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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:34 PM
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Paxson Contradicts McCain Campaign on Meetings
Source: Washington Post

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Broadcaster Lowell "Bud" Paxson today contradicted statements from Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign that the senator did not meet with Paxson or his lobbyist before sending two controversial letters to the Federal Communications Commission on Paxson's behalf.

Paxson said he talked with McCain in his Washington office several weeks before the Arizona Republican wrote the letters to the FCC urging a rapid decision on Paxson's quest to acquire a Pittsburgh television station.

Paxson also recalled that his lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, attended the meeting in McCain's office and that Iseman helped arrange the meeting. "Was Vicki there? Probably," Paxson said in an interview with The Washington Post today. "The woman was a professional. She was good. She could get us meetings."

The recollection of the now-retired Paxson conflicted with the account provided by McCain about two letters at the center of a controversy about the senator's ties to Iseman, a partner at the lobbying firm of Alcalde & Fay.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/22/AR2008022202634.html?nav=rss_email/components
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:37 PM
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1. Glad this story is staying alive. With Grandpa's flat denials, and NYT
saying it's all true, it has to keep going.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:54 PM
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2. Bud Paxson lives down here and has a rep as a great guy. His
employees at Pax Communications loved him. He was a little tight with a buck but highly respected in the community. Also, very religious. A lie would not come easily to him at all.
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pdefalla Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:00 PM
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3. I'm really glad McCain is "over it"
Since McCain has very loudly stated that he will no longer be commenting on this issue, I guess that he'll just let the evidence pile up against him now, without trying to answer. Right.......
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:55 PM
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14. After Having A Relationship A With a Serial Liar The Blinky Blinky Thing Just Cracked Me Up
He was blinking like a crack whore. I've seen that blinking, sociopaths do it regularly. Then the arrogance, it always follows the blinky blinky. "I will no longer be commenting on this issue." Oh fuck off John you have been caught red handed. Take your botox pill intoxicated rich girl and just go away. We hate you, you old fucking idiot.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:08 PM
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4. off to "greatest" with you!. . . . . . . . . .n/t
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:39 PM
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5. Can we all say,
Ooooooooooooops!

I was just listening to KO and his report or McLame's spin on the his statements in that depo....which were that McLame says he did not mean that he met with Paxson personally.

Geeeeeeez, either McLame's memory is shot to hell or he is a liar...or both.

I vote "both!" :hi:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:44 PM
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6. Should he stay or should he go?
If he stays he is crippled. McCain has two big cards: security (regardless of the truth he is perceived by people as strong, even though we know he sucks) and the whole "straight talk express"/reform shtick. The latter is neutralized or turned into a disadvantage in light of this and his Keating 5 past. The McCain we see now is not the same threat he was a week ago. On the other hand, he may still be the strongest candidate the rethugs could field. Should we hope he gets replaced by Romney or Huckabee or hope he continues since he is weaker than he otherwise would be?
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:13 PM
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8. I think he should stay.
I can see no better way to sit back and see the Republican Party come apart like an unsprung watch than to have the snake handlers abandon McCain, the dirt-digger operatives cash in on him, the fiscal conservatives choke on him, the anti-corruption crusaders brand him as corrupt, and the pro-corruption neocons brand him as not corrupt enough, while the racists, fascists, jingoists, and misogynists all stand around wondering why all the minorities, liberals, protesters and women aren't dead yet after eight years of der Fuehrer.

I just hope he can hold it together until the late summer nomination.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:43 AM
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16. "...all the minorities, liberals, protesters and women..."
And Teh Gays. Everybody's always forgetting Teh Gays!!!
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:51 PM
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7. K & R
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:19 PM
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9. Hahahahahahahahahahaha
I almost soiled myself. This is too rich. I love the indignant denial followed by the factual smackdown. A Perry Mason moment.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:11 PM
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10. k/r
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:30 PM
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11. "I did not meet with that... man, Bud Paxell!"
McCain's got ethics issues galore. What a treat this presidential election period will be.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:43 PM
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12. I'm lost...
1)Why does it matter whether or not they met before the letters were sent?
2)It says Paxson denies meeting before, then says they meet weeks before. Those seemingly contradict.

