will vote for him if their candidate doesn't get the nom, will sit up and take notice of what is really at stake?
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:36 PM
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3. If that doesn't help get out the vote for Dems we may as well give up.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:39 PM
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4. As if I needed another reason to not vote for him nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:40 PM
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5. Are there any folks left to nominate?
McSame is going to have to wait for some of them to graduate law school, the federal bench is so packed as it is.
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Indydem Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:50 PM
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6. Thus, i will be voting for a pig in a suit if thats who the democrats nominate n/t
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:45 PM
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23. Please
a pig has too much dignity than to become a politian :)
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:53 PM
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7. Forward to the 18th century!
Mandatory powdered wigs for all.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 04:08 PM
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26. We're already there. It's back to the stone age.
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:57 PM
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8. And that right there...
... is the reason I give to people who say it doesn't matter if they vote.
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:02 PM
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10. Nice speech McSame
SeeSawing no principle having Bush double.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:01 PM
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9. Only thing left for the right to eat away at...the Judicial system..
Our country once worked now it doesn't. Thank you, Republicans!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:47 AM
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47. Deleted message
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:03 AM
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50. What...The Fuck.....
Edited on Wed May-07-08 04:04 AM by TheWatcher
Go fuck yourself you worthless, piece of trash bigot.

You are very lucky you have the anonymity of the Internet to protect you.

I can only hope you are stupid enough to waddle into the middle of any African American neighborhood and spew this crap at the top of your lungs.

And may no jury convict those who give you what you deserve.

But then again, you would never DARE utter such words out from behind the safety of your keyboard.

You're far too much of a chickenshit coward for that.

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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:03 PM
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11. Mandatory Forced Childbirth,
and a free pass for all Corporate Corruption! We The People are shit! Yes! We need Judges even more fucking conservative than we already have! :sarcasm:

:nuke:


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:13 PM
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12. Chief Justice Fred Phelps? Associate Justices Ben Stein and Alan Keyes? n/t
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 04:10 PM
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27. C'mon, you have to have a woman (M-ann Coulter) and a Jew (Michael Savage).
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 04:13 PM
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28. Ben Stein is Jewish. n/t
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 04:15 PM
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29. Oops, yeah you're right. But I believe Savage is more "conservative".
:sarcasm:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 04:16 PM
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30. The Savage Weiner is beyond conservative. He's completely mental, I must say. n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:48 PM
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34. Ben Stein is Jewish???!!!
I keed!
I keed!
:)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:04 PM
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40. Well, he WAS Jewish. I just excommunicated him an hour ago. n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:15 PM
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42. Good for you; he's not funny enough to belong
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:47 PM
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33. And George P "the little brown one" Bush
count on it
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:04 PM
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39. Notice the Bush Family still names their kids after Hitler's banker, Prescott Bush?
They must be proud of the guy who tried to stage a coup against President Eisenhower and install a fascist dictatorship in America.

Otherwise, they wouldn't be naming their kids after Prescott Bush.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:14 PM
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13. Exactly why I will vote for the Democratic nominee--no matter how disgusted I am with HRC
Edited on Tue May-06-08 03:14 PM by abq e streeter
which is plenty..... if she's, god forbid, our nominee ( not that I'm all that crazy about Obama either, but do support him since the half dozen better candidates we had were disappeared by the MSM into early oblivion), she may not appoint the kind of real progressives we need ( and then again, I suppose she might) but she sure as hell isn't going to choose the kind of dangerous right wing lunatics that McCain will. If I have to spend the rest of my life trying to wash off the stench of voting for someone I have so little respect left for, I'll STILL do it. As I've said before, there are times when the greater evil is so evil and so dangerous, that refusing to vote for the lesser of two evils ceases to be a moral thing to do. In my opinion, this is one of those times.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:14 PM
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35. If tonight goes poorly for Hillary (Here's hoping it does)...
One of the powers to be should get Obama to agree to nominate Hillary to the SCOTUS when the first opening comes up if she'll call it quits in the primary (which at that point would be her best option anyway). I believe I recall seeing/hearing somewhere that she has an interest in serving on the SCOTUS, but I may be wrong on that one.
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anokaflash Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:20 PM
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14. Wrong Term
Don't they mean DE-constructionists. I mean, if you were truly a Constructionist, than the 2nd amendment CLEARLY means militias not individuals. If these judges were TRUE constructionists, they would be force to go against a key base of the Right Wing and the NRA. I am not so sure that would ever happen. Hell, even Scalia states he's "not a strict constructionist and no-one ought to be,"

McCain is talk buzz and spin and I'm not so sure HE even knows what he is saying.

