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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:48 AM
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Rice criticises French plans for Iran overture
BERLIN (AFP) - US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice implicitly criticised French plans to send an envoy to Iran to discuss the situation in Lebanon and the Middle East.

"I think we all need to stay focused on the fact that Iran is in violation of a Security Council resolution until it suspends its enrichment and reprocessing activities," Rice said, while added that each country took its own decisions.

Rice, currently visiting Germany, also noted that Iran had not completely fulfilled its obligations to the International Atomic Energy Agency.

The French foreign ministry on Tuesday confirmed it was discussing plans to send a special envoy to Iran to discuss "regional issues" including Lebanon and Israel's right to exist.

more;http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070118/wl_mideast_afp/usfranceirannuclearpoliticsdiplomacy_070118054832
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:50 AM
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1. Oh, 'Sleeza! That's such a good stance to take!
No talking! It would ruin Georgie's plans and hurt his wittle feelings. :eyes:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:54 AM
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2. No CondiLiar would rather have get *'s war on than have ANYONE
else cook up some diplomacy, God forbid. Especially those pesky French!

Lingering bitterness over Freedom Fries Condi?
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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:09 AM
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3. OH here we go Freedom Fries anyone. The French are very
savvy when it comes to Foreign Diplomacy, I think we as a populace should support their intervention. Remember, the US might not have been a country without the aid of the French, gotta keep reminding the Republics of the that.

Yes, poor Georgie, is going to face a ton of opposition internal/external if he even thinks he's gonna drag Iran into this.

I have been talking up the Iranian issue to anyone that will listen, as a preemptive intervention to the possibility of preemptive or provoked Iranian strike. The general populace needs to be warned, so, they can't baffle 'em with their BS this time, their gonna have to dazzle them with their brilliance, not.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:10 AM
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4. Yeah, we better not engage in DIPLOMACY! That's been shown to NEVER work
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran....

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:27 AM
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5. ok you're the soviet ''expert'' condi --
we didn't ever talk to the soviets?

you're better than the architects of ''detente''?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:28 AM
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12. She is as relevant as a typewriter repairman
Of course we have always talked with our "enemies" to do otherwise would lead to disasterous consequences.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 10:41 AM
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17. If you mean to imply that the architects of detente
were French, I must point out that the French had nothing to do with the strategy. Detente, as it came to be known, was largely the outcome of Henry Kissenger's maneuvering and philosophical outlook.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 11:03 AM
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18. no, i didn't mean to imply the french had anything to do with
american detente -- i am a pretty good student of history.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:52 AM
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6. AP: El-Baradei Concerned Iran Sanctions
El-Baradei Concerned Iran Sanctions

The Associated Press
Thursday, January 18, 2007; 5:16 AM

PARIS -- The head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog expressed concern Thursday that the
international sanctions against Iran could escalate Tehran's standoff with the U.S.
and its European allies.

Mohamed El-Baradei, speaking in Paris, called for a resumption of negotiations with
Iran. Asked about the possibility of France sending an envoy for discussions, he said,
"I would support any effort by any side to engage Iran."

"My worry right now is that each side is sticking to its guns," said El-Baradei, head
of the International Atomic Energy Agency. "We need someone to reach out."

-snip-

France is considering sending an envoy to Tehran for discussions that would focus on
Middle East peace, Lebanon and other regional issues rather than the specific question
of Iran's nuclear program.

But officials at the presidential palace and the foreign ministry insist no decision
has been made and Iran must first show willingness to negotiate.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/18/AR2007011800246.html
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:58 AM
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7. Iran angered by new UN chief's nuclear talk
TEHRAN (AFP) - Iran has condemned remarks by the UN's new Secretary General Ban Ki-moon that its nuclear ambitions posed a threat to international security.

"The remarks by Ban Ki-moon are contrary to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which emphasises the right of nations to use nuclear energy for peaceful ends," said foreign ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini on Thursday.

"We think that the positions and attitudes of the secretary general should be in line with the United Nations charter," Hosseini added, according to the ISNA news agency.

Hosseini told the new secretary general, who succeeded Kofi Annan at the start of this year, to concentrate instead on the "serious dangers and threats to world peace represented by Israel's nuclear arsenal".


more:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070118/wl_mideast_afp/irannuclearpoliticsun_070118104829

It's like listening to dualing banjos. :crazy:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:45 AM
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14. Finally, signs that the adults are getting involved. Leeza, plz sit down
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:11 AM
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8. The Bush Bullshit Factory has confused...
things so much that I have no idea who to believe-- are the Iranians really building a bomb, and if they are what can anyone really do to stop them from building and, worse, using it?

It kinda boils down to three options-- talk, war, or do nothing and hope for the best.

Me? I go for talk, but there's no one in the Administration capable of it, even if they wanted to.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:37 AM
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9. SInce when does Condi and her fellow goons
own this fugging planet.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:42 AM
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10. I don't get their reluctance to talk. Why are bombs better than talking?? nt
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:34 AM
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13. Because bombs allow them to force 30 year oil contracts with 75% profit
for their buddies and no legal recourse to the locals onto the countries they bomb.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:11 AM
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11. They say that anyone who doesn't like their plan should offer a better one.
Except when someone actually does, they don't want to hear it.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 10:24 AM
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15. i guess she doesn't want anyone interfering with their war plans?
funny how they like to dictate to everyone else but won't listen to anyone at the same time.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 10:29 AM
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16. We're busy committing national suicide here, France!
Now, you're either with us or against us. And what did talking ever accomplish? Did it ever shock someone? Did it ever awe them? And it surely doesn't make for the grand spectacle so beloved by my Fox guys. Talk! Pfffffft!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 02:05 PM
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19. Criticised, blame and lie are Doctor Rice's strong suit.
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