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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:23 PM
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Court may move against White House
Source: AP

WASHINGTON - A U.S. magistrate indicated Wednesday that a federal court may order the Bush administration to preserve copies of all White House e-mails, a move that a government lawyer argued strongly against.

U.S. Magistrate John M. Facciola asked Justice Department attorneys and a private group for suggested wording on a proposed court order in a lawsuit stemming from problems with the White House e-mail system.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sued the Executive Office of the President last month, demanding that any e-mails lost from White House computer servers be restored from computer backup tapes.

In the weeks since the group filed its lawsuit, the private organization says it has been unable to get assurances from the government that all White House backup tapes containing copies of e-mails will be preserved. The group, known by the acronym CREW, also says it has been unable to get assurances that the White House is using the backup tapes only once.

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Ultimately, the e-mails will be important years from now to historians delving into the inner workings of the Bush administration.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071017/ap_on_go_pr_wh/white_house_e_mail_1
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CTuttle Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:42 PM
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1. CREW Rocks!!!
It'll be sweet to see some Judicial prodding, the Legislative can't seem to get it done...!!!
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:50 PM
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2. DUH-bya can't write an email or use the internets....
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 09:50 PM by madeline_con
so that leaves him out of the loop. :eyes:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 10:33 PM
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5. so he and craig have something in common.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:11 PM
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6. Interestingly enough, Cheney does not ever use email at all. He talks live.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:50 PM
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7. And even so,
he needs a man-sized safe for the stuff that absolutely, positively, has to still be there overnight.

Interesting.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:39 AM
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17. Just like the serial, felon Mafia murderer he IS.
A quote from Good Fellas:

"Pauly never talked onthe phone. NEVER. He didn't want anyone to hear what was being said to him and he didn't want anyone to hear what he was saying."

They are murderous felonious monsters, these Bushies, among the very worst that humanity has to offer.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 10:13 PM
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3. Cooler heads prevailing? Gawd, I hope so! nt
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 10:26 PM
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4. My hopes run more along the lines of being helpful to prosecutors. n/t
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 10:27 PM by hootinholler
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:52 PM
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8. K&R n/t
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:55 PM
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9. I'll believe it when I see it...
...they'll find some way to get out of this, and it'll probably involve violence.:hide:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 02:23 AM
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10. Bushie criminals NEVER comply with the law, not if they can help it
Here they will do everything they can to resist, and then not turn over the important stuff anyway?

Who is going to make them do otherwise?

(cue crickets chirping)
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 04:44 AM
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12. IMPEACHMENT is the only law
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 04:44 AM by StClone
They can not disobey. A Full Houses vote for removal from office is the ONLY recourse. Cheney's Lawyer Addington is an anti-Constitionalist who uses twists logic to bypass legal Congressional Restrains on the President.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:34 AM
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15. I suspect it would never be allowed to get that far, and the Dems KNOW it
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 09:36 AM by tom_paine
I think that, the closer the Congress got to actually impeaching Bush or Cheney, the greater the risk that a "terrorist" attack will happen in the middle of it.

Yeah, a "terrorist" attack, just like the Reichstag Fire was.
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flying_wahini Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 04:02 AM
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11. those emails were destroyed long ago.....
too little - too late - as usual.

"unable to get assurances from the White House"....

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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:08 AM
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13. Screw the back-up tapes
Take and seal the hard drives....every stinking one of them!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:22 AM
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14. the key word here is "may". I suspect a backroom deal to keep this
out of the press.

vanishing into the ether as we speak.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:37 AM
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16. I agree, what the fuck is this magistrate waiting on? ISSUE THE FUCKING ORDER ALREADY.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:56 AM
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20. He's leaving the door open for a fat bribe. nt
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:10 PM
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28. We may decide, at some time, to consider the possibility of perhaps making a tentative decision...
Sickening, is what it is.
Just DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO something!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:42 AM
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18. To paraphrase John Turturro's character in Rounders,
and I may get a blow job from Norah Jones.

:eyes:

Neither of these is ever going to happen.
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:47 AM
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19. If these tapes still exist and actually catalog all the emails I will eat my shoe. nt
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:50 AM
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21. WTF????!!
...a move that a government lawyer argued strongly against.

What twilight zone have we entered where a lawyer can "strongly" argue against transparency in the White House? Unbelievable.
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everydayis911 Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:51 PM
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22. National Security
National Security, National Security, National Security, National Security, National Security.........
Bush's baby blanket.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 03:24 PM
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23. Thanks for the thread, sabra
Kicked and recommended.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 04:45 PM
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24. Emails to show they tried to FIRE THE ENTIRE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
predicts Naomi Wolf in drop what you're doing, must-watch video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 04:50 PM
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25. Gee, I'm smelling a "whoops! We lost them, sorry!" coming
What do you think the odds are of the things ever seeing the light of day?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 04:51 PM
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26. CREW has more impact than our Congress?
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:07 PM
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27. No good. They're all wiped. Using a def. dept. wiping prog.
Sorry, folks.

Try again.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:33 PM
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29. there's that little word again - "may" which means...
not gonna happen.
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