Flash
Centrisity
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:26 PM
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15. McCain castigates Obama on judges
Source: ap

WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. - Republican John McCain is castigating Democrat Barack Obama for voting against John Roberts as Supreme Court chief justice.

McCain offered an olive branch to the Christian right in a speech about the kind of judges he would nominate planned for Tuesday at Wake Forest University. The far right has been deeply suspicious of McCain, the expected GOP presidential nominee, because he has clashed with its leaders and worked against them on issues like campaign finance reform.

McCain promised to appoint judges who, in the mold of Roberts and Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, are likely to limit the reach of the Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion.

"They would serve as the model for my own nominees if that responsibility falls to me," McCain said in his prepared speech.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/05/06/2008-05-06_mccain_castigates_obama_on_judges.html
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:26 PM
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16. This is why our nation needs President Obama!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:26 PM
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17. If ever there was an opportunity to show a contrast between Republicans and the rational world
this would be it....
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:26 PM
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18. God help us all if we don't rally around whoever the eventual nominee is.
Come November, I'm voting for Obama, Clinton, or Mike Gravel. Anyone but Insane McCain.
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ToughLuck Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:05 PM
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41. I don't support Hillary, but the SCOTUS is WHY I would vote for her if she won nomination
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:26 PM
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19. Just roll out a laundry list of the disasters this court has wrought on
consumers, the poor, the environment, privacy, the bill of rights, etc. Another campaign ad for President Obama.

Thanks, Senator McSame.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:32 PM
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45. McCain is trying to get the religious right vote
I think Obama should make it the middle class economy judges. We need judges that make decisions that are best for the country as a whole rather than best for the corporations who are outsourcing our jobs.

Dems should make judges a pocketbook issue, not a religious issue. Pocketbook trumps religion in times like these, I think.
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petepillow Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:42 PM
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20. *Shudder* n/t
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:44 PM
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21. Shouldn't the idiot be running to the middle by now?
WTF?

Oh, well, good for US!

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wmbrew0206 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 04:27 PM
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31. If you read the first part of the speech, McSame tried
McSame talked about how Obama voted against Roberts even though other Democratic members of the Senate for for him. McCain also borught up his roll in the "Gang of 14".

Personally I think that Obama showed more principal in voting against Roberts (the hard thing to do) than just going with the flow and voting for him.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:44 PM
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22. "strict-constructionist judges"
so, do we go back to counting african americans as 3/5 a person? Get rid of the voting righs act? Let's not stop there, how about getting rid of that pesky womens' right to vote thing? I truly hate these people.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 04:06 PM
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24. Oh Gawd...Supreme Court Associate Justice Roy Moore
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CANDO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 04:08 PM
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25. Why do we allow them to own this argument?
CNN just did a piece on McCain's toeing the line on Judges. They went through the whole activist shit and strict constructionist bullshit and nary a counter from the Dems except something sounding fairly lame from Obama's campaign.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:22 PM
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32. screw that mkane...just install the star chamber!!!
for kriest's sake...what is wrong with this asshole?!?!?!?!?
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bronxiteforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:18 PM
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36. Because Nuns Shouldn't Vote!
With no photo IDs, nuns denied ballots in Indiana primary

By Greg Gordon | McClatchy Newspapers
Posted on Tuesday, May 6, 2008

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3298798
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ToughLuck Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:02 PM
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37. Just what we need another Roberts or Alito..more executive privilege.
Edited on Tue May-06-08 07:02 PM by ToughLuck
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:03 PM
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38. Has Obama or Clinton pledged to nominate progressive judges?
Looking at their politics, I have to ask: Why do we assume that they will nominate progressive judges? (And I mean progressive, not "new liberals" who make Barry Goldwater look like a granola-crunching hippie.)
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:23 PM
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43. Conservative???? You Mean Fascist... you ain't no Conservative, McCain
nor is Rush Limbaugh and the idiots that listen to him.
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darue Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:30 PM
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44. go to hell mccain and the rest of the repug party. you are all so fucking over n/t
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:46 PM
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46. One of the major reasons I'll be voting for the candidate
With the "D" after his or her name, regardless of who it is. Oh, I may need a very large clothespin, but I'll still step into that booth and do it, even if I have to crawl through a hurricane to get there.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:56 AM
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49. I think I will literally have a clothespin on my nose
but I WILL do it too, FloridaJudy
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:28 AM
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48. an I tried to tell peeps the man is nuts....lol...he goes and confirms it...
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