Can someone explain this Paxson issue better?
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:54 PM
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13. The incredible shrinking candidate, John McCain


and another war-mongering asshat bites the dust soon...
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SPURGEMAN23 Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:42 AM
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15. Wait, were we not told that this story is good for him?
Where are all the posts about how good this is for McCain? How the timing was good and the NYT was the issue, limbaugh is on his side, rallying the base, blah blah?

That was all BS, of course. The guy is a lobbyist's dream
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:48 AM
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17. So what is it, Grandpa - are you lying or senile? nt
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:39 AM
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18. McCain's attorney Bob Bennett comes up with the all-time most disingenuous statement!
"We understood that he did not speak directly with him . Now it appears he did speak to him. What is the difference?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/22/AR2008022202634.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2008022203188

What is the difference? What is the difference between did not and did? Are you pulling my leg, man? Are you stupid, or just a congenital liar like most GOPers?
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:17 AM
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19. Ha Ha n/t


Tut-tut
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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20. kick
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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21. Former Paxson Exec Denies McCain Meeting
Source: AP

A former Paxson Communications president said Saturday he never met with John McCain about the Arizona senator writing letters to the Federal Communications Commission regarding the regulatory delay of a Pittsburgh TV station sale.
....
But Paxson told The Washington Post in a story published Saturday that he and "probably" Iseman met with McCain on the matter several weeks before the senator sent the letters.

Goodman, who left the company a year and a half ago, took issue with that account in a telephone interview from West Palm Beach, Fla.

"I never met with or discussed this with Senator McCain," Goodman said. "I don't recall Bud meeting with McCain. It would be extremely rare that there would be a meeting that I didn't attend, and I can tell you that I didn't have a meeting with McCain on this issue."

Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jN4XqApKN78eKFB8NUMHKwVDtR7gD8V09JM83
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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22. I'll believe McCain's deposition testimony. n/t
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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23. Either way
McCain either lied to the press or committed perjury. Choose, big boy.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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24. Goodman isn't Paxson, right?. Just because he "doesn't remember"
Bud meeting with McCain doesn't mean he didn't..
The article is a mis-direct.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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26. I'd bet a check on newsmeat of Goodman's giving
might give a good clue to his side of the story. If you know what I mean.
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idovoodoo Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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25. So what does "probably" Iseman mean?
That's pretty weasly no matter what he actually meant (or meant to obfuscate.)

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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27. It is
It reads like "her or some other blonde" or something to that effect, doesn't it?
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idovoodoo Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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30. Yeah! I mean, how goofy is it that somebody would recall a "meeting" but not
which floozy (oh god I will get nailed for that one) was there...
:D
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devilindisguise Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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31. It all depends on the size
Some meetings are big, lots of people. Some are small and secluded behind closed doors, maybe on a yacht. I think it would be much easier to remember the "small and secluded". I wonder if this will pass. Jay Leno had so many good jokes about McCain last night I almost laughed myself to death. I especially like all the jokes about "What? A republican making love to a woman."
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idovoodoo Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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32. Yes, that's very true. I understand that, I was at a very large meeting some years ago
in Woodstock, New York and I'm not at all sure who all I talked with. I barely remember coming home from it. :D

Something tells me McCain's encounters were a bit less convoluted.
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devilindisguise Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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33. It's very dlifficult to remembrere when one is boozing it up
like I have at big functions. Heck, I can't remember who the woman in the red slinky gown was at the last large function I attended. Or anyting else. But getting on down to the "one on one" type of parties, it's much easier to remember.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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28. so he lied under oath. that's pretty serious.
Bill






Bill Clinton got in big trouble for that seems to me. but the he was a democrat.



















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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 AM
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29. Can I get any law I want passed by giving someone $20,000. Damn, what a country?
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 09:08 PM by IsItJustMe
Former Paxson exec denies McCain meeting
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press


The senator wrote the letters after he received more than $20,000 in contributions from the company's executives and lobbyists. Paxson also lent McCain his company's jet at least four times during 1999 for campaign travel....



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080223/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyists
__________________________________________________________________

Guess not. Have to offer free jet rides also.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:22 AM
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34. YES you CAN!!! :D
Isn't that cooooool?

:sarcasm:
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