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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:17 PM
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Ex-U.S. Arms Hunter Says No Stockpiles in Iraq
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - David Kay, who stepped down as leader of the U.S. hunt for weapons of mass destruction, said on Friday he does not believe there were any large stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons in Iraq (news - web sites).

"I don't think they existed," Kay told Reuters in a telephone interview. "What everyone was talking about is stockpiles produced after the end of the last (1991) Gulf War (news - web sites) and I don't think there was a large-scale production program in the '90s," he said.
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20040123/ts_nm/iraq_usa_weapons_kay_dc


I've been reading the comments/messages posted to this story. They are blistering!!!!! Dittoheads are virtually invisible.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:19 PM
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1. RATE THIS A 5!!!!
:bounce:
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:20 PM
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2. Rate it a 5!!!
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:50 PM
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15. kick
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:21 PM
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3. Nice timing
right after the SOTU citation. And Cheney's Al Queida - Saddam connection based on discredited classified information...

Throw so much (dis)information out and the people have no diea what to believe.
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:04 PM
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36. And on a friday...
Always on a friday...
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:22 PM
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4. Kay's Getting Out While the Getting's Good
The next guy is going to be forced to claim he "found" something that was obviously planted. Kay wants no part of that mess. That's my guess.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:29 PM
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8. Ding ding ding...
That's what I'm assuming, too...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:34 PM
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10. I think they are setting up Deulfer the new head
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 03:34 PM by underpants
Here is some background on him
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1048894

He has stated publicly that he doubts anything will be found so maybe when nothing is found W&Co. can say he ahd an agenda or a preconceived notion. Then again they might not care as the got their war and the newscasts do start everynight with "Bush still proved to be a liar."
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:24 PM
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5. So how long until they try to discredit him a la Scott Ritter?
Good job Mr. Kay, thanks for coming clean.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:27 PM
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6. How can it be MORE difficult to find something that doesn't exist?
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 03:28 PM by underpants
Kay said he believes most of what is going to be found in the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq has been found and that the hunt will become more difficult once America turns over governing the country to the Iraqis.
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:28 PM
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7. Guess Cheney and Kay need to have a little "talk"...
Sorry, I duped ya...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:35 PM
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12. I think I will start a poll:How many times will David Kay "fall down"?
increments of 5 I think.
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:33 PM
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9. Paging Mr. O'Reilly!!

Time to live up to your word, you "champion of the little guy"....

Say it! Say it, Bill, you neocon-ass-kissing-rich-elitist-sonovabitch!

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:34 PM
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11. Yeah, I'd almost forgotten that. . .
Let's start a massive e-mail campaign :)
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:50 PM
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14. Does anyone have the original quote from O'Reilly?
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 03:51 PM by mac56
I'd love to send the little weasel an e-mail.

Never mind - just found it.

Good Morning America - 3-18-03 -- "And I said on my program, if -- if -- the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again."
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:58 PM
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17. O'Biley will wiggle out of apologizing the same way Bush has...
O'Biley will claim that Kay found significant evidence of weapons of mass destruction programs in Iraq.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:39 PM
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13. Just watch... The Freepers will attack Kay now.
Conservatives are probably scrambling for ways to smear Kay now.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:02 PM
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18. Not a peep about this in Freeperville
Deny deny deny
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:05 PM
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22. Fingers in ears, eyes closed, singing lalalalalala.
Yup, Freepers only see what Bush wants them to see.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:12 PM
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24. Oops - they do have a Kay thread (got to scroll way down to find it)
I won't post it here - but they are in denial.

:)
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:22 PM
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26. Freepers are already implying that Kay is inept...
"It tells us David Kay blew a billion dollars." - Freeper

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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:59 PM
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34. Some of those gun loving pres. ASSHOLE lovers were also...
saying the same about the author of that Army War College report from a couple weeks ago.

They must be all tinman because they don't have brains. Or was that the scarecrow?
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:22 PM
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27. I can guess.
Attack the messenger.
Blame Bill Clinton.
Blame the "liberal media."
etc.
etc.
etc.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:27 PM
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29. All of the above
especially the "Blame Clinton" nonsense.

pa-thetic
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 03:56 PM
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16. They've expanded the story. It needs new ratings.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:02 PM
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19. Also a LINK to a poll on this
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:04 PM
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20. Kay "have found probably 85%..." of the WMDPRAs?
"I think we have found probably 85 percent of what we're going to find," he said. "I think the best evidence is that they did not resume large-scale production and that's what we're really talking about."

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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:20 PM
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25. Just what is 85% of 0?
This statistician wants to know...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:37 PM
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31. Luckily I have a calculator in front of me
it's...let me check the tape....it's 0.00.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 08:48 PM
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35. LOL . . . he's not even on the job yet and the new guy . .
is already reversing himself:
_________

"I think that Mr. Kay and his team have looked very hard. I think the reason that they haven't found them is they're probably not there," Duelfer told NBC television earlier this month.

But after his new job was announced, Duelfer, who will be based in Iraq as CIA special adviser to direct the WMD search, said he was keeping an open mind and his past comments had been made without the benefit of seeing the most current U.S. intelligence reports.

"This was a spectator sport for me," he told reporters on a conference call. "We'll see, I mean we don't know what the answers are. Maybe there still will be weapons. It's a big country. There's a lot of chaos there. It may well be that something turns up. I don't want to prejudge that, that still may happen."
_____________

He'll make a great conservative shill.
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veganwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:05 PM
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21. so when do the war crimes filings start?
war of aggression based on a nonexistant menace. that smacks of poland in 39 if you ask me.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:07 PM
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23. Hey! We can't compare him/them to Hitler
only they can do that to us/our people. Haven't you been paying attention?
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:26 PM
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28. After just finishing the O'Neill book
it's obvious that Kay is getting to spend more time with the family because he refused to tell * what he wanted to hear. That's what happened to O'Neill.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:31 PM
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30. David Kay better get ready to be O'Neiled
Bushbots don't like when an honest assessment slips out.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:54 PM
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32. I guess this is what Kay meant
when he said last summer that he thought people were in for a surprise.

Surprise!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:14 PM
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33. Lol. Surprise!
:party:
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