Iraqi Army Plans for Wider Role in Security of Baghdad(Iraq's Nat. Security advisor wants US out)

[maddezmom]

WASHINGTON, Dec. 12 — Iraq has presented the United States with a plan that calls for Iraqi troops to assume primary responsibility for security in Baghdad early next year. American troops would be shifted to the periphery of the capital.

Mowaffak al-Rubaie, Iraq’s national security adviser, said in an interview that the plan was presented during the meeting in Amman, Jordan, on Nov. 30 between President Bush and Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki.

“I think it is extremely important they reduce their visibility and they reduce their presence,” Mr. Rubaie said of the American troops in Baghdad. “They should be in the suburbs within greater Baghdad.”

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The plan has seriously alarmed Sunni politicians, who said they could not imagine that the Americans would turn security over to a government that they see as deeply sectarian.

“It will be a disaster,” said Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, a Sunni who is speaker of Parliament. “I think the Americans are not so stupid as to do that. The city would be a safe place for the militias.”

more:http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/13/world/middleeast/13troops.html?ei=5094&en=60ce469247510aa7&hp=&ex=1166072400&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print

Iraqis intend to assume primary responsibility for security in Baghdad soon
BAGHDAD (CNN) -- The Iraq government has come up with a plan for Baghdad that would put its security forces in the lead and place coalition forces at the edges of the war-torn capital, a government official told CNN.

National Security Adviser Mowaffak al-Rubaie, who discussed the plan in a New York Times interview, then elaborated on it with CNN Wednesday.

"The idea is for the Iraqi security forces in Baghdad to assume more responsibilities," al-Rubaie told CNN on Wednesday.

"We need to be able to be given a chance of proving ourselves. Even if we make a mistake, this is going to be an Iraqi mistake and we will learn from our mistakes."

Under the plan, coalition forces would still be very much involved.

more: http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/13/wednesday/index.html

[rodeodance]

1. until Maliki says to get out. we will stay. But now Saudi Arabia wants us

to stay also. What a MESS

[GreenZoneLT]

2. We tried that in May. Was a freakin' disaster.

Rubaie and Maliki and Sadr, I'm afraid, want us to get the heck out of the way so they can get down to some good ol' ethnic cleansing. Certainly Sadr does.

[qwlauren35]

6. Catch-22...

So many of us in America want to pull out, but we acknowledge that doing so will cause even more of a bloodbath than we have now.

This is so NO-WIN. Will we at least learn from this and not do it again? Or are we just going to have a Vietnam/Iraq situation every 30 years or so, when the people who were afraid to be drafted become too old to care and sophisticated enough to make money from it.

[HuffleClaw]

3. yup, just as predicted

they'll leave the iraqis to their fate and call it a VICTORY

[maddezmom]

4. Only problem is they will still be there

No one will be coming home anytime soon. Just another farce.

[Javaman]

5. This indecision is bugging me...

Darling you gotta let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
If you say that you are mine
I'll be here 'til the end of time
So you got to let know
Should I stay or should I go?

Always tease tease tease
You're happy when I'm on my knees
One day is fine, next is black
So if you want me off your back
Well come on and let me know
Should I Stay or should I go?

Should I stay or should I go now?
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go there will be trouble
An' if I stay it will be double
So come on and let me know

This indecision's bugging me
If you don't want me, set me free
Exactly who'm I'm supposed to be
Don't you know which clothes even fit me?
Come on and let me know
Should I cool it or should I blow?

Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go there will be trouble
And if I stay it will be double
So you gotta let me know
Should I stay or should I go?